New Grower SPZ's Sour Livers Triple Automatic Grow

great start my man... subbing up :pop:

Thanks for stopping in @Slater, good to see you :pass:

Aye, exactly like you do..... I use the wife's make-up cotton pads, they're like double layer or some such, round and just the right thickness..... That way, when the tappies has reached the desired straight length, the filament hair roots are imbedded in the cotton pads, cut the pads into rectangular pieces suitable for sliding into a square-ish planting hole as the pot is held at an 45 degree angle or so.....still angled, fill gently with a little dry sand to keep the cotton cut-out in its rightful vertical upright position.... Return the pot to its normal resting orientation, and tamp down the medium very delicately, in my case coco, so the bean is just barely visible.....

I like a 15-20 mm long straight taproot and the beans spends a night or so in a glass of water, until sunk and a white swelling protrusion validates their flight clearance.... And yeah, the beans get rolled in and them cotton pads get dusted with Great White myco powder before disappearing.... And Orca, the liquid equivalent, is used during all wetting and rehydration efforts until week 2 or so together with a mild dash of Supervit, some root boosting whatever product I happen to have at hand, surfactant, Bioworm juice and FloraNova Bloom at 1/4 strength...... Note to self, get some pics of this!

Aye, suppose we all have our little quirky ways of getting the mundane stuff done....

Cutting a Root-It foam cube in half, inserting the cotton pad, reassemble with elastic bands or some strings works too and protects better so easier, but adds a step....

Thanks for the detailed description, @Corgy. Despite the success so far, I will definitely be revisiting my germination techniques next time. Transplanting the seeds with tweezers just felt too fussy and error prone, so it may be worth a few extra steps to make it foolproof (the fool being me in this scenario).

hey bro congrats on the set up! clearly done your research there. your all set to grow some monsters! lookin good man think ill pull up a chair for this one
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Welcome, @EvilScotsman, I have indeed been scouring the forums, hopefully I can stay out of the way and let these girls do their thing :welcome:


Thanks for the tag as I am fine tuning my setup and these will be my first plants in the new setup.


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Sweet, I picked these because no one in my crew has ever heard of the Livers, while apparently it is a popular strain with a long lineage. Mephisto rates Sour Livers 10/10 so there must be something to it :jointman:



Thanks for all the support everyone, with the AFN crew here I feel like I've got a full team backing me up with this project :thanks:
 
A quick update, all four seedlings have cracked the surface as of this morning. Here's a shot of all four pots. The seedlings are visible if you zoom in
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Here is the first one that popped with a view of the thermometer/hygrometer, the environment is perfect for seedlings, but I'll have to dial back the humidity later
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The gal in the rear left-hand quadrant has not shed her helmet yet. I planted the seeds little deeper than some because I read it would help ensure this didn't happen, but it did anyway, lol. I'll give her another day or so pop out on her own, hopefully it doesn't come down to removing the casing with tweezers
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Will be watching! Looking great so far!
Sour livers....did some reading on those, will have to get those going this fall!
 
One other thing, I've four AutoCobs going 24/0 about 18" above each plant. This seems to be the ideal distance to maintain temperature for my seedlings and I read that this about the minimum distance for the AutoCobs without risking light burn. I won't turn on the other two cobs until there are a few more leaves to soak in the rays :cool1:
 
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The gal in the rear left-hand quadrant has not shed her helmet yet. I planted the seeds little deeper than some because I read it would help ensure this didn't happen, but it did anyway, lol. I'll give her another day or so pop out on her own, hopefully it doesn't come down to removing the casing with tweezers
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I expect you know, but if you do need to remove the casing give a good mist of water first, wait a couple of minutes and then do it. It helps soften it, and there's a better chance you won't damage the cotyledons.

One other thing, I've four AutoCobs going 24/0 about 18" above each plant. This seems to be the ideal distance to maintain temperature for my seedlings and I read that this about the minimum distance for the AutoCobs without risking light burn. I won't turn on the other two cobs until there are a few more leaves to soak in the rays :cool1:
They are really intense, and the coverage for each one is 2x2 feet. I think they may still be a bit low for seedlings, you might want to raise them to 26" and use something different to add heat if you need to. Just my opinion! :pass:
 
I expect you know, but if you do need to remove the casing give a good mist of water first, wait a couple of minutes and then do it. It helps soften it, and there's a better chance you won't damage the cotyledons.

Haha don't assume I know anything! Hadn't heard this so I will definitely spray if I need to intervene with tweezers. I would think a little moistening might help it bust out on its own, too. Also now I will be looking up cotyledons lol.

I expect you know, but if you do need to remove the casing give a good mist of water first, wait a couple of minutes and then do it. It helps soften it, and there's a better chance you won't damage the cotyledons.


They are really intense, and the coverage for each one is 2x2 feet. I think they may still be a bit low for seedlings, you might want to raise them to 26" and use something different to add heat if you need to. Just my opinion! :pass:

I was feeling like 18" might be a little bright, that's why I brought it up. I will say that as great as the light is, the Autocobs do not make good heat lamps! It is pretty funny think of adding heat on a hot July day! I moved the cobs to 24" and the temp at plant level went down to 70F, just at the bottom of seedling range by my understanding. When I grow in the winter I will definitely need to add some heat to the tent, maybe a 40-60W incandescent bulb, heating mat, space heater... still trying to decide the best route.
 
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It doesn't matter which route route you go, each W used in the tent is heat, including every W from the COB's..... Light is heat too....

Agreed, from a conservation of energy standpoint. What I've been thinking is that the cobs are releasing most of their energy from the heat sink. As they are hanging above the plants, and the airflow in the tent goes from floor to ceiling, much of the heat is getting whisked out the exhaust vent (as designed!). Therefore to heat up the tent it would make most sense to blow down the air from the lights or heat the tent with a mat on the floor or heated air going into the intake.

This is pure stoned speculation mind you :stir:

And I'm happy to report that it is a moot point. This evening I peeked at the ladies and it looks like the temps are comfortably locked at 72F with the lights at 24", they only go down 70F when I open the tent door for more than a few minutes, lol. I think it's a prime example of rule [HASHTAG]#10[/HASHTAG] from What NOT to do: CJ Soma's guide to Noobs: "Checking/Harassing my ladies every 5 mins." If the temp goes down two degrees every time I open the tent door I should probably try to keep it zipped up :wall:
 
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