Trim SCROG?!

[Mañ'O'Green]

I see a couple of possibilities for your troubles. Allowing the run-off to be reabsorbed by wicking means All of the fertilizer salts have been brought back into the root zone where you have built up a toxic level in the pots. It is supposed to run to waste. Using your regular blend of nutrients for the maturity of the plants at 50% strength flush the pots to about 50% run-off to waste. Pump it out if you have to. Second wicking can lead to soggy soil in the pots and this allows root rot. Smell your soil if it is sour you may have root rot. Botinicare HydroGuard will fix that in short order and I would use it even if the pots do not smell sour just based on what was taking place.

I cannot see how well you opened the plants with defo but the main idea here is airflow. With buds packed in densely in a SCROG they are more susceptible to bud rot so it is imperative to make sure you have good air flow through-out the canopy and underneath. I think you can fix all of this before harvest. I have actually harvested a good crop from plants that looked worse. Hang in there for the most part you have done well.

 

[iman]

I see a couple of possibilities for your troubles. Allowing the run-off to be reabsorbed by wicking means All of the fertilizer salts have been brought back into the root zone where you have built up a toxic level in the pots. It is supposed to run to waste. Using your regular blend of nutrients for the maturity of the plants at 50% strength flush the pots to about 50% run-off to waste. Pump it out if you have to. Second wicking can lead to soggy soil in the pots and this allows root rot. Smell your soil if it is sour you may have root rot. Botinicare HydroGuard will fix that in short order and I would use it even if the pots do not smell sour just based on what was taking place.

I cannot see how well you opened the plants with defo but the main idea here is airflow. With buds packed in densely in a SCROG they are more susceptible to bud rot so it is imperative to make sure you have good air flow through-out the canopy and underneath. I think you can fix all of this before harvest. I have actually harvested a good crop from plants that looked worse. Hang in there for the most part you have done well.

Thanks for your reply, the grow shop told me to use these fabric pots with an inch of clay balls in the bottom so they didn’t sit in run off but they must be wicking, I gave them all 4 litres of plain water when they still felt heavy today and there was a lot of runoff but when I checked about 5 hours later all the runoff was gone. I did 2 grows before to make RSO for dad and that’s all I have done but they went ok so I stuck with all same methods nutes except I needed smaller pots last time I had air pots. Also presumed my water was ok with the Dutch Pro nutes.
Air wise I am 27-30c with light on 18-24c off (20/4) humidity ranges between 48-60%
i have a fan underneath lolly popped bottom and one across the canopy. There is a picture but it’s not great from a few weeks ago attached.
Thanks

 

[iman]

Just had a thought, I could raise the net and set them all on bricks so they have no access to run off and I can try and recover it. Maybe flush with clean water?

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Thanks for your reply, the grow shop told me to use these fabric pots with an inch of clay balls in the bottom so they didn’t sit in run off but they must be wicking, I gave them all 4 litres of plain water when they still felt heavy today and there was a lot of runoff but when I checked about 5 hours later all the runoff was gone. I did 2 grows before to make RSO for dad and that’s all I have done but they went ok so I stuck with all same methods nutes except I needed smaller pots last time I had air pots. Also presumed my water was ok with the Dutch Pro nutes.
Air wise I am 27-30c with light on 18-24c off (20/4) humidity ranges between 48-60%
i have a fan underneath lolly popped bottom and one across the canopy. There is a picture but it’s not great from a few weeks ago attached.
Thanks View attachment 1163764

Yep, those fabric pots are wicking the runoff right back into the pot. So every bit of the fertilize you have applied to the grow is in the pots (other than what the plants have used). You need to fix this.

 

[iman]

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Yep, those fabric pots are wicking the runoff right back into the pot. So every bit of the fertilize you have applied to the grow is in the pots (other than what the plants have used). You need to fix this.

when I cure this should I flood plain de gassed water through to get decent runoff? Even if they had plain water yesterday? Im in UK so going to bed soon so plan to take action tomorrow. I may also do more defoliation.
Thanks

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

I do not believe in flushing in most cases. I consider it a last ditch effort to correct a problem that cannot be solved in any other way. You do not want to wash all of the beneficial microbes that live in the pots out and you do not want to flush all of the nutrients out either. I recommend flushing with a 50% strength nutrient solution and do so until you get a decent run-off. Just be sure to get that run-off away from the pots. Use it in your gardens outside. It will be very potent. You may need to do it a couple of times on your regular water schedule to get it down to where you want it. If you have Mykos or other beneficial microbes add them to the 50% flush as well.

 

[Builder0101]

Honestly I think you have done a tremendous job. they look wonderful. one thing you have 10 pots all jammed together which is perfectly fine. They are going to dry more slowly. I may water the perimeter. The edges facing outward of the outermost pots more frequently. Just to prevent dry pockets there. Or rotate the outer pots 180° midway between waterings. There are plenty of growers who wish for the results I see there.

 

[iman]

I do not believe in flushing in most cases. I consider it a last ditch effort to correct a problem that cannot be solved in any other way. You do not want to wash all of the beneficial microbes that live in the pots out and you do not want to flush all of the nutrients out either. I recommend flushing with a 50% strength nutrient solution and do so until you get a decent run-off. Just be sure to get that run-off away from the pots. Use it in your gardens outside. It will be very potent. You may need to do it a couple of times on your regular water schedule to get it down to where you want it. If you have Mykos or other beneficial microbes add them to the 50% flush as well.

Ok thanks I will do that today, Can I also do more de foliation?
Appreciate all the advice

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Ok thanks I will do that today, Can I also do more de foliation?
Appreciate all the advice

I would hold off on defoliation for a few days to give the plants a breather. But if airflow is a problem be sure to do a little at a time after a couple of days until the air flow is good. I just did my grow today:

Before:

After:

 

[iman]

I would hold off on defoliation for a few days to give the plants a breather. But if airflow is a problem be sure to do a little at a time after a couple of days until the air flow is good. I just did my grow today:

Before:
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After:

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Great thanks, I’ll let you know how I get on.