First Grow In Almost 2 Years!

JAB · Mar 30, 2024

Lil Dab said:
Only time will tell I would think so but honesty I don't know for sure. I would make sure to soak or flush those pellets out with diluted nutes ph 5.8-6.2 Have you used the trio with coco? I wonder how that will work since it's designed for their soil that has stuff in it already.

I've never ran coco before

just winging it for this run with a freebie seed but next run I'll be using the floraflex coco with GH nutes more than likely. But we shall find out! I'll flush the pellet and get the pH and ppm correct or at least try to. Lol

JAB · Mar 30, 2024

PeaceLove&Buds said:
Yes I use GH nutes and I use Royal Gold Tupur coco. I’ve been reading this thread and it was the first time I’ve heard someone talk about cleaning or buffering their coco before the grow. I’ve never done it so I don’t know what I’m missing I guess but since all my grows have been healthy and fruitful, I’m a little wary of changing up now. Im thinking that must be only be necessary if you start with a brick? As for the nutes, on my first visit to the hydro shop I told the guy I didn’t want to be guessing at ALL when it came to when to water, how much to water, when and how much to feed. He suggested coco since I have to fertigate every day and the GH nutes because they come with a detailed week by week feeding schedule. I use a 9 part nute system and I can easily see why someone would say it’s “more work” than just watering soil with an occasional top dress, but for ME since it only takes 10 minutes a week to mix the nutes, there is “more work” in wondering if I should water today. Hope that makes sense. I assumed when I started that I would venture out and try new nutes because I heard that GH is pretty generic but two years later I’m still happy with the process and the results.

Edit…just remembered that after about a year of using my coco I saw on cocoforcannabis that the guy was using the same Royal Gold Tupur coco as I was and he said:
I am currently growing in Royal Gold Coco. I met their senior product specialist at a conference and was impressed with his knowledge and their processes. He sent me a sample which I am using now and very happy with. This is one of the only coco grows in which I have completely avoided “CalMag problems”. The mix of fiber sizes also promotes better water distribution. Unfortunately, it is currently available only in the US. If you want to grow in this coco, I recommend looking for it locally, because shipping makes online prices expensive. If you are forced to order online, then there are more cost-effective options which you may want to consider.

I'll definitey look into the royal gold coco as well. I appreciate your advice! GH nutes from what I'm reading are one of the most diluted for hydro to minimize salt build up so hopefully thats the case as I love their simple and direct feeding schedule.

JAB · Mar 30, 2024

Vapo said:
I will vouch for @Greenleaf Nutrients MegaCrop dude, I have always DTW feed with MC and no problem....I just weighed out what I needed, put it in the water till it dissolved, Ph and serve dude.....I only stopped using it a little while ago bcoz I ran out haha.....it's good stuff dude!!

Yea I'm in between the MC and GH nutes. I wanted to use MC in my soil grows as top dress for awhile now but never got around to ordering it and Fxo farms messes my order up and doubled my shipment told me to keep it so I was stacked up for awhile. Lol

JAB · Mar 30, 2024

Lil Dab said:
Thanks for chiming in good info. Yes from what I’ve seen most bagged coco is pretty good outta the bag. It just became habit for me from using brick which it is necessary IMO. Now the Floraflex bagged coco is 6x washed but it is not buffered at least from what I can tell

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Honestly with my OCD I will wash and buffer if needed regardless of the coco because I have to know for sure it is clean and where it needs to be. I wash and pick through my soil as well all the sticks and stuff I take out one by one and I take the perlite out and put my own in. Weird like that

BII · Mar 30, 2024

Vapo said:
I will vouch for @Greenleaf Nutrients MegaCrop dude, I have always DTW feed with MC and no problem....I just weighed out what I needed, put it in the water till it dissolved, Ph and serve dude.....I only stopped using it a little while ago bcoz I ran out haha.....it's good stuff dude!!

And I even use MegaCrop 2-part without ever adjusting or measuring pH or ppm/EC (starting with RO water). With it composed primarily of amino acid chelated (highly bioavailable) nutrients, for me (DTW in coco/perlite) it works at least at well as Adv. Nutrients' pH Perfect Connoisseur base nutes.

JAB · Mar 30, 2024

BII said:
And I even use MegaCrop 2-part without ever adjusting or measuring pH or ppm/EC (starting with RO water). With it composed primarily of amino acid chelated (highly bioavailable) nutrients, for me (DTW in coco/perlite) it works at least at well as Adv. Nutrients' pH Perfect Connoisseur base nutes.

Wait so pH perfect nutes work in coco as well? I would still check the PH regardless but if it helps level it out that would be awesome. I wanted to do the connoisseur AN nutes I already had it all saved to my cart.

BII · Mar 30, 2024

_~JAB~_ said:
Wait so pH perfect nutes work in coco as well? I would still check the PH regardless but if it helps level it out that would be awesome. I wanted to do the connoisseur AN nutes I already had it all saved to my cart.

Yes of course Adv. Nutr. pH Perfect base nutes work in coco, without bothering to adjust pH (starting with low ppm water). That's surely the primary market being targeted. They even have coco (cal-mag boosted) versions of both the base Sensi and top-of-the-line Connoisseur product lines.

I've used the Connoisseur grow and bloom, both reg. and coco versions, and they work very well (much as 2-part MegaCrop also works well even without pH adjustment). You can't go wrong using the Connoisseur nutes, the top-line nutes from the likely market leader, with few others yet able to attain being "pH Perfect," not recommending pH adjustment.

I'd now prefer the reg. over the coco versions, with the coco versions over time perhaps from what I've seen resulting in some excess Ca/Mg inhibiting N usage -- I'd rather treat any cal-mag deficiencies or preventative doses by foliar feeding.

JAB · Mar 30, 2024

@JP1 can I shorten the soak time or no? The runoff in separate container is PH 5.8 and 355ppm. If I can get it in the tent tonight then I can plant the seed tomorrow evening direct instead of peat pellet. It soaked in cal/mag for 24 hours but in the nutes for 10 hours now.

JP1 · Mar 30, 2024

_~JAB~_ said:
@JP1 can I shorten the soak time or no? The runoff in separate container is PH 5.8 and 355ppm. If I can get it in the tent tonight then I can plant the seed tomorrow evening direct instead of peat pellet. It soaked in cal/mag for 24 hours but in the nutes for 10 hours now.

Can't tell you 100%, but probably. As long as they got the proper calmag soak

JAB · Mar 30, 2024

JP1 said:
Can't tell you 100%, but probably. As long as they got the proper calmag soak

I guess I might as well take the chance. I would much rather start in the coco direct considering the effort to get pH and ppm right if the jiffy pellet were to mess that up I'ma be mad haha so we shall find out. Worst case scenario I just feed sooner than anticipated I guess? Cal mag was soaked 24 hours the first time but ppm was to high so I flushed and soaked again for 24 hours.

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