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[KingRatt]

Cleaning plastic pots is so much easier then the woven bags. After I did a couple grows with earth boxes and I seen what the roots could do in the plastic pots change my mind. I have much larger roots masses with plastic containers whether it be in coco or soil. I would have roots filling my Rez of the earthboxes. My solo cups would have roots so dense the coco was gone not so much the case with woven bags. Now that I use plastic pots on my coco it's like a large solo cup root masses and dense AF. So basically I believe the larger dry backs aren't as necessary as thought. Then there comes the factor of disturbing/damaging the roots with bags every time you move them. But if you want faster dry backs maybe they're what you want they do that pretty well depending which bag you get. They are very durable only have ruined one and that was a TLS 2.0 bag ripped out. The regular core series are tough as nails

I have a few of the 1/4 gallon transplant bags that were gift with orders and never had the balls to use them. Cause to get the velcro undone and the plant out if it seemed nearly impossible without damaging. I use mine for storing tools and random shit on my desk. IMO you can't beat a solo cup for transplanting.

If you order a decent amount I normally always got one of the transplant bags as a gift I have 4 and have never bought one

Very good to know! Thanks Dabs! Yeah earthboxes are awesome! Im just learning how to grow in soil, but think i want to try a little hydro/soil combo, especially to maximize on these rad little autos! Maybe a coco/soil hybrid or maybe just straight coco! Not sure yet, but i do want to experiment with different bags. Also the Honor the Plant germ mat/seedling mat thing looks pretty cool too!

 

[JP1]

I'll 2nd the grassroots living soil pots. Good shit

 

[WildBill]

Well, the two girls are in their temporary home in the 4x4 tent.

They'll go back in the 3x3 tent sometime tomorrow after I clean the tent and install the new lights.

 

[WildBill]

Both girls got fed this morning with a witches brew similar to the very last one. Still continuing with the biological blast and I added an ounce of EM 1 and about a half teaspoon of Medina horticultural molasses. All the microbes should the additional sugars .
Well with running the HLG light, I had to turn the AC back on In the lung room. And it's that full blast!
The youngest volunteer is still on her little rage!

I fixed a gallon each and the leftover will be applied to the material I have in one of the totes to start cooking back off.
And that comes to the subject of all the media that I have in totes From prior grows. With now five years under my belt and many different experiments with different media, I have quite the storehouse. I have it currently stacked in totes along the back porch, so it's well out of sight.. There are quite a few totes that are actually just ready to go and have been fully reamended and cooked. Now there's probably very little life in most of them, but there is some and that's easily added.

Ideally I'd like to keep it and then eventually combine it all, get testing and then reamend. If we went legal next year, I could use it in helping veterans get their grow going. But more than likely I think I'm just gonna use it in new flower beds that I can put in. Although it won't be really flower beds it'll be just for small hedges.

 

[WildBill]

Well I think the little volunteer pot really liked this morning's feed! I am liking the darkening of the leaves and the little girl looks really happy. Don't know whether that's just because the feed or under that beast of a light.
She's enjoying life!

 

[WildBill]

This little volunteer just keeps on amazing me! It's definitely becoming a total takeover!
This force feeding mixture that I'm using has definitely done the trick! Now bear in mind this is just a little three gallon pot that has already grown one girl in it and chopped and a fairly sizable volunteer at the end of flower. II am loving the growth, but I think more importantly the color is becoming extremely beautiful.
Now the proof in the pudding will be when this particular girl goes into Flower! Honestly, I don't expect any problems!
She Is currently seeing 730ppfd and the Asian Haze tester is seeing right at 900ppfd. Asian Haze tester Continues to fatten up her buds and begin to see some browning of some pistils, along with some new white pistils.

I might have the 3x3 tent fully set up today with the new lighting, but more than likely it'll be tomorrow morning when I move them.

 

[WildBill]

I am very disappointed in my latest purchase from Mars Hydro.

The FC3000 EVO Seems to be OK as far as the light output goes, but I have not put a meter to it. The design of mounting the driver to the light is pretty sketchy at best.
And it's not going to be held by two ratchets, 1 wire loop connecting Each end, It's gonna tilt! So not really that big of a deal but, 4 ratchets to hang it. And with the supplemental lighting attached to it it definitely would tilt out of kelter.

But what is absolutely ridiculous and extremely poorly thought out, is the supplemental lighting and how it is hung with this light. I imagine it MAY work OK with the larger light, FC 4800-EVO, to use with this size of supplemental lighting.

The supplemental lighting should hang between the rows of the light bars. Kinda hard to do when the Supplemental lights are longer than the main light!

Even if they were shorter, you're not gonna fit 3 bars of the supplemental light between two bars of the main light! I've only got the far red and UVA bars. Even if they were shorter you could not use them with the supplied mounting. The mounting points to hang the main light and the mounting of the driver prevents mounting more than one light the way it was supposedly designed and probably does work with the different main lights.

Now I could hang them with the method that I had to use in the 2X4 tent with the SP3000. I knew that I would have to do something like that with that setup. If I hung them in that fashion in this setup, when I wanted to change the height of a light, I would have to adjust 12 hangers! I'm not doing that stupid crap!

It really wouldn't take that much time with a cad program and redesign the mount so that it fits between the bars and underneath the light since it's too long to fit on top! Even then, you can only fit two KINDS of the supplemental lights between the outer bars on this particular light. If you want to use all three of the different spectrum lights you would have to put One set in the center.

I do have something figured out that will work, but I really shouldn't have to do such things!
I'm gonna use some of the green garden hardwire to attach it to the main light. There's enough room for the whole list for hanging the light to get some of the green garden wire in there and I will have to drill four holes for the other two lights. They will hang from the underside of the light between the outer bars.

I really wish that I would have went up in like size and got the FC 4800-EVO. And really not for what I hope would be an easy installation of the supplemental lighting, but for the additional wattage of the main light.

 

[JP1]

I am very disappointed in my latest purchase from Mars Hydro.

The FC3000 EVO Seems to be OK as far as the light output goes, but I have not put a meter to it. The design of mounting the driver to the light is pretty sketchy at best.
And it's not going to be held by two ratchets, 1 wire loop connecting Each end, It's gonna tilt! So not really that big of a deal but, 4 ratchets to hang it. And with the supplemental lighting attached to it it definitely would tilt out of kelter.

But what is absolutely ridiculous and extremely poorly thought out, is the supplemental lighting and how it is hung with this light. I imagine it MAY work OK with the larger light, FC 4800-EVO, to use with this size of supplemental lighting.

The supplemental lighting should hang between the rows of the light bars. Kinda hard to do when the Supplemental lights are longer than the main light!

Even if they were shorter, you're not gonna fit 3 bars of the supplemental light between two bars of the main light! I've only got the far red and UVA bars. Even if they were shorter you could not use them with the supplied mounting. The mounting points to hang the main light and the mounting of the driver prevents mounting more than one light the way it was supposedly designed and probably does work with the different main lights.

Now I could hang them with the method that I had to use in the 2X4 tent with the SP3000. I knew that I would have to do something like that with that setup. If I hung them in that fashion in this setup, when I wanted to change the height of a light, I would have to adjust 12 hangers! I'm not doing that stupid crap!

It really wouldn't take that much time with a cad program and redesign the mount so that it fits between the bars and underneath the light since it's too long to fit on top! Even then, you can only fit two KINDS of the supplemental lights between the outer bars on this particular light. If you want to use all three of the different spectrum lights you would have to put One set in the center.

I do have something figured out that will work, but I really shouldn't have to do such things!
I'm gonna use some of the green garden hardwire to attach it to the main light. There's enough room for the whole list for hanging the light to get some of the green garden wire in there and I will have to drill four holes for the other two lights. They will hang from the underside of the light between the outer bars.

I really wish that I would have went up in like size and got the FC 4800-EVO. And really not for what I hope would be an easy installation of the supplemental lighting, but for the additional wattage of the main light.
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Can't just zip tie them to the top of the light? That's a removable driver

 

[WildBill]

Can't just zip tie them to the top of the light? That's a removable driver

Not really. It's a pretty small hole on the supplemental light fixture And there's just not that much meat there to expand it anymore. The wire will give me a bit more adjustability to make sure that the light points in the proper direction. Now where I will be using zip ties is trying to organize all the frigging electrical cords that come with this particular setup. I use quite a bit with the 2X4 tent, but that's expected. And that's also why you really gotta hang this light from 4 corners. It's just not gonna balance out otherwise.
And looking at it further, I think I could use the hard Green Garden wire Without drilling into the frame of the main light. Still gonna be a tight fit to get two bars in between there.

It just kinda irks me that they could have made the Supplemental lights fit with a simple redesign of the mounts made for this particular light.

Once I get it done, I'll take some measurements because some people are asking about the setup of the supplemental lighting with other lights and mainly I'll be looking at how it fits between the bars.

 

[WildBill]

My new lights are installed in the 3x3 tent.

The first set-up with the deep red just wasn't going to work properly. They were shielding some of the reflected light from the main light. So I ended up using the hard garden wire and tying it down to the top of the light. Being longer than the main light, I only lost a few diodes at the back of a tent by the frame of the main light blocking them.

Then there's the UVA.

In reality, there is just no place to put it for it to be that effective. Absolutely no way to run the lights parallel with the main light's bars! No way to run 'em on the side of the light in parallel with the main light's bars.
So I zip tied them to the front and back of the frame of the main light. I really don't think that's going to be very effective, but there will be some light.

At least everything worked extremely well with my AC Infinity controller! The adapter worked perfectly fine with the new main light and the smart plugs for the supplemental light worked perfect. It probably took no more than two minutes to rename the outlets and program all the lights.

There's really no use in informing our Mars Hydro Representative. I think everybody here understands why. But I will send Mars hydro email and hopefully I can explain the situation so they can understand.