Outdoor Off the beaten path- uk guerrilla grow

[Oldbie]

I'm sure a few extra days won't do any harm - just don't let them go so long they get root bound - once they are I've found poor recovery so plants just seem reluctant t push out new roots (you should try and tease them out rather than leave them in a ball).

@Oldbie I had to abandon my woodland site this year, which is one I had been slowly adapting in the autumn - tree thining | | (that's the height of sun v's tree height dance). Was a real find or so I thought till I saw a fresh flurry of horse hooves thru the clearing (a new occurrence) - damn I might have created a path.... shite ! ! !. An operation earlier this year killed the idea anyway so i'll never known if it wood have worked, but at least I haven't had to carry rucksacks of compost and boxes with plants in em by public transport (bus). As urbanites the only other green spaces we have around here are called parks haha.

Ha ha, No Spliffy, you don't want to be transporting site materials by bus if you can help it! certainly not 4 x 4 bits of plywood and rolls of chicken wire, not to mention transplant ready seedlings. the one bit of advice I think that sticks out from my experience for guerrilla growing, is don't use expensive seed; do a seed run at home, or somewhere safe first and then its not such a heartbreak if they get eaten by slugs or mice or pigeons or.... the list goes on...plenty can go wrong that's for sure.
bye for now matie.

 

[knocker powell]

I love it. Misty sounds like the most perfect stripper name! I'm going to have to look out for her (the seeds not the stripper!)

have a good day, buddy. happy blazing.

 

[Oldbie]

I love it. Misty sounds like the most perfect stripper name! I'm going to have to look out for her (the seeds not the stripper!)

have a good day, buddy. happy blazing.

Howdy Knocker,
I don't know that anyone is doing an auto version of Misty.
having used it to cross with Flo (DP)-not a favourite, though the cross was good,
Durban (Sensi-10% indica- I produced a nice cross with an indican pheno),
NL5xhaze (my biggest disaster to date-see "PREVENTING FUNGUS GNATS AND SPIDERMITES" by Nuggz.
I think i`m finished with Misty; I think I ll try her big sister White widow (Pyramid seeds version) and compare;
I m sure I am one of the few around who HASNT tried WW.
that's all for now.
party on man.

 

[knocker powell]

hey oldbie - i might have to be picking your brains for some crossing tips!

blaze on amigo!

 

[Oldbie]

hey oldbie - i might have to be picking your brains for some crossing tips!

blaze on amigo!

No Problem Knocker, but really I am no expert; its just a matter of a lot of testing, male and female tops after alternate phyllotaxy has started.
discard any that have that "something missing" element and of course rejecting any poorly performing individuals. a certain amount of post-harvest adjudicating is recommended; in other words, seeding some possible keepers and deciding whether or not they are good enough at a later stage; preferably at least 3 months after drying/curing. I find freshly dried buds are often a bit disappointing, and kept under optimum conditions buds will often surprise you with a king-hit a year later. never did quite understand this, but concentrating the cannabinoids merely through further drying probably accounts for it. I have had up until recently, vacuum sealed jars of various strains that were 5/6/7 years old and still fine. I like having some vintage stock for variety.
to sum up "keep the best, reject the rest".
feel free to fire any questions at me.
I check in at least once a day now.
visiting AFN has become a nice way to start my day. coffee is kind of essential too.

 

[knocker powell]

No Problem Knocker, but really I am no expert; its just a matter of a lot of testing, male and female tops after alternate phyllotaxy has started.
discard any that have that "something missing" element and of course rejecting any poorly performing individuals. a certain amount of post-harvest adjudicating is recommended; in other words, seeding some possible keepers and deciding whether or not they are good enough at a later stage; preferably at least 3 months after drying/curing. I find freshly dried buds are often a bit disappointing, and kept under optimum conditions buds will often surprise you with a king-hit a year later. never did quite understand this, but concentrating the cannabinoids merely through further drying probably accounts for it. I have had up until recently, vacuum sealed jars of various strains that were 5/6/7 years old and still fine. I like having some vintage stock for variety.
to sum up "keep the best, reject the rest".
feel free to fire any questions at me.
I check in at least once a day now.
visiting AFN has become a nice way to start my day. coffee is kind of essential too.

That is very kind of you, Oldbie, thank you. I too love the idea of having 'some vintage stock for variety' - I really wanted to grow my own as I'm really fed up of buying 'what's knocking about' There is absolutely no choice. I really love sativa's but most people who are selling (IMO) don't know what it is they have. It's really frustrating. There's no idea what the strain is, how it was grown, what it was or wasn't fed. And the price of an oz here is between £250 and £300 so it's a risky venture as to the quality of what you're buying. Last year was the first that I tried growing my own. I did 3 lowryders in the back garden and whilst they weren't huge yielders, the smoke off them was beautiful. In part I guess from the satisfaction that I'd raised them myself but also from the fact that I knew exactly what the strain was and what had gone into it. The sooner we drop our draconian laws regarding cannabis in this country the better. am very envious of the way the US is dealing with this!

Thanks again for your reply. I shall be picking your brains again no doubt. And enjoy your coffee! It's the best drink of the day. Cheers to you! all the best, Knocker.

 

[Oldbie]

you're very welcome Knocker,
its nice to have a bit of chat going; so many people don't seem to have any interest; not a criticism, more a perplexed musing.
firstly I want to correct a mistake I made in an earlier post; the white widow I have is NOT from Pyramid seeds but Nirvana. I have Tutankhamon from Pyramid.
WW is flying. day 25 from seed sprout and it is 17"/432mm. at this rate I might have to consider some LST but these days I am happy to sacrifice the higher yield for letting the plant express itself naturally.
£250-£300 an ounce??? WHOA DADDY! am I out of touch. I honestly cant remember the last time I bought weed; its got to be over 20 years ago.
I am simply not comfortable with the idea of consuming any variety unless I know it has been grown safely, without poisons, dusted with ground glass etc; also I have no desire to support criminal gangs and their dubious activities.
I have to say I love growing my own weed and at this stage I am honest enough with myself to say, I cant stop; its an addiction in itself!
was it Low Ryder original or Low Ryder 2???. I haven't tried either, but most of the dwarf autos seem to have LR2 as their ruderalis contribution.
haven't seen either going at a reasonable price though.
I wonder how Pathway is getting on?
seems appropriate to ask seeing I have just realised its his/her thread.
well Pathway, what's the latest???

 

[knocker powell]

indeed it is! Don't know Pyramid or Nirvana - they sound like a good recommend though. your thoughts on yield are interesting - maybe it's an indictment of how we live today: MORE, BIGGER, BETTER! I don't know. Very possibly because I'm new to growing, it hasn't become an issue with me. yet! I'll be overjoyed just to bring in a few, happy, healthy plants - I have to say that I agree with you regarding the addiction of growing. Doing this has really set off an interest in gardening in general and I'm spending a lot of time just checking the regular plants and their growth patterns - although this is almost certainly me trying to justify (to my neighbours) why i'm spending so much time peering and prodding my six 'mystery' plants! - It does make me a little nervous but we live in London and I think that the police generally have more pressing concerns than some dude growing a bit of personal in his back garden. I do think that this winter I'll be launching a bijou indoor growing facility though.

Yes, the unsavory side of buying weed is a big issue for me, too. Unfortunately, it's been the only way for me to get hold of green for the longest time. Who'd a thunk that the internet could be responsible for helping people to step away from the unregulated black market and to take control of the production of their own weed?! God bless you Autoflower.net! It's like I say to my wife 'you see, the internet isn't just there for pornography!' That's a joke by the way. She'll probably read this!

I have a feel that it was Lowryder 1. I bought the seeds in a hurry whilst in amsterdam in may last year - the local herb had made me forget the one thing that i really wanted to do which was to source some decent seeds and so I hurriedly grabbed a pack on the way back to the airport. plus I wasn't really armed with any knowledge, I think it was a little bit before I discovered autoflower.net so didn't have access to this wonderful 'hive mind' The seeds I'm running at the moment are from Dutch Passion and I'm super keen to have a go at some Mephisto Genetics. I really like the look of them and have been following their story. They seem like really, good honest and dedicated guys.

Yes, Pathway. apologies for the mini-jacking of your thread.

Oldbie, lovely talking to you. Enjoy your coffee, I'm about to go and make an Aeropress. The finest coffee making device known to man. Maybe. Have a great day, sir. Cheers! KP.

 

[moutros]

No Problem Knocker, but really I am no expert; its just a matter of a lot of testing, male and female tops after alternate phyllotaxy has started.
discard any that have that "something missing" element and of course rejecting any poorly performing individuals. a certain amount of post-harvest adjudicating is recommended; in other words, seeding some possible keepers and deciding whether or not they are good enough at a later stage; preferably at least 3 months after drying/curing. I find freshly dried buds are often a bit disappointing, and kept under optimum conditions buds will often surprise you with a king-hit a year later. never did quite understand this, but concentrating the cannabinoids merely through further drying probably accounts for it. I have had up until recently, vacuum sealed jars of various strains that were 5/6/7 years old and still fine. I like having some vintage stock for variety.
to sum up "keep the best, reject the rest".
feel free to fire any questions at me.
I check in at least once a day now.
visiting AFN has become a nice way to start my day. coffee is kind of essential too.

Hey guys i'm gonna jump in your conversation and say a couple of arguments myself. In a lot of threads about breeding i always see the mention of keeping the best plants and discarding the rest, well in my limited experience on the subject- more specifically i have bred mi5s and the next year i crossed mi5s with a northern lightsxbig bud feminised strain that i had- and because i do the breeding in fall(no indoor facilities, all outdoor) the weather is not ideal and the plants that end up making the seeds and the male are always tiny miserable plants that just manage to give me maybe 20-25 seeds each. Short thin really miserable plants. Well to finish my sentence in this limited experience i found out that even if the plants giving the seeds would really be considered as plants to be discarded the seeds i got turned out to be the best plants i grew after that, no hermies, tall and very productive plants. So-and that doesnt mean to say everyone else is wrong- but i'm not sure if it really matters how strong the parents were or just the dna that is in the plant and the conditions grown. Hope that made sense.

That is very kind of you, Oldbie, thank you. I too love the idea of having 'some vintage stock for variety' - I really wanted to grow my own as I'm really fed up of buying 'what's knocking about' There is absolutely no choice. I really love sativa's but most people who are selling (IMO) don't know what it is they have. It's really frustrating. There's no idea what the strain is, how it was grown, what it was or wasn't fed. And the price of an oz here is between £250 and £300 so it's a risky venture as to the quality of what you're buying. Last year was the first that I tried growing my own. I did 3 lowryders in the back garden and whilst they weren't huge yielders, the smoke off them was beautiful. In part I guess from the satisfaction that I'd raised them myself but also from the fact that I knew exactly what the strain was and what had gone into it. The sooner we drop our draconian laws regarding cannabis in this country the better. am very envious of the way the US is dealing with this!

Thanks again for your reply. I shall be picking your brains again no doubt. And enjoy your coffee! It's the best drink of the day. Cheers to you! all the best, Knocker.

I also haven't bought weed for almost a decade now. I saw a documentary i remember from an english woman going around the world and trying stuff and it really opened my eyes. She went to amsterdam and she did all those tests on cannabis and when i saw what sellers were doing too make the weed ''stronger'' and all the additives they were using and especially( couldnt believe it!!) that there have been people using tiny shards of glass on the weed so that it looks like it has all these nice crystals, i got disgusted and decided that either i smoke real pure mama earth weed or just stop smoking it. In the end i ended up doing my own.

 

[knocker powell]

Hey guys i'm gonna jump in your conversation and say a couple of arguments myself. In a lot of threads about breeding i always see the mention of keeping the best plants and discarding the rest, well in my limited experience on the subject- more specifically i have bred mi5s and the next year i crossed mi5s with a northern lightsxbig bud feminised strain that i had- and because i do the breeding in fall(no indoor facilities, all outdoor) the weather is not ideal and the plants that end up making the seeds and the male are always tiny miserable plants that just manage to give me maybe 20-25 seeds each. Short thin really miserable plants. Well to finish my sentence in this limited experience i found out that even if the plants giving the seeds would really be considered as plants to be discarded the seeds i got turned out to be the best plants i grew after that, no hermies, tall and very productive plants. So-and that doesnt mean to say everyone else is wrong- but i'm not sure if it really matters how strong the parents were or just the dna that is in the plant and the conditions grown. Hope that made sense.

that makes absolute sense, moutros. i guess much like life, the rules are there are no rules! you just gotta find something that works for you nd go with that. that's why i love it so much on this site - so many great bits of advice, so many people willing to give up a bit of time to help others. you gotta love it!

I also haven't bought weed for almost a decade now. I saw a documentary i remember from an english woman going around the world and trying stuff and it really opened my eyes. She went to amsterdam and she did all those tests on cannabis and when i saw what sellers were doing too make the weed ''stronger'' and all the additives they were using and especially( couldnt believe it!!) that there have been people using tiny shards of glass on the weed so that it looks like it has all these nice crystals, i got disgusted and decided that either i smoke real pure mama earth weed or just stop smoking it. In the end i ended up doing my own.

you don't remember the name of that doc do you ?

so you out in spain? - feels like everybodies going over there. you from the uk originally?