Indoor Growing Scrog

I'm autistic, I need absolute rules.

I need our Lord to write the 10 Commandments of Defoliation

The followers shall perform the ritual and observe the miracle

I'll get to burning that bush.
Leaf tucking and selective defoliation starting around day 17 and then by day 25 when I have an established root system I start defoliating at least once a day and continue leaf tucking. I give them a complete schwazz while I’m prepping for the net and 2 more times in flower with a couple weeks in between. Heavy defoliations are done a week after every schwazz and all the leaves are pretty much gone after the third schwazz including some of the sugar leaves.
 
Sorry for the late reply. The lights just about fit in the 2x4, the blocks are just set up between the lights so everything looks even. I don't measure the distances between them, just by eye.

As for the distance I have the lights above the canopy, I start of at approximately 50cm. The lights are on full blast, 24/7 they only draw 220w from the board so are cheap to run. Having the lights on like this also helps keep the environment stable.

Once the plants are framed up I lower the lights to about 40cm, I've never used a light meter, it's all just done by feel.

Don't worry about short thick stems, the thicker stems will be able to carry more nutrients a shorter distance. Short stems for this method are actually desirable :thumbsup:
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Hope all is well with you Buddy! :lol:

All good here my man, up and running now but had a slow start germinating my old seeds. I managed to get a WG3 and a Nightmare to pop, which are now in the tent, currently on Day 6 and doing well.
 
Hope all is well with you Buddy! :lol:

All good here my man, up and running now but had a slow start germinating my old seeds. I managed to get a WG3 and a Nightmare to pop, which are now in the tent, currently on Day 6 and doing well.
My Dutch Passion seeds did not fulfill. They all opened but did not present tap roots, even after 14 days. I've had this happen before, but I'm a rookie, I don't know, This might be helpful. At YouTube, search ...

Improved Cannabis Seed Germination with Hydrogen Peroxide​

 
My Dutch Passion seeds did not fulfill. They all opened but did not present tap roots, even after 14 days. I've had this happen before, but I'm a rookie, I don't know, This might be helpful. At YouTube, search ...

Improved Cannabis Seed Germination with Hydrogen Peroxide​

I too regularly have some seeds that sprout but in their final full-size pot never put out any tap or other long roots, despite even bottom feeding.

This is a problem I don't recall ever being discussed? Is this genetic, some plants or strains just don't root as well as others, or is this somehow linked to growing conditions (but with this occurring even with optimal conditions, with neighbor plants not having this problem).
 
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Nice Bro!
Love your simple setup and great job on your first 420 scrog. Looks like you have some ginormous colas stacking and forming. I think this is the first time I’m seeing it done in DWC. Will be interesting to see her develop and flower over the next 8 weeks. :eyebrows:

He... he knows my name... 😍 :worship::yay::jump:

Sorry, could not resist - I'm really fan-girling out right now. I'll try not to disappoint you (too badly), oh master :bow: I just added some more pics today in my Lemon Kix thread, if you get bored feel free to check them out for an update.

And really, thanks man, plus it's awesome to see that you still have that same passion for trying dumb shit as me. Keep things fun.


I'm autistic, I need absolute rules.

I need our Lord to write the 10 Commandments of Defoliation

The followers shall perform the ritual and observe the miracle

I'll get to burning that bush.

Thou shalt not leave untouched a single leaf with a stem long enough to be cut, or thine yields shall burn in hell for eternity.

That's my method now, for 420AF style grows anyway: cut only when the plant is a thick, wet mess, but then cut EVERYTHING. Don't leave a single leaf on, that has a stem long enough to fit scissors on. Also I mark where I have already finished by cutting the remaining mini-leaves in half.

The plant doesn't give a shit, it already started growing all leaves back two days later. If she keeps her speed up I'll be doing the same thing for another 4 hours in about 5 days or so.
 
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My Dutch Passion seeds did not fulfill. They all opened but did not present tap roots, even after 14 days. I've had this happen before, but I'm a rookie, I don't know, This might be helpful. At YouTube, search ...

Improved Cannabis Seed Germination with Hydrogen Peroxide​

It's how I've kept them, it's not really the seeds. I've heard about using peroxide but fresh seeds if you have them are best. I always imprint my seeds to tailor them specifically for my genetic make up, so I try to avoid any bleaching, sterilising agents in that process.
 
Hey mate, the grow/plants look very healthy, definitely a nice job! :toke:

Only thing I keep on asking myself is why there are so many growers, including you, that use support-nets as their SCROG-net? I ofc don't want to be rude, but what you are doing is more bending/(super)cropping in combination with a support net so the plants stay upright and with an even canopy. I bet if you take away the net they would probably stay in the same position. With some varieties, with strong stems, you wouldn't probably need the net and grow them freely exactly the same way. But don't get me wrong mate, you do an excellent job at maintaining a healthy and vibrant canopy, and they look really on point and dialed in!

Personally my idea of a SCROG and I have been doing that from the start of my 'career' is to have a strong net (from metal) with smaller holes, usually 5x5cm, so there are many spots/crossroads on the net, to fix them to with tie-rips. This way you can even spread them better and get more buds. The net you are using (support-net) can be used on top to keep the cola's from bending over late flowering. But hey, maybe it is just me that thinks that way, or I am already considered and old-school grower haha.

You should really give it a shot with a real SCROG net, some use chicken wires netting, but tbh the holes are usually too big, and when you take the chicken wire fence net, too small. So the best tip is to use this : https://www.elektramat.nl/jmv-aardm...MItMnT2-eU_gIV_4ODBx1h6QfKEAQYASABEgLJFPD_BwE

In Dutch they called it a Aarde mat - it is used in bathrooms, flooring etc. It will transform your SCROG experience! When I think of it, I'll share a few pics of SCROG's done with this type of netting.


Nice big plant mate, well done, shame about the budrot, you see that backbud in the picture, completely brown already ;-) First time seeing our Auto Trichome & Cream foxtailing like this, looking at the rest of the bud structure, it kinda looks like a second bloom phase. Could be the environmental conditions, what do you think?



Again, solid growing mate! Regarding that test you spoke about, with doing one room with heavy defol and the other without, are you planning to do that with clones or not?

Using (autoflower)plants from seed will definitely not give you the right data to work with. I love the idea, and would love to see it being done, but hopefully you can do it with clones and have 2 rooms that are exactly the same, same equipment, same climate etc.
Anyways, keep it up, and if you are ever looking for some genetics to try out, just holla at me! :pass:
Whats up @Antonio_DutchPassion , amazon carries this 2”x2” metal screen in 2’x25-50’ rolls or 4’x25-50’ rolls. Its very cheap and in the US it is way less expensive than the product you mentioned above. I will be using it in my next scrog with the Blue Zushi and SLIC😁🔥 https://www.amazon.com/GILPWA-Fence-Welded-Vegetable-Protection/dp/B0CQSFV4LH/ref=pd_aw_ci_mcx_mh_mcx_views_0_title?pd_rd_w=Mt8is&content-id=amzn1.sym.3aeff048-319d-41ad-90b3-930df51a9ea3:amzn1.symc.cb15e6ef-dda0-4490-a93d-da66403ab544&pf_rd_p=3aeff048-319d-41ad-90b3-930df51a9ea3&pf_rd_r=G49MSC124STWHW2S0ENB&pd_rd_wg=UAY85&pd_rd_r=8cba2451-68df-4307-b2c0-a2101a04e157&pd_rd_i=B0D45L8X1K&th=1&psc=1
 
It's how I've kept them, it's not really the seeds. I've heard about using peroxide but fresh seeds if you have them are best. I always imprint my seeds to tailor them specifically for my genetic make up, so I try to avoid any bleaching, sterilising agents in that process.
Do you use your saliva during the germ process to imprint? I read an article about the people that made Pinkleberry and the lady in the article recommended using a bit of saliva in your water when presoaking to imprint your dna on the plant. Thought it was really interesting, still havent tried it as i find my seeds too precious to spit on lol, but thought it was interesting.
 
Do you use your saliva during the germ process to imprint? I read an article about the people that made Pinkleberry and the lady in the article recommended using a bit of saliva in your water when presoaking to imprint your dna on the plant. Thought it was really interesting, still havent tried it as i find my seeds too precious to spit on lol, but thought it was interesting.
Human genetic imprinting of plants by applying spit to seeds? Not going to happen. For some, this 'imprinting" may help them 'bond' with their plants, and it's harmless. But it's not going to alter the seeds or their genetic material.

How does DNA, a huge molecule (I recall human DNA is 6 ft. long if stretched out/uncurled) or even portions, get through the thick seed covering (with water often even having a hard time) and other layers protecting the seed's germplasm/genetic material? Then how does the DNA get into relevant germplasm cells and then the cells' nuclei, survive digestion by cellular enzymes, and "imprint" the seed's genetic material?

Otherwise, "genetic imprinting" already has its own technical definition, not at all related to what is implied here.
 
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