Dutch Passion DP Ultimates first

[WhiteLight]

...oh, no no no, I'm no "legend" mate, thanks just the same! I consider myself competent, no better...
Optic Foliar is good stuff for sure. I use the Transport alone for a variety of uses with other products. It's especially good at dealing with stubborn micronute defc.'s like Fe, Zn, Mn, Cu... immobile nutes, meaning the plant can't translocate them from other older established tissues to new growth, this is why they show there first and worst,... Transport is the product that allows temporary penetration through the cuticle layer, allowing whatever is in the solution with it to get hauled directly in, instead of going through the stomata alone.... I like to spoil the girls some during veg' with a foliar spray of pure fulvic (Ful-Power), Si, mild dose of micro's (Earth Juice Microblast is me fav', much of it compounded with sulfates so you get a nice boost of S as well), just to keep on tops of demands, prevention! (BTW, if you use Transport, don't use a wetting agent along with it, not needed, and Dinesh the owner says it's not recommended)...

Yeah, too much lime can cause more trouble than help! One of my friends who grows in Canada, in-ground, over-limed a couple spots and ended up battling B defc. for a little while....... too much Ca screws with uptake of certain other cation nutes.... worse, it doesn't show the more obvious toxicity symptoms on the leaves like many others do! Usually it shows itself in other lock-outs, which in turn becomes a little tangle to figure out what's causing the lock-out: plain lack-of, off pH, bad cross reaction with other nutes, antagonistic/competitive uptake issue... Ca (ionic and carbonate) can build up, becoming a cumulative thing, very sneaky- ....

Waira i didnt want to sound too much...I personally have a legend meter...For example i consider Valentino Rossi a legend on motogp because he helped make motogp what it is today. In this way i feel the same for you because you are doing the same thing...It is people like you with their results that make us want to push more and become better.

This time i learned my lesson with lime. Im sure that this is whats going on in the soil right now. There is excess Ca (or mg?) and a lockout has started. Hopefully this light flush with 8-10ltrs of plain water will have the extra salt removen and make the soil's nutes and ph active for her roots again? Propably yes. I will update on the way. ALR aka Master aka The Doc sures knows something on this. Soon i will take the run off ph and see what the Doc has to say..

Have you read up on chelation, and humic-fulvics yet? There's some good introduction artiles in Reference section,...

What is Reference section? Where is it here in AFN you mean? No never heard of what is chelations or humic fulvics?
Thanks for the reference. I will study tonight!

Goodmorning to all. Have a great day!

 

[WhiteLight]

@Waira Hey my friend. I have found an article you posted here...( https://www.autoflower.org/threads/humic-and-fulvic-acids-info-thread-and-now-chelation-too.61990/ )
Its been well entairtaining reading so far..I havent read much the chelate session only a few paragraphs but the humic/fulvic acids got my attention...

Anyway my friend Waira i want to say that i understand now the importance of these acids...I guess soil has some quantity of these acids inside but i am wondering if my soil which is a lightmix may have little to none of these wonderful acids...

Currently i have a library with a lot of advance nutrients on my shelf so i found in their website a product named Ancient Earth Organic OIM...Ι found nice information there about the origin of these acids...They claim that this product has chelaters as well among the acids...And also they say to use it in all stages of the plants life as it is very beneficial...

I dont know why you introduced me to these acids yet...Is it because that it will help my plants take up the lime ingredients from the soil? Is this really possible to happen? Even if perhaps the lime has created ph unbalances?

What is your opinion, should i use this as its from the same company of my nutrients pack?

And another question please...Does it matter that this product is Organic? I can still use it with my other nutrients right?

Also Waira do you know how i add this in a feed mix? I add it very last? I add it before or after m/g/b?

Please let me know your opinion on this product..

 

[Waira]

...OK, I'll accept legendary in my efforts here- ...I have been toiling in the Infirmary for nearly 4 years!

Good to hear you're reading up in those articles mate, I appreciate the difficulty when English isn't your first language... So, as you see humic-fulvic serves multiple purpose, but chelation is a big role... it's all about protecting those highly reactive nutrient ions form getting tied up elsewhere and rendered unavailable. Now quality nutrients will have some form of this already, particularly in synthetic nutes,.. they HAVE too, or the concentrated solution would cross react like crazy and make locked-up mess, possibly toxic compounds,... one reason why there isn't a true quality all-in-one formulation,... Some dry products can attempt this.. I cite MegaCrop (GreenLeaf Nutrients, they are actually here as vendor with lots of grow tests) as one of those... But h-f is a consumable resource, so even if the soil has some, it won't last for long... the microbes can use it as a carbon source as well, so adding it in regularly is a wise thing to do! humic-fulvic is by definition, organic!
The AN product is right, they make quality nutes, but the $$ is ridiculous IMO,... Of course, what you can get in your country and it's cost is another matter... If it's available to you, look for BioAg brand... I have a small 100g pack of dry h-f that was very inexpensive, and since you use so little, it goes a very long way,... I also use the liquid Ful-Power, pure fulvic acid, a clear light gold liquid in appearance... this is used for foliar applications mainly,.. Orchids also love it! Many of mine are on mounts, not pots, so foliar feeding is a big part of the uptake,... Use the product as directed, and if you go with AN's h-f, the label will tell you feeding info,...

 

[WhiteLight]

@Waira Very nice. I added a Litre of the Adv.Nutrients acids for my next order.

@AutoLowRyder....Master....I think we have a problem(?) Okkkk i wake up and in my hurriness to make the test with the run off i didnt ph'ed down the water to 6 and i added to the pot 2 litres with ph of 8.3 and ec original 0.3 BUT i didnt get run off After i realized i didnt ph'ed water down to 6, i used the ph down and fixed the ph @ 6 and i give another 2 Litres and i collect the run off. It was ph 6 and ec 4.6...Then i added another 2 litres and retest the sample again and it was ph 5.9 and ec 4.8...Then there was more run off water in the tray so i took another test (this time the run off water was more black than yellow that it was before) and the test is ph 5.3 ec 5!! Then i added another 1 litre of water and run off test show ph 5.9 and ec 4.8

To recap: PH.........EC
1st test: 6.0.........4.6
2nd test 5.9.........4.8
3rd test 5.3.........5.0
4th test 5.9.........4.8

What is happening here? The lime kicked in and EC is flying?
My ph i suppose is good?

 

[AutoLowRyder]

I will propably use 2 x 500m3/h filters like you said or i will use 1 x 600m3/h carbon filter...somehow i need to solve this soon....

better to have 2no outfall or outflow carbon filters on the Y shaped duct piece................. as back pressure is reduced, and this is important when we get into flower white'ty ok............. allways double the filter capacity, for an extractor fan................... yours is 500m3/hr (Minus Back Pressure)...... so you need 2no 500m3/hr filters ok................... not worth risking an odor overflow indecent ok................. i have a 125mm dia 580m3/hr extract fan, the intake side has a 1350m3/hr carbon filter 1000mm long !!........ on the intake, in the loft, on the outfall side of the fan, connected to a "Y" piece, are 2no 125mm 400m3/hr carbon filters.............. so very low back pressure on the fan..................... fan can breath and not push hard against the carbon filter........................

when summer temps hit your cab.................. you will need a large flow through of air, so the cab can remain at or near air temperature, you say it can hit 35c in peak summer !! plus HPS ambient at 6c............................... you see my issue re high flow through "Safe"............ odor removal........................... is why i have one large one on intake side and two on the outfall side of the fan.............. = high air flow "With Proper Filtration" and no overflow of odor......... this is an important side of bio security white'ty..............

as you have an active and not a passive cab intake, your current fan (Now Thermo controlled, very good) your extract fan is 500m3/hr................ your active input fan should be no more than 350m3/hr............. max would be 450m3/hr input volume.........(My Advice Would Be ; Try the cab with the input fan "Off") see what the RH and temperatures do white'ty ok........ .....................

as if a single extractor fan carbon filter begins to block, the active input fan will pump the smell out of the cab / tent, into the house........as the main sinfle filter begins to block etc............ you only have a coke head living next door,...........,............. that is the last person you need to smell anything !!................. you dont want anyone at all knowing you are doing this white'ty ok..........you are out of town is a good thing ok................... 100% security comes first when you have a family living at the same address right..............................

I have the duct covered with net

you have the wondow open, to let heat out at the mo,............ so micro insects can get in the room, following the smell of growing plants !!................. then they get sucked into the active air input and into the cab, white fly black fly mites the list is long, thripps and others can get in to the plants at the moment right ??? grab a pair of the misses tights for now and put them over the intake open duct............... to filter air going into the cab.......... you want the mesh as fine as possible etc ok.....

room temp im in is 18C and soon it will go 20C and then 25C...

when peak summer comes white'ty............. and as you are on a 600w HPS......... (I Hope It Is "Duel Spectrum" bulb), your 600w HPS runs at around 8c above ambiunt ok..................... so at peak of summer, indoors your temp will be 26-28c..................... "Add HPS" = cab temp at say 26c + 8c = 34c............

we dont want to exeed 32c as a maximum really............... this is why we need the full flow potential of the extract fan............ so at full pelt it might keep the temp down to 28-32c......................

But we use it full in VEG so no need to use it after in bloom..

when flowers begin to show, the plant stops root growth due to the flowering hormone ethylene, all energy is diverted to the flowers, root stops growing at that stage ok............. flowers size = hazelnut size when energy diversion begins

.I never use private browsing or VPN

VPN is recommended......10 quid a moth etc.......... priceless !!............... private browse is a must white'ty................ security first right.........

We are not even 800.000 citizens...And we are all known to each other..

even more reason to be max security.................... tell no one what you are doing, inc the misses at work etc........... tell no one..................

i will buy it in the morning and open it to evaporate chlorine and make the sample the next morning..

There is "No" chlorine in bottled water white'ty................ only in tap water supply to sterilize bugs in the supply system before you drink it , none in bottled water........................ the coke head will see you taking in 6 ? 8 ? or 10 or more 5ltr bottled water plastic bottles, in one go ?????...................... make sure it dont look suspicious etc..................

this is why i ended up getting an "RO" unti and adding tap water to the RO water RO = (Reverse Osmosis Filtered).................... = zero salt........................ so you add salty tap water to buffer the RO..................... you are going to get through aprox 16ltrs or more every other day when these get going....................... can you sneak that amount of supermarket bought bottled water into the house ??..... 50ltrs a week !!!! you may need to consider an RO filter white'ty......................... i know its more money, and i know you wernt aware of the proper full cost of a 100% secure grow !!!!!!!!....................... did you get infra red thermometer yet ?? ALR

this is the Y piece i mentioned, just in case you have never seen one white'ty ok........ connect two number filters to this, improves flow rate without compromising filtration capacity....... to remove odors etc..................

 

[AutoLowRyder]

i didnt ph'ed down the water to 6 and i added to the pot 2 litres with ph of 8.3 and ec original 0.3

adding one shot of Ph8.3 will do no harm white'ty ok.............. infact that is how we raise a Ph in a grow medium, over boosts the Ph higher than the run of etc....... we may have to do this yet on the limed pots........... we will see ok..............

i give another 2 Litres and i collect the run off. It was ph 6 and ec 4.6..

your Ph in the medium is running around PH6, this is a bit low due to the lime................. we would need to compare it to a pot with "NO" lime to check if it's lime or soil ok............ FROM NOW ON Ph THE FEEDS TO 6.8 WHITE'TY THIS WILL O SET THE LOW Ph@6 AT THE MO..............

Th Ec "Average" from the 4no run off's is quite high at Ec 4.8.................. again we need to compare to a pot with no lime...................... light mix is called "Light' as it has very little "Pre-Nutrient" added to the lightmix....... the allmix it's big brother has a good deal of "Pre-Nute" in the soil..................... so no feed needed for the first 2wks..............................it soon runs low though......................... better with light mix as no nute conflict, hence the dames on Ec0.6 are responding, as low nute in lightmix.........

so the 4.6Ec in the run off "has Top be" lime etc..................... but we need to be sure ok, hence >>>

We will need to do a run off test, "select at random a pot with no lime"................... take 4no Ph tests ok, as you did above......... post em up asap........................ so i can see the difference, and act on it.....................

looking like we will have to run some high Ph flushes, Ph7.5 or straight water at 8.3 post aeration, through the ultimate pot with the lime in to lift the Ph up from 6 to 6.5 or near it........................ lets see what the 'Control" run off is from a normal pot first ok......... ................ we do not want Ph to sag below 5.8 as a base line ok.......... the root temp is good, is a savior at the moment......................

don't worry, we aint in trouble yet,.......... but may need to head it off at the pass white'ty ok............ !!!!! can you smuggle water in, after dark, where no one can see you hauling 10no 5ltr bottled water in !! 50ltrs....................

the first 2ltrs that went in, was no run off, that tells me those pots are dry at the bottom............. you better soak the 4 dames till 1st run off then don't add any more water.................... just to ensure the whole pot, top to bottom is moist ok.......... so roots can get down to pot bottom as mentioned ok....................... while you do this measure the run off's !!!!!!!!........................... 2 birds with one stone............................hopefully the non lime pots will give Ph6.5 and Ec2.0 or less.......................... as mentioned light mix is practically zero pre-nute.....

3tbls spoons of lime in 20ltr is still quite a bit white'ty........................ although nothing is showing up in the way of deff's at the mo ok.......................... but roots might not be that far down yet also ok...........ALR

run off water was more black than yellow

the allmix has ; (Copy from biobizz home site).......................they do not publish Ec or Ph values for the lightmix;
Biobizz say this re light mix......... no chemical pre-fertilization, all organic they recon;;;;

Biobizz 50L Light-Mix Potting Soil Bag is made from Baltic Peat which is the top derivative of peat,

Biobizz light mix soil produces a balanced potential of hydrogen that is self-regulating.

Biobizz only has ingredients that are natural and organic. As a result,

Biobizz mix 50l has a medium EC score.
.......................... as preparation and content quality can vary from one batch to another,............... teetee has just had a duff batch of cocco, we have had to deal with,................ recovering his Ph back to 6.5 from a run off of 4.1 !!!!!!!!............................ i use 'Sodium-Bi-Carbonate".............. that you buy for cooking white'ty............. i would get 2 or 3 60ml tubs of the powder bi-carb just in case we have to run a "Ph Recovery" programme for you also !!!!!!!!!............................. read tee's blog, i just recovered his plants from mostly yellow color !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! look at them now post my prescription and treatment, treatments rendered by teetee.......... they are back on track now............................. ALR

https://www.autoflower.org/posts/2045098/ teetee gose to the dark side

white'ty here is my blog link below ok, for the auto DesFran & others !! they are @Day70 = 10wks old !!

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/autolowryders-sativa-passion.70437/#post-2049407

 

[WhiteLight]

better to have 2no outfall or outflow carbon filters on the Y shaped duct piece................. as back pressure is reduced, and this is important when we get into flower white'ty ok............. allways double the filter capacity, for an extractor fan................... yours is 500m3/hr (Minus Back Pressure)...... so you need 2no 500m3/hr filters ok................... not worth risking an odor overflow indecent ok................. i have a 125mm dia 580m3/hr extract fan, the intake side has a 1350m3/hr carbon filter 1000mm long !!........ on the intake, in the loft, on the outfall side of the fan, connected to a "Y" piece, are 2no 125mm 400m3/hr carbon filters.............. so very low back pressure on the fan..................... fan can breath and not push hard against the carbon filter........

I had a look online and found a filter at 500m3/h from RAM. I am making an order x2 filters next week, ok master. My fans are the same Brand (RAM). I have 3 fans x 150mm @ 580m3/h power. Now i use just 2. Maybe in summer i will use the 3rd to vent my light....I think i saw the ''Y'' piece to connect the filters in a shop the other day...No problem i will find all the goodies for sure....

Is it ok that my fan is 580m3/h for 2x500m3/h filters?

as you have an active and not a passive cab intake, your current fan (Now Thermo controlled, very good) your extract fan is 500m3/hr................ your active input fan should be no more than 350m3/hr............. max would be 450m3/hr input volume.........(My Advice Would Be ; Try the cab with the input fan "Off") see what the RH and temperatures do white'ty ok........ ..

I will use the passive intake during the day starting tomorrow and i will remote monitor temps and RH to see whats going on...Master my fans power is 580m3/h....
My thermostatic controller has the option to adjust the intake fans power and i can play with it while i check the negative pressure at the tent. I can find a lot of adjustments when needed....
I dont run the fans at full power all the time....Like now, while i am writing to you my excaust fan is running on 40% because of the controller. But i dont think this is recycling the air at the correct time......During the day it runs 100% the excaust and at 60-80% the intake.

you have the wondow open, to let heat out at the mo,............ so micro insects can get in the room, following the smell of growing plants !!................. then they get sucked into the active air input and into the cab, white fly black fly mites the list is long, thripps and others can get in to the plants at the moment right ??? grab a pair of the misses tights for now and put them over the intake open duct............... to filter air going into the cab.......... you want the mesh as fine as possible etc ok.....

Window is sealed with plastic bag and strong tape. Outside of the window i have this mosquito nets, i dont know if they help...In anyway i have 2 yellow traps inside the tent...Its full of insects here in the open area...I have a powder i use in summer to make spray and i spray around the house on the walls that makes the flies go away, i will use it soon around the windows. Im on the second floor.

when peak summer comes white'ty............. and as you are on a 600w HPS......... (I Hope It Is "Duel Spectrum" bulb), your 600w HPS runs at around 8c above ambiunt ok..................... so at peak of summer, indoors your temp will be 26-28c..................... "Add HPS" = cab temp at say 26c + 8c = 34c............

we dont want to exeed 32c as a maximum really............... this is why we need the full flow potential of the extract fan............ so at full pelt it might keep the temp down to 28-32c.....

It will be a nightmare in summer, i will sure lose some hair until October

when flowers begin to show, the plant stops root growth due to the flowering hormone ethylene, all energy is diverted to the flowers, root stops growing at that stage ok............. flowers size = hazelnut size when energy diversion begins

Always learning from you master!

VPN is recommended......10 quid a moth etc.......... priceless !!............... private browse is a must white'ty................ security first right.........

even more reason to be max security.................... tell no one what you are doing, inc the misses at work etc........... tell no one......

I found a service for vpn but i will like to have a more detailed look. Tomorrow i will have it check better.
Nobody knows whats going on.... They dont call me batman for nothing

There is "No" chlorine in bottled water white'ty................ only in tap water supply to sterilize bugs in the supply system before you drink it , none in bottled water........................ the coke head will see you taking in 6 ? 8 ? or 10 or more 5ltr bottled water plastic bottles, in one go ?????...................... make sure it dont look suspicious etc..................

this is why i ended up getting an "RO" unti and adding tap water to the RO water RO = (Reverse Osmosis Filtered).................... = zero salt........................ so you add salty tap water to buffer the RO..................... you are going to get through aprox 16ltrs or more every other day when these get going....................... can you sneak that amount of supermarket bought bottled water into the house ??..... 50ltrs a week !!!! you may need to consider an RO filter white'ty......................... i know its more money, and i know you wernt aware of the proper full cost of a 100% secure grow !!!!!!!!....................... did you get infra red thermometer yet ?? ALR

I didnt know that bottle water is chlorine free....
I am trying to install my 2 stage filter, remember it? Its the american system so im waiting a part from the company to connect it on my sink. I hope this will take me down to EC 0.3...Will see...I will let you know first!
I can manage the water because its all we use here with this crap tap water....Its no problem its usual phenomenon to carry bottles at home here.....
Infra red should be with me by Friday!

 

[WhiteLight]

We will need to do a run off test, "select at random a pot with no lime"................... take 4no Ph tests ok, as you did above......... post em up asap........................ so i can see the difference, and act on it.....................

I just Finished the tests....I will also post the previous test result for a better image....Here we go:

Bottled water going IN is ph'ed to 6.0 with original EC 0.3 and temp 23C

ULTIMATE 1....PH....EC
1st test............5.9....3.3
2nd test...........5.9....3.3

ULTIMATE 2....PH....EC
1st test............6.0....4.6
2nd test...........5.9....4.8

CRITICAL........PH....EC
1st test............6.0....3.2
2nd test...........6.1....2.8

AMNESIA.......PH....EC
1st test............5.9....2.8
2nd test...........5.9....2.8

Master i have to add here that run off temp was 21C...Bit low i suppose? Waiting for the infra red to know better...

 

[AutoLowRyder]

Is it ok that my fan is 580m3/h for 2x500m3/h filters?

1000m3 on a 580m3/hr is what we want............... as the low back presure means, in summer ambient say 28c + HPS @8c = 36c.............. the fan can pull down the cab temp to 2c above air @30c......... and keep the cab cooled due to speed of 'Air Flow management"................. which i know you can dial up on the controller to max.................... to keep the air in cab 2-3c above outdoor ambient....... we are not loosing hair this summer white;ty................. but you will be having a "White'ty".... when you get your chops round the 'Ultimate Ultimate" !!.................. white;ty !!!............... cant wait mate....

i can play with it while i check the negative pressure at the tent. I can find a lot of adjustments when needed....

you are developing system husbandry and fine tuning, it and you into it !!............. is what i want to hear, canna culture intuition & application, makes perfect......

I will use the passive intake during the day starting tomorrow and i will remote monitor temps and RH to see whats going on...Master my fans power is 580m3/h....

you are developing system husbandry and fine tuning, it and you into it !!............. is what i want to hear, canna culture intuition & application, makes perfect......

During the day it runs 100% the exhaust and at 60-80% the intake.

intake = positive fan pushed, incoming air must "never" exceed "Out Take"...of the extractor...... or exhaust as you refer to it............... you dont 'Ever" want positive pressure in put from the non passive input fan............. that will blow exess air out of the bottom netting and into the room in the house.................... in flower, this would stink the house right out from top to bottom...........................

you will then let this smell 'Out" of the house. 580 being pulled out of cab, you want half that at a positive input from the non passive input fan........... that way there is allway's a negative pressure on the side of the cab, as the difference is drawn in from the side mesh low level vents...................... you dont want to come home to a house full of stink from the cab in flower believe me !!

i have 2 yellow traps inside the tent...Its full of insects here in the open area.

flies carry and distribute, pick up spider mites, gnatts and so on.............. traps are good.................. better to hang the long sticky paper traps = 100%...................... 15 denier nylon is prescribed for good reason................ mite can ruin a crop, during treatments to kill them.................... only one thing can kill all stages of the mite life cycle....larvae, post larvae, adult and eggs.......................... hopefully you wont need to use it.... 'Harker's Harkamectin" one drop in one litre. end of game...........

i spray around the house on the walls that makes the flies go away,

dont let them in in the first place................... mosi netting is good kit !! as is 15 denier !! on intakes of air to cab and house..................... cut round hole in glass, aint easy............. but glass can be bought with hiooe cut and fitted..................... nothing gets in through crack in windows used for venting the room heat etc............

It will be a nightmare in summer, i will sure lose some hair

no you wont !!!!!!!! as above............ system management white'ty

They dont call me batman for nothing

you will be flying after first "vape" of ultimate for sure...............

am trying to install my 2 stage filter

i thought you had not bothered, as you havent mentioned it................. and you are manageing on bottled water................. when fitted anf flushed, post up a Ph & Ec.................. at the temp the water comes out the filter tap ok........... i'll av a look ok........ have you calibrated the Ec & Ph meters now ??.....

Infra red should be with me by Friday!

nice...................... it's needed.................. i need to see what temp your canopy leaves are, that dictaes light height you see !!!................ therefore growth !!

ULTIMATE 1....PH....EC
1st test............5.9....3.3
2nd test...........5.9....3.3

ULTIMATE 2....PH....EC
1st test............6.0....4.6
2nd test...........5.9....4.8

CRITICAL........PH....EC
1st test............6.0....3.2
2nd test...........6.1....2.8

AMNESIA.......PH....EC
1st test............5.9....2.8
2nd test...........5.9....2.8

the ultimate "2" and critical have the lime for sure................ Ph5.9 in the run off is to low................. you say you got between 7.5 and 8.3 Ph after aeration of the bottled water...................... after acidic nutes added Ph will drop to.............. 6.9 to 7.1 white'ty ??........

if so......................"Do Not" Ph down after adding nutes and root stim etc............................ we need an elevated Ph going into the Ph low medium ok.............. to raise up soil Ph.................... this will take 5 to 8 days to begin to raise the lighmix Ph...................

you can add a bi-carb slurry to the bucket after adding the nutes, to raise Ph up.................or you can add bio silicone, which is also "Quite Alkaline"............ which will also raise the Ph of the feed water.............. would be good to feed at Ph7 to 7.2 at the moment...................... speeding up the uprising of alkalinity in the Ph low grow medium...............lime causes different types of nutrient chelation (Nute Lock Out "Bio") and other antagonisms..... ............. low soil Ph is not good for the micro flora and fauna in the soil either........ it will retract at Ph 5.8 in soil,...................... your good root temp will slow this affect down though.........

White'ty, now is as gooda time as any, to ask the moderators to move this thread to the Dutch Passion ballroom................ as you are no longer having issues with your plants in the "Infirmary!".................... the DP boys will want to see this Ultimate ultimate grow, me thinks............... up to you thow bro.................. they aint sick no more !!.............you already got over 2000 views of the recovery, in the infirmary white'ty my man................. triple that dancing on the Lounge Floor of the DP Canna Ballroom !!.........................recon they should bring out there own branded o2vape type pen....... flip vape pen etc............ double the passion !! ALR

 

[WhiteLight]

1000m3 on a 580m3/hr is what we want............... as the low back presure means, in summer ambient say 28c + HPS @8c = 36c.............. the fan can pull down the cab temp to 2c above air @30c......... and keep the cab cooled due to speed of 'Air Flow management"................. which i know you can dial up on the controller to max.................... to keep the air in cab 2-3c above outdoor ambient....... we are not loosing hair this summer white;ty................. but you will be having a "White'ty".... when you get your chops round the 'Ultimate Ultimate" !!.................. white;ty !!!............... cant wait mate....

Others modify cars and bikes we modify grow tents This tent is going to be a nice enclosed enviroment working like a clock! Ultimates are packing up...Stems..leaves...all signs are showing massive results...i start being scared in a way...they are forming an army in there with nuclear bombs on the build....The secret service of scienctist is working on it

......... system management white'ty

All the way!

you will be flying after first "vape" of ultimate for sure...............

Im sure the first couple inhales will be something to remember. The idea that its my own grown staff it will make it even better...

i thought you had not bothered, as you havent mentioned it................. and you are manageing on bottled water................. when fitted anf flushed, post up a Ph & Ec.................. at the temp the water comes out the filter tap ok........... i'll av a look ok........ have you calibrated the Ec & Ph meters now ??.....

This guy sent me a part but it was leaking after i connected it..Maybe i didnt do a good job...Anyway he said tomorrow he will sent me a new one different style...
My pens are working ok. I have calibrating solutions and i keep samples of each solution in a closed little box for each solution where i test my pens to see if there is a misreading on them before i proceed to do any readings..

the ultimate "2" and critical have the lime for sure................ Ph5.9 in the run off is to low................. you say you got between 7.5 and 8.3 Ph after aeration of the bottled water...................... after acidic nutes added Ph will drop to.............. 6.9 to 7.1 white'ty ??........

if so......................"Do Not" Ph down after adding nutes and root stim etc............................ we need an elevated Ph going into the Ph low medium ok.............. to raise up soil Ph.................... this will take 5 to 8 days to begin to raise the lighmix Ph...................

you can add a bi-carb slurry to the bucket after adding the nutes, to raise Ph up.................or you can add bio silicone, which is also "Quite Alkaline"............ which will also raise the Ph of the feed water.............

Im not sure about the ph after i add my nutes in the feeding water. Im guessing its around ph 7 master....I will feed her tomorrow morning when light ON. I will give 2 ltrs to her........I will make a 0.5 per litre of nutrient mix of Grow Micro Bloom and my 2 root stims Voodoo and Piranha @ 1.5ml per litre each....I think this will give me a ph of 7 and an EC of 0.3 + bottle water EC 0.3 = EC 0.6 total.......Propably i will do this for 2 feedings...I will give her 5 days in this PH and EC...On the 6th day she will take EC 0.6 nute feed and ph 7(?) (ph i will know exactly tomorrow how much it will be with nute EC 0.3)....

OK master? Light feed of EC until we raise the PH right??

White'ty, now is as gooda time as any, to ask the moderators to move this thread to the Dutch Passion ballroom................ as you are no longer having issues with your plants in the "Infirmary!".................... the DP boys will want to see this Ultimate ultimate grow, me thinks............... up to you thow bro.................. they aint sick no more !!.............you already got over 2000 views of the recovery, in the infirmary white'ty my man..........

I will be more than glad to be in the Dutch Passion hood Its better to be there than here for sure...Excellent idea!!
Really 2000 views??? I had really no idea...Its because of you they visited this one Master, im sure Im sure a lot of new growers have found many help in this thread!

Yes they dont seem to have any major issues now...Just the PH and it will be sorted out in a week with the right treatment!! Thank you for opening the door Master!!

triple that dancing on the Lounge Floor of the DP Canna Ballroom !!.........................recon they should bring out there own branded o2vape type pen....... flip vape pen etc............ double the passion !! ALR

Dutch Passion will make a vaper? Cool i guess! This is like the cherry on top of the cake!

White'ty, now is as gooda time as any, to ask the moderators to move this thread to the Dutch Passion ballroom............

The only moderator i know is Waira.
@Waira my friend, can you move my thread there please?