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[WildBill]

The experiments are still looking quite nice.
I didn't get to feed them until right at lights out. Medina Has to Grow was the feed again and at the same rate as before, 50 milliliters for 1 1/2 gallons.
Here they are after feeding.
Asian haze is showing typical growth pattern, just smaller with this amount of flowering showing.
Just gonna continue following no training and let her do her thing naturally.
We'll see what she looks like in a month.

 

[KingRatt]

From them eh.. just to be clear once again, didn't mean you personally, was trying to explain that already in my previous comment.

It's in my nature to be a bit skeptic and tbh working in this industry for a long time already I've seen my fair share of promises and claims.. and I can tell you there have been so many that I lost count. Would be a shame if you let a few questions here and there make you shut down on this topic, as I think knowledge/experience sharing is what this community is all about.. so please don't take this personal

Allright sounds promising, yeah what I wonder is if there really is science behind it to prove this, everyone can claim what they want, but how they do it and how it is proven? I agree with you that real life experiences make all the difference but that still doesn't prove their technique/product does what they claim to be true.

Yes, you're right, it ain't that much on the total amount spend, but I would say, just add in those extra 5 racks from the get go, instead of having to buy it for another 75 dollar. Cost wise, its probably less than a twenty for them.

The issue i have with the Cannatrol system is how quickly everything happens! The way i understood it there were alot of biological processes still happening in the plant after its cut down. They way i learned to dry and cure, in a nutshell is : “dry it as slowly as possible without letting molds form” I always was told that drying too quickly can halt the curing process and lead to inferior bud. Also i have definitely dried cannabis too quickly and it gets the same symptom of not smelling at all unless you break the bud open. I didnt think that was a good thing. But im still learning and would love to see science based facts to help give me a better understanding of how all this ends up with a better product. I like the idea, but until i get to try some well grown bud dried in a cannatrol vs the same bud dried and cured well naturally, i wont be able to make my mind up. the only big incentive for me is the discretion side which i can produce with a 50$ tent and a 75$ fan and carbon filter. I can definitely see the use for commercial production as time is money. I want one but i dont wanna regret buying one lol.

 

[WildBill]

The issue i have with the Cannatrol system is how quickly everything happens! The way i understood it there were alot of biological processes still happening in the plant after its cut down. They way i learned to dry and cure, in a nutshell is : “dry it as slowly as possible without letting molds form” I always was told that drying too quickly can halt the curing process and lead to inferior bud. Also i have definitely dried cannabis too quickly and it gets the same symptom of not smelling at all unless you break the bud open. I didnt think that was a good thing. But im still learning and would love to see science based facts to help give me a better understanding of how all this ends up with a better product. I like the idea, but until i get to try some well grown bud dried in a cannatrol vs the same bud dried and cured well naturally, i wont be able to make my mind up. the only big incentive for me is the discretion side which i can produce with a 50$ tent and a 75$ fan and carbon filter. I can definitely see the use for commercial production as time is money. I want one but i dont wanna regret buying one lol.

If you can put 2.2 lb of pure wet bud in this thing and in 8 days get out something that smokes extremely smooth and leaves some of the whitest ash, then it's worth it!

I've given several samples to some hardcore stoners to get their opinion. Every single one of them have said "No way!" , when I tell them how long it's been drying and curing.

That's a lot of money to let go on something that you're not sure of. I felt exactly the same way!

I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever spending the money on something so effortless and to come out with the quality that it comes out with..

 

[WildBill]

A morning Check with the light meter shows that the little experiments are definitely growing upwards.
Asian haze is right at 620 ppfd and Crazy Asian it's right at 520ppfd.

 

[WildBill]

You know, Asian Haze is not really a frost monster or anything close to that.

But she's got a damn kick!

I didn't get to smoke much flower the first time I grew her. I fresh froze the outdoor girl and the clone was only so so with me playing with the light schedule.
The flower from this run is very potent. It's a nice even high that hits the head and the body. Everybody that's tried it loves it. Couple of them said it was pretty heavy for them.

Out of all that hash that I got off the outdoor girl, I didn't squish any of it! It was all made into temple balls and hash bricks. The hash was very good and the temple balls were just insanely tasty. I think this run may exceed that first one in the flavor arena and most likely potency. I think I have three and a half gallon bags that are packed pretty tightly sitting in the freezer.
I really want to squish some! It kind of looks like the local dry ice supply is back on questionable. This means a almost 90 miles round trip to get dry ice. Now that's no big deal with the quality of dry ice I get. I'm getting directly from the manufacturer. There is a pretty distinct difference. I'm getting block ice. If it was that tiny ice, I think I could only use it if it were local and then quality of that's going to be poor.
But that's going to be a very long day committal. I gotta go get it. It will take a fair amount of time to shake that much buds with Bubble Bowls. The result of the shake will determine what I do from there. Whatever I do, I will do majority of that the same day. I think I really want to squish the majority of it. I might reserve some back to make a temple ball but I'm not going to make a lot of brick hash.

Ohh! All that was basically to say that THC Numbers aren't the end all be all of a high!

 

[WildBill]

Ohh looky! It's another one!

It's beginning to get a bit crowded in there!

I really probably should throw a here in there for the nighttime temps. He does take a quite a bit for the tent to warm up.

I do like how she's kind of just training herself and opening up. And trimming the very bottom and Cleaning that up, there's really nothing that I could do to her.

 

[WildBill]

I was thinking of how well Asian Haze was beginning to flower, so I decided that I need to raise them up.
It was just way easier to add another of my wooden platforms to her and take the bricks from her platform to raise up the other girl. Hell of a lot easier to get the light even That way rather than manipulating eight strings. That's kind of the downside of using these small lights. With the drivers on top of them they don't sit even sometimes.

Anyway, Asian Haze is seeing just under 700ppfd and the other girl is seeing about 60 less.

 

[WildBill]

The girls seem to like the raising up closer to the light. That's the parent coming out!You know, those things that only a parent would notice!

I can tell though that I do need to add something to Crazy Asian feed. I think I'll just increase what I've been giving her. It doesn't really show up in the photos but I see a slight shade change in her leaves.

I think Asian Haze is doing well. I do think that She is slightly sensitive to dry down. I think with the different grows I've done with her, I think she likes a little bit wetter conditions. I think it's partially one of the reasons why the girl in the larger pot did so much better.

She's definitely hitting the flower pretty hard and doing quite nicely!

Hadn't had a worm update in a bit.
They absolutely Devoured the last feed that I had set up. All the newspaper and the pizza box cardboard were almost completely chowed down!

Today's mixture was much of the same. I did a one to one ratio of Uncle Jim's commercial worm feed and the bulk material from making J. I added roughly 1/3 of that combined material with coffee grounds. Once that was thoroughly mixed, I added 2 tablespoons of The BAS Montana Grow Volcanic silica. While it will eventually help the plants, it is being utilized now for grit to help the worms digest their food a bit better. During that process, it does get broken down into plant usable silica.

I lightly mixed the concoction into the first couple of inches and wetted it down thoroughly with plain water. Lots of juveniles and adults and quite a few cocoons!

Over the top of that, I layered and wetted down the weekly coupon newspaper. Then all that was covered with a trimmed up and thoroughly wetted down pizza box to keep all the moisture in the top layer and food for the worms. The worms absolutely love cardboard.
That cardboard will probably be gone in about two weeks. The newspaper within one.

 

[BII]

Some might be concerned that additives, inks/dyes, pigments, metals, binders, bleach and solvent residues, plastic/wax coatings, etc. from newspaper, pizza boxes, etc. will be accumulated by the worms and passed into the soil for uptake by the plants. Newspaper, pizza boxes, etc. added to your soil in some growers' view would presumably make your soil and grows no longer considered "organic," even presumed tainted/contaminated. If that is a concern, maybe use paper/cardboard without printing (but that still leaves a lot of contaminants). [If you wouldn't want to consume say sterilized newspaper/cardboard or filtrate (what leaches off) due to concern over toxic contents, you probably shouldn't be feeding this stuff to the worms and your plants].

 

[WildBill]

Some might be concerned that additives, inks/dyes, pigments, metals, binders, bleach and solvent residues, plastic/wax coatings, etc. from newspaper, pizza boxes, etc. will be accumulated by the worms and passed into the soil for uptake by the plants. Newspaper, pizza boxes, etc. added to your soil in some growers' view would presumably make your soil and grows no longer considered "organic," even presumed tainted/contaminated. If that is a concern, maybe use paper/cardboard without printing (but that still leaves a lot of contaminants). [If you wouldn't want to consume say sterilized newspaper/cardboard or filtrate (what leaches off) due to concern over toxic contents, you probably shouldn't be feeding this stuff to the worms and your plants].

I understand why someone would think that. I guess it's really kind of like anything in life, you need to know what you're doing.

This is a very long-standing common practice in growing worms and making vermicompost.

Cardboard that comes in contact with food has certain standards. At least that's what the standard used to be several years ago.
I'm not worried about the Soy Based inks the paper or cardboard. As long as it's not the shiny type of news print, the ink used are just food coloring.

You stay away from shiny printed material and coated cardboard.

There is absolutely no chemicals in the materials I use that can be harmful.

I would be more concerned with some of the big store bagged compost or soil. Another big Element I would not do without personal knowledge of, is use horse or dairy cow manure. That's why I don't use it.

Let's put it this way, I would be more worried about composting leaves off of a tree next to busy roadway. ............................... Even more so back in the 70s with all the lead in the gasoline.

I've been doing this for quite a while. If you go back to where I was talking about making compost on the farm, you should note the precautions that I took.

Do you think I would do anything questionable, when I purposely select non gmo Two row barley to malt to make seed sprout tea, top dressing or worm food?