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[Corum59]

My new lights are installed in the 3x3 tent.

The first set-up with the deep red just wasn't going to work properly. They were shielding some of the reflected light from the main light. So I ended up using the hard garden wire and tying it down to the top of the light. Being longer than the main light, I only lost a few diodes at the back of a tent by the frame of the main light blocking them.

Then there's the UVA.

In reality, there is just no place to put it for it to be that effective. Absolutely no way to run the lights parallel with the main light's bars! No way to run 'em on the side of the light in parallel with the main light's bars.
So I zip tied them to the front and back of the frame of the main light. I really don't think that's going to be very effective, but there will be some light.

At least everything worked extremely well with my AC Infinity controller! The adapter worked perfectly fine with the new main light and the smart plugs for the supplemental light worked perfect. It probably took no more than two minutes to rename the outlets and program all the lights.

There's really no use in informing our Mars Hydro Representative. I think everybody here understands why. But I will send Mars hydro email and hopefully I can explain the situation so they can understand.

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sitting here trying to follow the wiring going on there, I am just happy its not me that has to sort it. I was expecting more thought about connections and sizes from mars supplimental lights. Those green plastic driver holders look very flimsy in the pics?

 

[WildBill]

sitting here trying to follow the wiring going on there, I am just happy its not me that has to sort it. I was expecting more thought about connections and sizes from mars supplimental lights. Those green plastic driver holders look very flimsy in the pics?

It looks complicated, but it's not. They just give you a lot of wiring to add the flexibility to the lights in how they are installed.
If I had known prior to purchase that this was going to be a 'make do' installation of a supplemental light with this main light, I probably would have bought the FC 4800-EVO. Now it would barely fit, but it would definitely have one hell of a ppfd map! And there probably would have been no 'make do' with the installation of the supplemental light.

I really do not like the driver mounts. Extremely poorly designed and yes they are flimsy.
And they used the exact same mounting design throughout the bar style lights!

And there are no provisions or options for remote mounting of the driver outside the tent.

I've been pretty happy with my Mars lights up until this point. It really just seems to me that they have really starting to pinch pennies on the designs of their lights.

I'm pretty sure it's going to grow some good cannabis though. It definitely seems to be pretty intense, so I'm hopeful. I'm going to kind of make an informational ppfd map to see how even it is in this size of before I put the plants in. Nothing scientific or with any exact measurements, just an over all impression.

It's done now. It's the best situation it could be, given what I have.

 

[WildBill]

Here's what I ended up with!

Just a quick check at the installed height showed that there is less than 60 PPFD difference between the hottest spot in the center and the sides. I can definitely deal with that!

Kinda makes up for the BS I had to go through to get this set up!

I find it pretty funny that the height I had the light set to install all this stuff, is the exact height I needed to have the plants!
This is with the light at 100 percent and the deep red turned on. I have the UVA scheduled to run 3 hours mid-light cycle, 10:30 AM to 1:30PM

Both girls are right at 800 PPFD. And that's without raising the little girl! That just shows you how much the volunteer has grown!
Water is warming to mix up their Witches brew of the day. I think I'm gonna give Asian haze a regular dose of Blue Gold flower with a dose of CowCal And 1/4 teaspoon of Rootwise BioPhos. The volunteer pot will get the same but with Build a bloom and coconut water in addition.
I'm just gonna leave them at the temperature I have set currently. They are not going to be in that tent for too much longer, probably another ten days to two weeks That's when I start my all Autoseeds grow and these two pots will go into the little 2.3X2.3 tent. I'll be setting up the small tent in my walk in closet. I really don't think I can fit both lights into that small of a tent, but I will try. If I can only use one it will be the 200 Watt HLG. I will definitely put the Asian Haze tester in the position to get the best light. With the oldest girl very close to chop, I think the tester will finish out in time that I can concentrate the light on the biggest volunteer girl once the tester is chopped. I think there will be time to finish her out and have decent bud formation.

Asian Haze tester Is looking very pretty! I think I'll let her dry back a little bit too long from the last feeding, again, but no harm was done . I think she's stacking quite nicely. The only larf I have are a couple of places down at the very bottom. All we rest on her are firming up very nicely ! I have not trained or defoliated any on this girl.

Crazy Asian Haze Volunteer pot is doing excellent! The youngest continues her rage!

The oldest one is getting closer and her buds are definitely getting hard! She might get a scoping next week.

 

[WildBill]

Girls just continue to grow upwards!
I've lowered the temperature and the tent. I want to make sure I can keep the Terps a bit better on the oldest volunteer girl and the Asian Haze tester.
I guess I really do need to raise the light. Both Tall girls continue to grow into the light. At the time of these pictures just before lights out, the tallest volunteer was seeing just below 950ppfd and this morning within the first hour of the light cycle it's now just under 1000ppfd. Asian Haze is seeing just over 1100ppfd.

Asian Haze Is beginning her little phase of foxtailing at the end. I think this means roughly 10 days to two weeks left. I think the amount that she does is perfectly acceptable and they really do at the end form that classical sativa type bud, long and open.

Here's a bit of flash!
Asian Haze

The volunteer pot.............. Oldest girl continues to stink up the place!

 

[Jean-O]

I am very disappointed in my latest purchase from Mars Hydro.

The FC3000 EVO Seems to be OK as far as the light output goes, but I have not put a meter to it. The design of mounting the driver to the light is pretty sketchy at best.
And it's not going to be held by two ratchets, 1 wire loop connecting Each end, It's gonna tilt! So not really that big of a deal but, 4 ratchets to hang it. And with the supplemental lighting attached to it it definitely would tilt out of kelter.

But what is absolutely ridiculous and extremely poorly thought out, is the supplemental lighting and how it is hung with this light. I imagine it MAY work OK with the larger light, FC 4800-EVO, to use with this size of supplemental lighting.

The supplemental lighting should hang between the rows of the light bars. Kinda hard to do when the Supplemental lights are longer than the main light!

Even if they were shorter, you're not gonna fit 3 bars of the supplemental light between two bars of the main light! I've only got the far red and UVA bars. Even if they were shorter you could not use them with the supplied mounting. The mounting points to hang the main light and the mounting of the driver prevents mounting more than one light the way it was supposedly designed and probably does work with the different main lights.

Now I could hang them with the method that I had to use in the 2X4 tent with the SP3000. I knew that I would have to do something like that with that setup. If I hung them in that fashion in this setup, when I wanted to change the height of a light, I would have to adjust 12 hangers! I'm not doing that stupid crap!

It really wouldn't take that much time with a cad program and redesign the mount so that it fits between the bars and underneath the light since it's too long to fit on top! Even then, you can only fit two KINDS of the supplemental lights between the outer bars on this particular light. If you want to use all three of the different spectrum lights you would have to put One set in the center.

I do have something figured out that will work, but I really shouldn't have to do such things!
I'm gonna use some of the green garden hardwire to attach it to the main light. There's enough room for the whole list for hanging the light to get some of the green garden wire in there and I will have to drill four holes for the other two lights. They will hang from the underside of the light between the outer bars.

I really wish that I would have went up in like size and got the FC 4800-EVO. And really not for what I hope would be an easy installation of the supplemental lighting, but for the additional wattage of the main light.
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Thats a bummer... I bet with like 8 cups of coffee and several bong rips you can MacGyver the heck out of that mess! Send Mars the information so they can work on the issue.

 

[KingRatt]

I am very disappointed in my latest purchase from Mars Hydro.

The FC3000 EVO Seems to be OK as far as the light output goes, but I have not put a meter to it. The design of mounting the driver to the light is pretty sketchy at best.
And it's not going to be held by two ratchets, 1 wire loop connecting Each end, It's gonna tilt! So not really that big of a deal but, 4 ratchets to hang it. And with the supplemental lighting attached to it it definitely would tilt out of kelter.

But what is absolutely ridiculous and extremely poorly thought out, is the supplemental lighting and how it is hung with this light. I imagine it MAY work OK with the larger light, FC 4800-EVO, to use with this size of supplemental lighting.

The supplemental lighting should hang between the rows of the light bars. Kinda hard to do when the Supplemental lights are longer than the main light!

Even if they were shorter, you're not gonna fit 3 bars of the supplemental light between two bars of the main light! I've only got the far red and UVA bars. Even if they were shorter you could not use them with the supplied mounting. The mounting points to hang the main light and the mounting of the driver prevents mounting more than one light the way it was supposedly designed and probably does work with the different main lights.

Now I could hang them with the method that I had to use in the 2X4 tent with the SP3000. I knew that I would have to do something like that with that setup. If I hung them in that fashion in this setup, when I wanted to change the height of a light, I would have to adjust 12 hangers! I'm not doing that stupid crap!

It really wouldn't take that much time with a cad program and redesign the mount so that it fits between the bars and underneath the light since it's too long to fit on top! Even then, you can only fit two KINDS of the supplemental lights between the outer bars on this particular light. If you want to use all three of the different spectrum lights you would have to put One set in the center.

I do have something figured out that will work, but I really shouldn't have to do such things!
I'm gonna use some of the green garden hardwire to attach it to the main light. There's enough room for the whole list for hanging the light to get some of the green garden wire in there and I will have to drill four holes for the other two lights. They will hang from the underside of the light between the outer bars.

I really wish that I would have went up in like size and got the FC 4800-EVO. And really not for what I hope would be an easy installation of the supplemental lighting, but for the additional wattage of the main light.
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I went with the Spider Farmer version, the SE3000 because the mounting of the bars is more intuitive and can even be modified pretty easily if any situation required it, and you can make the light more narrow if you had to. I hope you figure it out! Lots of lights usually means lots of hangers, but you have been thru this before so i hope you figure it out with no big problems! I cant wait to see when its all set up! Youre gonna have the most up to date plant tech tent on the internet!

 

[KingRatt]

My new lights are installed in the 3x3 tent.

The first set-up with the deep red just wasn't going to work properly. They were shielding some of the reflected light from the main light. So I ended up using the hard garden wire and tying it down to the top of the light. Being longer than the main light, I only lost a few diodes at the back of a tent by the frame of the main light blocking them.

Then there's the UVA.

In reality, there is just no place to put it for it to be that effective. Absolutely no way to run the lights parallel with the main light's bars! No way to run 'em on the side of the light in parallel with the main light's bars.
So I zip tied them to the front and back of the frame of the main light. I really don't think that's going to be very effective, but there will be some light.

At least everything worked extremely well with my AC Infinity controller! The adapter worked perfectly fine with the new main light and the smart plugs for the supplemental light worked perfect. It probably took no more than two minutes to rename the outlets and program all the lights.

There's really no use in informing our Mars Hydro Representative. I think everybody here understands why. But I will send Mars hydro email and hopefully I can explain the situation so they can understand.

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Maybe you can mount the ad-lites from underneath the lamp with the yoyos going thru the top in between the light bars.

 

[WildBill]

Maybe you can mount the ad-lites from underneath the lamp with the yoyos going thru the top in between the light bars.

That's just more things to adjust when I move the lights.

 

[WildBill]

Well, the girls got their little got their little witches brew this morning.
I do think the Asian haze tester has began her fade and the foxtailing........... and bulking up the buds.

Oldest Crazy Asian Haze Is continuing to pack on her tiny rock hard buds. I probably do need to get the microscope out and take a look. If she's ready she can take a little load off the pot and give a little more room.

Well, I might regret not taking a clone from this girl. When I run some of the Crazy Asian Haze seeds, I'll have an eye out for this one popping up again.

I think it's just total domination from this girl! She has taken over the pot!!

She's almost the height of the Asian Haze tester! She's at 950ppfd! Asian Haze is at 1050ppfd

 

[KingRatt]

That's just more things to adjust when I move the lights.

Yep, but they would each move independently. Maybe a little less of a hassle? Just spitballing, youll come up with something better than the original idea im sure. Sorry its not falling together.