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I think this observation that was posted in Live Stoner Chat needs to be documented here!
Ohh yeah. They will ask for that. I've been posting in their thread more than they have for the last couple of months!
After this grow is finished, that light will become a mom light. I could probably hang it up in my walk-in closet and keep a mom alive in there fairly easily............. if I'm not drying something in there.
It's a great little light in that 2.3 X2 .3 tent. But it is 50 watts less than the HLG light I bought for that tent. 50 Watts is quite the difference for such a small area.
With the design of the Mars light, it's much more focused in its light coverage than the HLG. But with the hlg light not only is there 50 more watts the coverage area is slightly larger and there's also more reflective light. I know you you lose a lot of the energy from reflective light but it is additional light. That can make quite the difference on the buds closest to the side of the tent.
I think they both have equal amounts of intensity with the Mars having the smaller footprint. That means they should have fairly equal amount of canopy penetration. The one thing that I think that I have seen from several grows with Mars lights, I think they just have a little too much blue light. I think it keeps the plants too squatty. I do think it is more impactful on autos with their set time clock.
I think with a Mars light you have to keep your par figures down for a longer time to get the auto plant to stretch some and then bring up your par figures.
With UVA being toward the blue end of the spectrum and still photoactive,, part of its effect is to tend to keep the plant shorter. This is the reasoning behind the following observations.
Two grows ago in the 4x4 tent under the HLG DIABLO 650R, I had the supplemental UVA bar installed but I did not utilize it. I definitely didn't have any problems with short girls in that grow! Now with the introduction of the supplemental HLG UVA Light bar, I've had quite the learning curve. The first grow I had, the light was set to the same 18/6 schedule and introduced relatively early in cycle. Plants were short and some got very purple. And some did both. The current grow, , the UVA is set for 12 hours mid life cycle and introduce relatively early in cycle. Again, these girls are very short. Purpling has lessened to a degree on the known girls.
The buds have been extremely dense and extremely frosty. Now, a great deal of that is genetics, but we've all grown great genetics poorly or not to their fullest potential.
This upcoming run in the 4X 4 tent will be photos, but I will still use the supplemental UVA the same schedule as I intend to do with autos. The UVA will not be utilized until onset of flower. For both photos and autos, it will be set to six hours mid light cycle. This will eliminate the additional blue spectrum light in the seedling and vegetative stages. I think the longer cycle in the past grows are just too harsh on the leaves. It takes its cumulative toll. This will allow me to bring the girls to the end of their life cycle in far better condition..
I'm fairly sure the Nugs will be just as frosty and just as hard.
As far as the early stage growth is concerned,I made changes in the current grow with the two Mars light tents. I did keep the par figures down for quite awhile. Especially in the 2x4 tent with both Walter White and Aunt Jeannie's Elixier not doing a bunch of anything for at least seven to 10 days. I got satisfactory results in all those girls in the tents.
Hopefully this nice long diatribe will help someone here that will take the time to read the **** long **** thing!
Ohh yeah. They will ask for that. I've been posting in their thread more than they have for the last couple of months!
After this grow is finished, that light will become a mom light. I could probably hang it up in my walk-in closet and keep a mom alive in there fairly easily............. if I'm not drying something in there.
It's a great little light in that 2.3 X2 .3 tent. But it is 50 watts less than the HLG light I bought for that tent. 50 Watts is quite the difference for such a small area.
With the design of the Mars light, it's much more focused in its light coverage than the HLG. But with the hlg light not only is there 50 more watts the coverage area is slightly larger and there's also more reflective light. I know you you lose a lot of the energy from reflective light but it is additional light. That can make quite the difference on the buds closest to the side of the tent.
I think they both have equal amounts of intensity with the Mars having the smaller footprint. That means they should have fairly equal amount of canopy penetration. The one thing that I think that I have seen from several grows with Mars lights, I think they just have a little too much blue light. I think it keeps the plants too squatty. I do think it is more impactful on autos with their set time clock.
I think with a Mars light you have to keep your par figures down for a longer time to get the auto plant to stretch some and then bring up your par figures.
With UVA being toward the blue end of the spectrum and still photoactive,, part of its effect is to tend to keep the plant shorter. This is the reasoning behind the following observations.
Two grows ago in the 4x4 tent under the HLG DIABLO 650R, I had the supplemental UVA bar installed but I did not utilize it. I definitely didn't have any problems with short girls in that grow! Now with the introduction of the supplemental HLG UVA Light bar, I've had quite the learning curve. The first grow I had, the light was set to the same 18/6 schedule and introduced relatively early in cycle. Plants were short and some got very purple. And some did both. The current grow, , the UVA is set for 12 hours mid life cycle and introduce relatively early in cycle. Again, these girls are very short. Purpling has lessened to a degree on the known girls.
The buds have been extremely dense and extremely frosty. Now, a great deal of that is genetics, but we've all grown great genetics poorly or not to their fullest potential.
This upcoming run in the 4X 4 tent will be photos, but I will still use the supplemental UVA the same schedule as I intend to do with autos. The UVA will not be utilized until onset of flower. For both photos and autos, it will be set to six hours mid light cycle. This will eliminate the additional blue spectrum light in the seedling and vegetative stages. I think the longer cycle in the past grows are just too harsh on the leaves. It takes its cumulative toll. This will allow me to bring the girls to the end of their life cycle in far better condition..
I'm fairly sure the Nugs will be just as frosty and just as hard.
As far as the early stage growth is concerned,I made changes in the current grow with the two Mars light tents. I did keep the par figures down for quite awhile. Especially in the 2x4 tent with both Walter White and Aunt Jeannie's Elixier not doing a bunch of anything for at least seven to 10 days. I got satisfactory results in all those girls in the tents.
Hopefully this nice long diatribe will help someone here that will take the time to read the **** long **** thing!
I checked the route intrusion into the nutrient mound of RUCU CUCU last night. Her feet are roots really hadn't got into the top of the nutrient bound enough to warrant additional amendments. So she got her reservoir filled last night
Mack N CrackAnd all the other three gallon potted girls got watered with a bit of FFJ in the water with a touch of aminos.
Aunt Jeannie's Elixier and Walter White continue to bulk up the buds. Walter White is definitely going to put on a color show. Both have definitely slowed down on water intake. Both of them will get their reservoirs filled before noon.
Knows Candy Is starting her own version of the color show! All of her tops have begun to show so it's gonna be a really pretty sight.
Definitely gonna be looking for Amber Lamps again today! I'm fully expecting to chop the Twenty20 Tester girls today.
If I do chop them today, the big pot girls will get fully reamended for the next grow. I'm going to use Craft Blend and Lobster compost with some volcanic fluff mixed together for this first round. I'll measure out the Craft Blend for the pot size and mix that with the compost and then water it all in. I don't have enough EWC to add at this moment. I am gonna use some of mine that I have going right now, but I'm gonna add worms at the same time. Worms just do not like Craft Blend.................. Unless it's been in the media for a bit.
I was handing craft blend to a pot when I saw the worms have a very violent reaction when they came into contact with it. It even lasted after I got the sprayer out and washed the stuff down. I don't know if it killed Them or hurt them, but they definitely had a reaction to it! I think I'll give it a week to settle down before I add the worms. I think I'll add my straw after reseed some of the cover crop.
Speaking of words, I've gotta see if I can get these boogers to move into their new home. I'm gonna pull all of the food on top, what little is left, and set it aside. The top section that I'm adding has like tunnels that project into the by the media to give the worms the pathway to come up to the top section. I've never used this style of worm bands so we'll see.
Mack N CrackAnd all the other three gallon potted girls got watered with a bit of FFJ in the water with a touch of aminos.
Aunt Jeannie's Elixier and Walter White continue to bulk up the buds. Walter White is definitely going to put on a color show. Both have definitely slowed down on water intake. Both of them will get their reservoirs filled before noon.
Knows Candy Is starting her own version of the color show! All of her tops have begun to show so it's gonna be a really pretty sight.
Definitely gonna be looking for Amber Lamps again today! I'm fully expecting to chop the Twenty20 Tester girls today.
If I do chop them today, the big pot girls will get fully reamended for the next grow. I'm going to use Craft Blend and Lobster compost with some volcanic fluff mixed together for this first round. I'll measure out the Craft Blend for the pot size and mix that with the compost and then water it all in. I don't have enough EWC to add at this moment. I am gonna use some of mine that I have going right now, but I'm gonna add worms at the same time. Worms just do not like Craft Blend.................. Unless it's been in the media for a bit.
I was handing craft blend to a pot when I saw the worms have a very violent reaction when they came into contact with it. It even lasted after I got the sprayer out and washed the stuff down. I don't know if it killed Them or hurt them, but they definitely had a reaction to it! I think I'll give it a week to settle down before I add the worms. I think I'll add my straw after reseed some of the cover crop.
Speaking of words, I've gotta see if I can get these boogers to move into their new home. I'm gonna pull all of the food on top, what little is left, and set it aside. The top section that I'm adding has like tunnels that project into the by the media to give the worms the pathway to come up to the top section. I've never used this style of worm bands so we'll see.
We found Amber Lamps!
All the pictures were way over exposed. I had to correct them for brightness and exposure only for the ambers to show up.
Chic-lit
Strawberry Biscotti
Knows Candy
Just ambers on early maturing areas
Vidamints
It's hard to believe that this girl is a medicinal!
The frost level makes it more difficult to take a decent shot!
Walter White
Aunt Jeannie's Elixir
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Outstanding. Thank you.
Strawberry Biscotti and Chic-lit were chopped this morning and the buds are now sitting in the freezer. 
I went ahead and dissected the Rain Science 15 gallon pots. I was very happy with the root structure of the girl and the root structure of the cover crop.
Definitely a lot of carbon material added to something more usable. The cover crop roots went all the way down to the bottom of the pot.
And the Rain Science 15 gallon pots are just not good candidates for a no-till living soil grow. I think 15 gallons is borderline to start with, but with the bag construction, the Rain Science 15 gallon bag just dry out too quick.
Here's what is left in the 4X4 tent!
I think at 11:00 PM tonight I will move my Bloodstone seed girls over to this tent. It will give the other girls in the 2X4 more room.
Knows Candy Is having a very pretty fade! I think within the week she will get the chop.
I would move my Mephisto girls into that tent, but I don't think they're gonna be there very long. Both girls are in their fade with Walter just a bit further along. They both are still drinking a good amount and definitely are still packing on the bud.
Aunt Jeannie's Elixier Is definitely a chunky girl! One of them Kansas corn fed girls!!!!
She got a reservoir filled again this morning.
Walter White does have some heft also! Her fade and her bud color change are gonna both be pretty.
I went ahead and dissected the Rain Science 15 gallon pots. I was very happy with the root structure of the girl and the root structure of the cover crop.
Definitely a lot of carbon material added to something more usable. The cover crop roots went all the way down to the bottom of the pot.
And the Rain Science 15 gallon pots are just not good candidates for a no-till living soil grow. I think 15 gallons is borderline to start with, but with the bag construction, the Rain Science 15 gallon bag just dry out too quick.
Here's what is left in the 4X4 tent!
I think at 11:00 PM tonight I will move my Bloodstone seed girls over to this tent. It will give the other girls in the 2X4 more room.
Knows Candy Is having a very pretty fade! I think within the week she will get the chop.
I would move my Mephisto girls into that tent, but I don't think they're gonna be there very long. Both girls are in their fade with Walter just a bit further along. They both are still drinking a good amount and definitely are still packing on the bud.
Aunt Jeannie's Elixier Is definitely a chunky girl! One of them Kansas corn fed girls!!!!
She got a reservoir filled again this morning.
Walter White does have some heft also! Her fade and her bud color change are gonna both be pretty.
Well, I looked for her pretty hard, but I just couldn't find Amber Lamps!
Knows Candy Is right there on the verge. Much more opaque trichomes. It looks like to me that the vast majority of Amber is on the early maturing parts . There are a few, but I went over the plant pretty thoroughly. I will check her Thursday. Her fade is telling the same story............. Close!
Vidamints Is telling pretty much the same story, just less mature. And true to her nature she is the absolute frostiest in the tent! I'm really going to miss growing her in the next grow. I will be growing other photo 1:1 THC/CBD In the grow, but I know what kind of good meds she produces. Twenty20 Adam Should be very proud of her!
I think my Bloodstone Seeded girls are ready for harvest.
Knows Candy Is right there on the verge. Much more opaque trichomes. It looks like to me that the vast majority of Amber is on the early maturing parts . There are a few, but I went over the plant pretty thoroughly. I will check her Thursday. Her fade is telling the same story............. Close!
Vidamints Is telling pretty much the same story, just less mature. And true to her nature she is the absolute frostiest in the tent! I'm really going to miss growing her in the next grow. I will be growing other photo 1:1 THC/CBD In the grow, but I know what kind of good meds she produces. Twenty20 Adam Should be very proud of her!
I think my Bloodstone Seeded girls are ready for harvest.
The search for Amber Lamps will continue this morning.
But that will be after installing this.
Currently, it will be just used for monitoring the CO 2 levels to give me some sort of idea of what's going on in my grow room. It's probably not gonna get used to supplement until probably February.
I'm just gonna use it in flower with photos. With autos I might use it from the very beginning and slightly elevated above ambient . Just to give autos an extra kick in the pants.
But that will be after installing this.
Currently, it will be just used for monitoring the CO 2 levels to give me some sort of idea of what's going on in my grow room. It's probably not gonna get used to supplement until probably February.
I'm just gonna use it in flower with photos. With autos I might use it from the very beginning and slightly elevated above ambient . Just to give autos an extra kick in the pants.
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That's normal. In-house your CO² values are on average double that to the outside. Outside I measure 400-450ppm and inside this doubles to 880ppm and bedrooms are even worse. We spend more time in that room then any other and tend too forget to ventilate that space...So use that air for your plants and add to that a reasonable sized yeast generator and you'll have plenty of CO² to run everything a bit higher then normal
