Dutch Passion DP Ultimates first

did you see what the top shooter overdrive type auxin chem stims did to the DesFran flowers ??............... lots of micro bud spirals. Coming up off the bud crowns................. shooting them all into spirals............ if you dont want that, drop the overdirive and swap it out for "Pk13/14".................. you wont get the foxtailing bud spirals that way, just plump fruits, with all the energy going into "Trichome manufacture"........ i prefer the non auxin chem stims, au natural bud,................ with no spirals............... but each to their own white yea .... ALR
Yeah, I agree.... the use of Overdrive, Top Shooter and BAC F1 Extreme... all late flowering boosters... all cause foxtailing.
Now a little bit of foxtailing will increase the yield, but the quality of the bud gets affected. You end up with mature buds ready to crop, but the new growth makes you carry on. Once that new growth has matured, the underlying 'old' bud will have degraded, and you'll find the majority of your bud will be sub standard.
I'm planning on dropping the late bloom boosters in my next grow, and I'm hoping for plants that will have nicely matured bud all over, rather than old bud that's been kickstarted back into action again.
In past grows, where I've run out of Top Shooter, I used PK13/14 to increase the levels of P and K, and the buds were better now that I look back.
I'm not saying this foxtailing happens every time.. my PAK1 didn't have any foxtailing and her buds were solid hard. The PAK2 did foxtail, and her resulting buds are nowhere as hard.... and although the PAK2 gave me much more, PAK1's buds are better, smellier, and stronger when smoked.
Question is since i dont have a pk 13/14 can i go back to using Big Bud??
I'm not sure, Big Bud is NPK 0-1-3, so you're getting extra P and K. Plus it has added ingredients to help in flowering such as Amino acids, Magnesium, Ascorbic and Citric Acids etc. At their recommended dose of 2ml/L you're upping the P and K even more but I'm worried about their claims that it 'noticeably increases the number of flowering-sites and the number of flowers during the early to middle parts of flowering. Towards the end of flowering, we recommend you switch your booster to Overdrive in order to finish, swell and ripen your crop'.

It sounds like it stimulates more bud sites, and that could mean foxtailing.
I would switch to Bud Candy or plain Blackstrap Molasses to give them the extra sugars they need to make bigger buds... that's what the plant wants... sugars, not more Auxins, Ethylenes, Cytokinins etc The plant makes enough of these Cytokinesis hormones, all you have to do is provide more sugars.

I use House and Garden nutes and additives.
It's the same A&B throughout the grow, so no separate Veg nutes and Bloom nutes.
The base nutes for H&G has an NPK of 4-3-9, so in Veg I always keep the base nutes low, and add extra Nitrogen, but in flower, I will increase the base nutes to give me increased levels of P and K for the buds, instead of keeping the base nutes low and adding Top Shooter with its high levels of P and K (along with all the unwanted Auxins etc) like I normally do.
Obviously I will keep the EC of the mix at the same kind of levels, I had to reduce A&B just to get the Top Shooter in and keep the EC down that way, so by not using Top Shooter, I can safely increase the A&B wihout increasing the overall EC of the final feed.... Man I'm stoned so I'm rambling and repeating myeslf LOL
I'll stil use PK 13-14 for 3-4 days mid bloom, but I reckon that will be it, and I hope to get better all round quality of end product, albeit slightly less yield.
 
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Yeah, I agree.... the use of Overdrive, Top Shooter and BAC F1 Extreme... all late flowering boosters... all cause foxtailing.
Now a little bit of foxtailing will increase the yield, but the quality of the bud gets affected. You end up with mature buds ready to crop, but the new growth makes you carry on. Once that new growth has matured, the underlying 'old' bud will have degraded, and you'll find the majority of your bud will be sub standard.
I'm planning on dropping the late bloom boosters in my next grow, and I'm hoping for plants that will have nicely matured bud all over, rather than old bud that's been kickstarted back into action again.
In past grows, where I've run out of Top Shooter, I used PK13/14 to increase the levels of P and K, and the buds were better now that I look back.
I'm not saying this foxtailing happens every time.. my PAK1 didn't have any foxtailing and her buds were solid hard. The PAK2 did foxtail, and her resulting buds are nowhere as hard.... and although the PAK2 gave me much more, PAK1's buds are better, smellier, and stronger when smoked.

I'm not sure, Big Bud is NPK 0-1-3, so you're getting extra P and K. Plus it has added ingredients to help in flowering such as Amino acids, Magnesium, Ascorbic and Citric Acids etc. At their recommended dose of 2ml/L you're upping the P and K even more but I'm worried about their claims that it 'noticeably increases the number of flowering-sites and the number of flowers during the early to middle parts of flowering. Towards the end of flowering, we recommend you switch your booster to Overdrive in order to finish, swell and ripen your crop'.

It sounds like it stimulates more bud sites, and that could mean foxtailing.
I would switch to Bud Candy or plain Blackstrap Molasses to give them the extra sugars they need to make bigger buds... that's what the plant wants... sugars, not more Auxins, Ethylenes, Cytokinins etc The plant makes enough of these Cytokinesis hormones, all you have to do is provide more sugars.

I use House and Garden nutes and additives.
It's the same A&B throughout the grow, so no separate Veg nutes and Bloom nutes.
The base nutes for H&G has an NPK of 4-3-9, so in Veg I always keep the base nutes low, and add extra Nitrogen, but in flower, I will increase the base nutes to give me increased levels of P and K for the buds, instead of keeping the base nutes low and adding Top Shooter with its high levels of P and K (along with all the unwanted Auxins etc) like I normally do.
Obviously I will keep the EC of the mix at the same kind of levels, I had to reduce A&B just to get the Top Shooter in and keep the EC down that way, so by not using Top Shooter, I can safely increase the A&B wihout increasing the overall EC of the final feed.... Man I'm stoned so I'm rambling and repeating myeslf LOL
I'll stil use PK 13-14 for 3-4 days mid bloom, but I reckon that will be it, and I hope to get better all round quality of end product, albeit slightly less yield.


At first i was seeing ALR talking about foxtail but i didnt know what it is...After i looked up on it i got really scared not to happen to me....I dont know how the quality affected but as for appearance im not sure it something i seen before so i want like it i believe xD

Now i didnt see a dried cured bud with foxtail before so i cant be 100% how a bud with foxtail looks after dries up and shrink...

These nutrients are a pain in the ass...i fell into the trap of marketing and i end up with a lot unneseccary bottles. Im not blaiming my nute company...its all starting and finishing from me....so....i have been reading around and cracking my head how should i nute my next grow....

Teetee thank you for realizing my panic and throw your lights here. ALR and you have been my guardian angels so far.

I am sitting here preparing my feed and thinking the time i will have my own stash. As temps have move on here like today it was 33C day outside temp there is nothing better than sitting out in the night rolling a fat one and eating cold waternelon..... I ve been waiting to long for this momment to come and finally i can start being happy about it xD

Only problem right now is mosquitos the night invaders but i think this time the Ultimate smoke smell will drug them up before they attack xD
 
You end up with mature buds ready to crop, but the new growth makes you carry on. Once that new growth has matured, the underlying 'old' bud will have degraded, and you'll find the majority of your bud will be sub standard.

double quality comment, in addition, i had no idea re the degrading of the older under bud tee............... i have only ever used the Pk13/14 (Canna) in combi with this kit, slow release, top dressing Guanokalong Sumatran "Palm Tree Ashes"..............

(Guadong Company Product Text) quote
"Guanokalong Palm Tree Ashes is the new ultimate flower and crop phase booster. They are a great source of high quality of potassium, phosphorus and magnesium, in powder form. Palm Tree Ashes is a 100% organic product and is a must have product for organic growers everywhere. It is suitable for use on its own but this better in conjunction with Guanokalong Bat Guano powder. These two products together make a natural bloom booster for your plants".

You can use it via 50ml in 5ltr warm water, feed it once every week during flower.......... or as i do, 2tbls top dress second week, and week 6 of flower.............. by the 5th watering it (NPK = 0 - 3 - 14) + magnesium, it has all gone down in to the soil !!..... it is suited to cocco also, and delivers no issues, other than silverback buds !!
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I hope to get better all round quality of end product, albeit slightly less yield.

less is certainly more when you are behind the growers trowel tee.............. what i looked for was, the minimum volume, and number of organic flowering feed that can be applied to absolute best effect, with the best trich loading during final 2-3wks of flower......... the less feed that goes in the better !...as it has to come out during the flush ;)..................

added to the "Liquid" canna Pk13/14, i also use the organic soil association approved "Maxicrop Organic", which has added 'Kelp Seaweed" which is also high in phos (P) and mag (K)............. but the black color of the maxicrop is due to the mono saccharine sugar complexes.............. probably aluminum free molasses !
as the Ec is not greatly potent............ extra mls to get the Ec on the move...........

so i apply tree ashes 2nd and 6th wk of flower 2tbls top dress with top wash watering............. from the fourth or fifth week of fruitification, (Strain Dependant) i use the canna Pk13/14 and the maxicrop together........... so if i am making a flower feed up week 5-6-7-8-9, say total nute Ec is 0.9....................then the last 0.3 of Ec of 0.9 total Ec, is filled out with a mix of 60% canna Pk13/14 & 40% organic maxicrop with kelp seaweed PK and mollass................ the three in combination palm tree ashes, cannaPk13/14 + organic maxicrop............... delivers the silverbacl mother load ;).............
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seaweed was first collected dried and used as a fertilizer in the early 1800's on Gurnsey, where "Vraicing carts" where used to collect the dulse and kelp after storms brought it in & on-shore, where it was dried, and steeped in freshwater.................. now Monty don, on (Gardeners World), every Friday at 8-8.30pm BBC2 (On IPlayer), swears by the weed, the seaweed though........... and he dont hold back with the watering can in summer !!................ the man is one to one with horticulture !!................. he put me onto the Maxicrop !! ALR

I would switch to Bud Candy or plain Blackstrap Molasses to give them the extra sugars they need to make bigger buds... that's what the plant wants... sugars, not more Auxins, Ethylenes, Cytokinins etc The plant makes enough of these Cytokinesis hormones, all you have to do is provide more sugars.

your right about the big bud, if you notice on the AN nute calculator (Bloom Bloom / Expert Level), at week "4" of flower........... they drop the "Big Bud" at "Week 4"....so it's used to accelerate the fruit 'Size" early on.... but the bud candy = candy = sugars, = arabinose, dextrose, glucose, maltose and xylose is used from wk1 to the end of flower............. ALR
 

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ike today it was 33C day outside temp there is nothing better than sitting out in the night rolling a fat one and eating cold waternelon..... I ve been waiting to long for this momment to come and finally i can start being happy about it xD

watermellon, 33c, fat one !................... sounds bliss to me white'ty....................... 33c on 15th May !1......... what will the temp be in "July" !................ i bet the temp 15th May last year was no where near 33c !!................. that high that early, could present issues !!.............. we allready have the aircon running, hopefully it will keep the temp down in the tent, as it rises outside, if the difference is "6c"............the dew point difference, then condensation will form on the whole of the inside of the tent................ as 28c inside, in the house 33 to 35c !1 when it's 42c outside !!.............. the condensation, will evaporate 'Raising" the RH in the tent also !!..

i have been reading around and cracking my head how should i nute my next grow....

you will have to use up the AN nute set, as it must of cost a pretty penny or two white mate............... waist not want not....................... but hey, the AN nute suit, seems to be doing not to bad a job so far right........... i have no complaints, after you posted the NPK stats............. i knew we could make them sing a bit............ at the right Ec's............. if you can get cannaPk13/14 in, in the next week, the same route you got the AN set through................. we can use the Pk13/14 the last 2 weeks of flower....................should be fine.............

but looking at the trich load on the ultimates and the amnesia right now.................. they allready look like they are at 80% load capacity !!.........................the bottled water has had a large part to play there also........ but the largest part is the quality husbandry that has been applied to the dames, over the last 75 days......... consistent environs, and temp control, with consistent good feed preparation regime,.............. new duel spec sunmaster, all adding into the outcome mix............... good genetics to start with is a plus plus............ the biobiz lightmix soil, another item that has not under performed............... it's all adding up to the trich load............ ALR

My recommendation for nutes is the same as already given,............. the stronger the concentration of the nutrient, "Salt Density"..................... the less you need to use to lift your Ec level.................. that means you use less, which ,eans it last a shed load longer than the dilute general market nutrient offers......... the Genesis "Mush" is Conc !! = Concentrated........... and you add hot water to make up the nute, to one ltr when you get it, which means it's light for posting, as no liquids in bottle !1..... theres only 3 parts grow 1 or 2, bloom nutrient and "Micronutrient" = Microbase.....(Plus my PK13/14 + Maxicrop).......... it's the genesis formula micro-nutrient where the real trace and essential elements are.......... and is considered the experts choice........ not many know of it,............. as it is not widely promoted, or talked about by those who use it !!........ for good reason....

https://www.greenairuk.com/genesis-formula.........one liter is 15 quid, not bad as it is concentrated mush

the beauty is; the NPK

VEG NPK
grow 2 = 15-0-8
microbase = 3-10-19
bloom = 6-15-17

add up the above NPK =
in equal parts = VEG = NPK = N24 P25 K44 classic veg NPK profile = N & P

add up the below for fruiting NPK totals =

PK 0-13-14 (Ec0.3) + hint of maxicrop
Microbase 3-10-19 (Ec 0.3)
Bloom 6-15-17 (Ec0.3)

total NPK
add above
flower = 9-38-50............... now there is a killer fruitification ratio !!...

+ palm tree & maxicrop sugars, and additional micro elements and vitamins and mineral compounds....+ "Rainwater" = silverback buds.

I also feed my "Dahlia" genesis = look at the color in those 8" diameter buds !!............ they originate from sub tropical "Mexico"........where they where first discovered.......these are pure strain not hybrids..... ALR
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the above white tips aint nute burn, it's "Wind Burn"............. or tissue dehydration....
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ALR i appreciate the expert information you share with us. As it comes to self realizasion that quality is my first priority here i will have to play by the game. Enough with the so called extra weight and harmful extra chems.

Your growing style is hybrid and thats what i want to achieve sooner or later. A top notch bud! Thanks buddie!

I take a lot of effort, time and financial shortcuts by getting this knowledge and i really appreciate your honesty!

Just after 1 grow with 3 plants my 1 litre base nutes of grow micro bloom will finish soon. It will be just enough to cover this grow. Unbelievable right?

As i am running the house alone and the support of the family and the running cost of life is high here i will have to move smart to get the advisable items...

Just looking now to get pk 13/14 and its like 70 euros (55 pounds) for the express shipment which will come to me after about a week...

I cant buy the pk 13/14 as i have the christening baptize of my son soon so i will have to finish the grow with what i have and that will be the base nutes b52 and budcandy....

I could change the ratio of micro grow bloom to 1:2:3 tho. What do you think?

Micro = 2-0-0 Grow = 1-0-4 Bloom = 1-3-4 so 1:2:3 = 8-9-20 + the B52 2-1-4 = 10-10-24

Phosphorus is not enough but the only additive that has the P inside is OverDrive which i will never use again....

I dont know how we will survive the heat in the grow room xD I just stay positive that everything will be ok. I have the portable working sending air next to the cab where is the cab's intake square passive and it seems to do the work. I run the portable unit at the lowest speed and i have no issues.

After all thinking i realise that keeping the room temp down and then the cab using the cool air from the room is what i have to keep because also the drying and curing period is coming and i could not use any other option because of the heat rises in the enviroment.....

I would love to install a new split unit in the room as my current split unit is very very old and not so efficient.

My only concern is that the outside unit is in the drive path of the other 2 houses and my neighboors will hear it running but thats a risk i have to take during the summer period....

Also i want the hybrid solar split unit which will save me a lot electricity but to make any installment i will have to turn down all the grow room so the electrician can connect it safely....

Im waiting this grow to finish. See what yield i will get. Then decide what to do.

I dont know what to do really it makes me stress xD

Maybe a new house to rent will be a solution but its so difficult to find lonely house at a reasonable price like i have here so for now im going with the portable unit until further enlightment from Ubove xD

I LOVE your flowers my friend xD So much symmetry on that round pink flower! Hypnotic !
I am using 2 kind of climbing plants that are blooming right now and they are so beautiful. The violet colors are very relaxing i can say and calming.

This is the 2 strains of climbing plants i blent together on the same fence to climb up a pergola i made using iron. Hopefully the 2 plants will mix together and spread evenly their flowers. A family friend has the first flower in the photo in the village for many years. The plant has covered all the house externally and entering the house yard you are in an enclosed enviroment of this plant. Just amazing!!
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Deep purple 'Morning Glory" ! wow, a vigorous climber............. So i was reading on plants than can get you high, and i found out that that the seeds of morning glories can get you high, but they also make you nauseous. they are a psychedelic drug. The seeds are similar to lsd in their effect.
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some climbers get right out of hand if you feed em genesis nute packs !
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now this climber (Below) i had last year for the first time, in a pot on the front door !............. fed it right it went mental, all up the door shelter and off up the front wall !! amazing flower configuration and color.....

species passiflora caerulea Blue, notice them deep gren leaves she love nitrogen big style.......... so i fed it big style !................ it went up the house front 15 foot !.............. the flowers only last a couiple of days, and are not frequent............. but are mental to look at !!
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Just after 1 grow with 3 plants my 1 litre base nutes of grow micro bloom will finish soon.

thats mental, such a low concentration of salts in the nute, diluted to fuc !!......... from the 3no 1ltr bottles of genesis, i get 2 and a bit grows............... as the Ec is kept at bliss point, which is lower than most feed......... tip burn shows the over nute error.........

Micro = 2-0-0 Grow = 1-0-4 Bloom = 1-3-4 so 1:2:3 = 8-9-20 + the B52 2-1-4 = 10-10-24

M + G + B + B52 NPK added together = total MGB NPK 6 : 4 : 12...................... as you say the Phos (P) is a bit light....................

add the canna 13/14 Pk to the above total you get;

6 : 4 : 12 MGB + B52 +Pk = below
0 : 13 : 14 canna Pk 13/14
6 : 17 : 26

6/17/26 is a much better fruiting NPK ration white yea............. it's an inverse relationship from veg to flower, low P & K high N in veg................. conversely in fruiting NPK reverses = high P & K and low N Nitrogen

compare the above AN nute to my genesis fruiting NPK
total genesis fruiting NPK
flower = 9-38-50............... now there is a killer fruitification ratio !!...

the portable working sending air next to the cab where is the cab's intake square passive and it seems to do the work. I run the portable unit at the lowest speed and i have no issues.

so one AC unit in the room cooling room air being sucked in by the carbon filter fan and the solar light enclosure fan, also sucking air out of the room = high back pressure = negative pressure on the room = good......

and one AC unit connected front and rear, in and out of the tent, literally tent air recirculated around the tent and AC unit.......... if these where full on AC units, you would only need one !!................. i think the units you have are air chillers ?? do you add water to a tray in the rear white'ty ??...........

a true AC unit you can set the air temp on the front............ they are quite heavy as it has a refridgeration unit (Compressor) in the unit............. use you trigger temp gauge to check in and out temps................ you say you are running thew recuirc unit at half power at the mo ??..................... do you not just set the temp on the front and it cools the air in to that emp yea ??................... or are you running it at 22c ??...........

if the air indoors rises to 30-35c................. an AC unit with "Good Refrigerant Gasses" in it will drop the temp from 35 to 26c easy white yea.............. 9c drop is no sweat for a functional AC unit............

using the cool air from the room is what i have to keep because

the "New" incoming passive "Ambient" warm air "In" is coming into the grow room from the rest of the house from "Under The Entrance Door" right...............

However you have two extract fans removing the tent hot air, to the outside of the room through the lower balcony door panel,................... so if the house air coming into the room is say 30-35c, at the rate the air is being brought into the room under the door................... the air con fan will not be able to keep up with the volume of warm air coming in right..................as the AC unit fan cannot recirculate and chill the air fast enough to over come the hot air coming in white yea........ it willl have an impact on the room temp lowering it somewhat............. but i doubt it will cope with the amount of air being brought in from the house under the door by thew two 580/m3/hr extract fans you have taking air out of the space......... it may be better just to have the 2 AC units running in the room, not directly conected to the tent, as one is now.............. the warm house air into the room will be treated by the 2 AC units as it comes into the room............... its cooled then latently sucked into the tent via the rectangle mesh passive vents right......... we will just have to see as the temp bulds as we go through summer white yea it's "First Run" experiments ;)

My only concern is that the outside unit is in the drive path of the other 2 houses and my neighbors will hear it running but thats a risk i have to take during the summer period....

you have one of the AC units on the balcony white yea ?? in view of neibours on the second floor right ??

I dont know what to do really it makes me stress xD

we just have to see how summer temp peak pans out............... im not sure your AC units are gassed up properly.................. you can recharge the AC unit refrigerant gasses..................... to make the unti 100% cooling again................ if the gas efficacy drops the cooling drops by half or more white yea......... you should feel a significant colder air on the palm of your hand from the unit. you can feel the difference on the back of your hand.......or use infra red temp meter...............little difference means the gasses are gone white........... probably reason for sale i afraid............. can you find an AC unit re gass outlet ??.................take one and get an opinion ??...........................ALR
 
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Yes indeed the passifloracaeruleaBlue has a greeny look on the leaves. Last year it was very big and i did a stupid thing and fertilize her and she was burned 2/3. Took me 2 days to clear the fence and now she is up again taking over. You are right she must love nitrogen. I can try and give some of the AN base nutes after i get my hands on the genesis! But i will go very easy on her. Having the EC pen now makes it easier to understand what im doing. .....


The portable is definetely air conditioning unit. It has 1.5kw per hour rating running on full speed i suppose...I set it to 27 and its working very efficient. I will get it service when i see is not working good but for the momment i set it to 27 and i have it running on 1 fan speed from total 3 speeds = low medium high....

I will upload a photo later to show you how i hace it working....

In the morning i took a reading of the meter of house electricity at 08:00 and 4 hours later took another reading and it was 6kwh. We didnt use anything else in the house so it is a true reading. My setup with 600w light + 2x100w fans and the portable running on low = 1.5kwh.

Did my calculations for 18 hours per day for 60 days (we get the invoice for 2 month consuption) and the result is something 300 euros = 150 euros per month....

The other portable unit is smaller and its rated at 0.8kw per hour. Problem is that is working for a bit and it turns off. This one must be 10.000 btu and the bigger im using must be 12.000.
 
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Now that is interesting...You can prepare a tea with the seeds and throw some antinauseous medicine in there and voila!


Here in the photo you look the ac unit blowing conditioned air between the wall and the tent. The unit is set on 26C or 27C and the unit keeps that temperature in the space between the wall and the tent. The air coming back to the unit is giving a room temp of 27C so the unit is showing room temp of 27C. In the rest of the room behind the unit the temp is 31C right now!! Propably because its very hot day and propably because of the heat from the ducting removing the hot air from the unit to the window, which i will insulate soon...

The conditioned air is being sucked in and giving me stable 28C readings in the cab. This is the second day i run it like this and its working flowless! The good thing is that the unit is working on the lowest consuption and the compressor switch of when temp reaches 26C-27C and starts again when the temp goes beyond that...

I dont know yet what are the temps in the night. Tonight i will make the readings and act accordingly.
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i took a reading of the meter of house electricity at 08:00 and 4 hours later took another reading and it was 6kwh. We didnt use anything else in the house so it is a true reading.

you used 6kw over 4hrs white yea ??..................... so 6 divide by 4 = 1.5Kw/hr = every hour your total house use is 1.5kw white yea.............

AC unit 2.6kw low = 700w
light .600w
2 fans .200w
= 1.5Kw/hr ??.......... plus your fridge and freezer on 24/7 120w ea, + TV standbye and use, + Dishwasher ??........ once a day...... plus house lighting, electric shower ?/..... your tent is using less than 1.5kw white mate yea.....

150 euros per month....

about 90 quid, i pay 110 so you aint over the odds white mate........... its a three bedder so about right man...

Problem is that is working for a bit and it turns off.

probly the stat, you may find one not a problem to resource.....and fit... you cant really afford to run a second AC unit, or have room for it !!......... as the heat rises, in the room as summer ambient comes in under the door............. the AC unit will just come more often to cope with it ??/............

The conditioned air is being sucked in and giving me stable 28C readings in the cab. This is the second day i run it like this and its working flowless! The good thing is that the unit is working on the lowest consuption and the compressor switch of when temp reaches 26C-27C and starts again when the temp goes beyond that..

sounds like the AC temp stat is working fine,................... look at it this way, the 2nd unit, is there if this one fails in mid summer at night etc............... you got one to swap straight in before temps move........... shame you dont have a room temp phone alarm app !!.......... you say stable 28c............... and ambient at 32 already, sounds like she can handle it so far............. from 32 to 42c max summer temp,.............is 10c climb, i recon she may be able to handle it........... 42c going in from outside input duct, Ac unit venting that out to the room at 27c.........= 15c drop in temp for the AC unit to handle............... tee gets 38c and his cab at 28c..........= another AC unit handling 10c drop............. ALR
 
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I have good news AND good news....
Good news its that i found pk13/14 1 litre 40 pounds including express shipping
And the good news is that i order it and its expexted by 22-23 May
 
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