Old Reviews The Vapor Chamber Chat Thread.

[Weedman30]

Thanks @pop22. Iv been using around 375 first few rips then up to 435. If I go all the way up its like 800f and burns the shit outta the weed as its for concentrates as well. If I go above 450 it gets a burnt taste.

Il tell you what though I enjoy vaping so far.

 

[pop22]

DAMN! thats crazy! most go to about 415F

Thanks @pop22. Iv been using around 375 first few rips then up to 435. If I go all the way up its like 800f and burns the shit outta the weed as its for concentrates as well. If I go above 450 it gets a burnt taste.

Il tell you what though I enjoy gaping so far.

 

[pop22]

The DaVinci ascent has a bong adapter, so there you go!

Salutations,





You should be glad BayLee420! The problem isn't a lack of afinity for a specific model, obviously you like your portable. Lucky you!!

Unfortunately there are persons as myself who will react promptly to cannabic dryness and although the iOlite is powered by butane i don't suppose its owners are expected to inhale burned butane exhaust, which implies unlike my modded VG pipe there's no "self-conditioning" effect because butane is excluded from the lungs path. Please correct me if i'm mistaking.

So, just as with a jumbo Solo or anything else electric, even the venerable Volcano or whatever, a guy like me will still need his electric-dry cannabic vapor to be moisturized but much like preservatives it's not exactly the same. I've evaluated post-vaporization moisturizing compared to self-conditioning, one adds water vapor to the cannabic stream while the other generates such a stream as the proper burning of butane performs a transformation where the gas turns into Energy + CO2 + H2O and possibly potential contaminants. It will sound redundant but i thought i'd repeat that again... So, what this implies is it's not the same to vape using my modded pipe where butane is transformed right ahead of the lungs path, compared to dry air that is easier to heat up and hence i gather hot dry air that was easier to heat up also carries less energy as a trade-off. As a result anything dry will be slow, require a water toy and yet never rival with the level of comfort i gain from vaporizing my cannabic bowl with a hot stream (CO2 + H2O): my modded pipe delays discomfort efficiently while water toys only tame down the abrasive element at best. Even with water vapor added something is missing, using the pipe i realize it must be about the carrier instead of the load. A hot stream of moist air heated to ~192 °C or so presumably improves thermalization time when compared to an equally hot jet of air, i'd think it's about energy density. But electric dryness usually comes with slowliness while the benefit of a denser energy stream as cannabic carrier may become evident only if dealing with a VaporGenie or similar pipe where butane is transformed by a burning reaction before it enters the lungs path. 2 very different scenarios.

Briefly put i'd need to install an iOlite on top of water glassware just the same as with my table configuration. Additionally, this wouldn't make the cannabic vapor as pleasant as the pipe does, E.G. being able to withstand it at all, etc. My HA + Arizer Solo hybrid contraption feels so dry i start couphing instantly, stream vaporization appears to improve that situation by providing some additional delay, enough to enjoy a toke satisfyingly. That's a world of difference.

By chance i read lately that a manufacturer will offer a portable vape with integrated water tank. In a couple years maybe i can hope there will be a decent selection of offers, as i'd like my toy to perform near-instant pre-heating, etc. In short, Induction Heat of course!



Meanwhile it is you mister BayLee420 who's lucky to find what's needed, though we could wish you it will gain reliability after a while, eventually. Self-moisturization for the iOlite might even become an option in the future, go figure!

 

[pop22]

The DaVinci Ascent puts the mighty/crafty to shame! great vapor production, all glass airpath, and long battery life! The taste is amazing also! and it cost 1/2 of what a Mighty goes for!

Just a few thoughts on some of the latest portables
The Fly is the bomb on flavour and a powerful piece of kit,has a learning curve but that just makes it more immersive when you are one with the vapour. The Crafty rips holes in the space time continuum but units are unreliable at the moment. And the air delivers amazing tasting vapour with power and finesse and is the best for sessions and conservation of herbs also very portable and stealthy. That's right you need all three! I'm waiting for a revision of the Crafty however. It's amazingly powerful and great to share because it rips through material fast and produces an amazing effect![emoji2]

 

[Chester]

In the near future I'll be getting a Bag vape (Airizer Extreme Q) ... If I need moisture I'll inhale it thru a bong ... I've been using a small glass blunt lately when I want to smoke and it's very smooth and mild ... a hit or two gets me higher than I've been in years ... http://www.brotherswithglass.com/searchresults.asp?Submit=Go&Search=blunt

 

[pop22]

I'd like an Extreme Q! So far though, the two of us do fine with the Davinci Ascent. You can use a whip with the Extreme Q also.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah Im in the market for a good piece.I like the Davinci so far too. ill be getting one soon'ish.

 

[BR549]

My Da Vinci Ascent arrived today! Got it charged and have been trying it out. I'm pretty new to this, so I'm sitting here in a state of complete astonishment. I had no idea weed tasted this good! (I'm also feeling pretty cocky right now. I figured out that I needed to push the glass tube down before I set the unit down. Normally I would have broken this one and the spare before figuring that out!)

 

[pop22]

Get a vape you can connect to a bong..........theirs your perfect injection of water vapor!

Salutations,



It must feel good knowing what you need exactly.

Personally i find myself condemned to invent my own vaporizer, since we're still in the dark ages. Any moisture would be nice but i can't stop thinking about emulation of the gas stream in a VaporGenie pipe while burning butane cleanly, never touching the flame.

Actually i believe water vapor generated in the butane-burning process carries a significant amount of additional heat when compared to dry air. Now speaking of which let's have a look at what i got for torid electric-dry mode:

That's a combo. Half HerbalAire, half Arizer Solo - a mutant with a twist...

Somehow it merges together the best in both units. So with a setup like that i don't really need to wonder how its like to use a "perfect" Arizer Solo, as i got something similar with real serious oven capacity.

There are 2 ways to use my torid electric-dry contraption exactly: a) suck grinded material into the Arizer Solo glass bowl; b) drop whole nugget parts into the HerbalAire crucible before insertion on the glass wand. I prefer the later choice but this is wasteful...

I've tried to inject moisturized air into the HerbalAire and it only provided me a glimpse what it could be. Sufficient power in a proper layout should prove stimulating, that would be like a pipe's self-conditioned cannabic vapor without the butane variables.



The dry/moist comparison thing is something i perform routinely as i like to switch between the table vaporizer and my modded VG pipe often, consequently i'm now curious to see equivalent inlet water conditioning implemented, eventually; instead of dry air it would be driven by moist air which required more energy to reach cannabic vaporization temperature because of the water, presumably...

In my portable device the butane gas is transformed into energy carried away by a stream containing CO2 + H2O plus some potential contaminants, in my table unit only dry air is heated externally while there's no such composite stream carrying energy. To conclude i figure an efficiency boost would result from stream vaporisation emulating my pipe though without using butane, dry air is bound to be fainter and dryness renders me genuinely miserable anyway... Imagine an electric/electronic portable!

Good day, have fun!!

 

[pop22]

I've discovered that you can get hits that will make cough like hitting a pipe! Just pack the bowl tight and set it to 380! I wouldn't trade my Ascent for any other vape! It kicks the shit out of Storz and Bickel's Crafty or Mighty. I rarely even use my Mighty anymore! Pack it till the chamber looks 3/4 full and you won't get weed blocking the filter often. I've stopped using screens.

My Da Vinci Ascent arrived today! Got it charged and have been trying it out. I'm pretty new to this, so I'm sitting here in a state of complete astonishment. I had no idea weed tasted this good! (I'm also feeling pretty cocky right now. I figured out that I needed to push the glass tube down before I set the unit down. Normally I would have broken this one and the spare before figuring that out!)