Well Pepe I really think afn needs the assistance with DIY considering how popular it's becoming. After building and studying cobs and cob tech non stop over the last 6 months i have been helping out the DIY section as much as possible lately. Way to many poor lighting decisions going on and companies like Amare are getting overlooked for by budget blurple panels. I noticed you popped in to the DIY section, a lot of good reading there. My 3 se-450's and 2 pro4's are the light source but DIY fills in perfectly for side lighting or cheaper supplemental.