Dutch Passion DP Ultimates first

So, i will add 2 x 25ltr buckets with my water inside the tent so the water can get a sweet temp.
I will add water pumps to this buckets to keep the water oxygenated right?

You can use two pumps, as i do, one for turning over = mixing the fresh reservoir as you are making it up, the 2nd is in the bucket you intend to use for next res build (15ltr).........

so 3no 25ltr bucket, 2no with standing water one of these has a pump in which is on a timer, this spins over mixes the water for 2x 15mins in 24hrs, to oxygenate and gas it and bring it up to "ROOM TEMP" before you take 15ltrs out into you 3rd empty 25ltr 'Reservoir Bucket".............. to make the fresh feed up in before you feed it fresh amde....

in this bucket you make feeds up fresh and feed them and leave this bucket empty between feeds................. you have 2no 25ltr standing buckets to make fresh feeds........... when one is empty, refill with bottled water.............. and move the conditioned one forward for use, a rotisserie of water moving through a treatment and conditioning process before you use it for feeding ok........... in the res bucket use the 2nd pump to spin over / mix / agitate the water while you are making up the feeds adding nutes etc.........

Master how i use this pump? I put my nutrients into the bucket and then i ph and then i hit the pump for a minute? This will not unstabilize the ph of the water after i added my ph down psosphate H3PO4??

use one pump to turn over a standing water bucket twice in 24hrs for 15mins in the grow space to get heat in also......

second pump in the 25ltr "Reservoir" bucket you make the 10ltr nutrient complex in before feeding fresh there and then after Ph'ing etc................ 2ltrs every other day in the 20ltr air pot, 1.5ltrs in the 15ltr pots, also every other day................. as you have pre whetted right to the bottom the whole pot will now remain moist for fine root fibers to explore nutrient possibility's !!

at the start of a grow it is fiddly making small amount of feed.................. when they get going they will scoff 20ltrs every other day..................... when young making up small amounts is tricky...............

as you need to mix the feed properly with the pump small amounts of water are a pain when using the mixing pump (Saves hrs Of Hand Mixing !)....,

i would put 15ltrs in the 25ltr res bucket, take the no nute Ec of water, then add nutes as halved schedule to hit the required Ec for the feed at that age........... (currenty nute only feed is Ec0.6)...you are at 0.3 nute only at the mo.......... so up your base nutrients grow, micro, bloom, add extra mls, 'Evenly" same for each one ml of each..... a tadd to shift Ec up......... add one or 2 extra ml's of .....of the base nutrients evenly, one ml of each etc...to move Ec nute only up to 0.6 + bottled water Ec0.3 = total 0.9 final Ec........... it's at 22-23c............. it's Ph'ed to 6.4

in veg we use "Nitric Acid" Ph down as it is nitrogen based, good for veg, in flower we use phosphorus / phosphorus pentoxide........ Ph down, as phos is good in flower, helps growth................(drop voodo now), add any thing else the AN schedule say's..... Ph to 6.4 water temp is 22-23c................... your good to feed it now right fresh made.................... they love that.............same temp as soil they love that too....... bang on the nute bliss point, the sweet spot, they like that tooo...

you made 15ltrs of feed up................... you used only 8 to 10ltrs.............................you have 5ltrs left over !! ......in the 25ltr res bucket ??.......... what to do with it ??????????? it will go stale right ? yes it will............... you can bin it,............. toilet, or you can just make the bucket back up to 15ltrs, when you make the next fresh feed......... make the stale water back up to 15ltrs you need to feed,

take the "Total"...Ec................ say it says.................... 0.5....in c stale nute,........... we know 0.3 is bottled water so 0.2 is "Residue Nute Ec" right.............

so we add nute to the Ec0.5 inc stale nute, in the 15ltrs of water, and add new nute 1ml of each etc...............untill TOTAL Ec "Re-Hits" 0.9.......... that is then the stale nute Ec lifted back up with new nute 'On Top" of stale, to our total target feed Ec = 0.9 inc bottled water Ec @0.3

ok............ hope you can take that in ok................. making up new nute on top of old left over stale nute in bucket from last feed leftovers !!.....................

Master one more question that is been in my head but couldnt find answer...What is the correct way to add my nutrients in the water? At what order?
Personally i add first Micro->Grow->Bloom->Voodoo->Piranha->B52 Is ok like this to mix?

""""i add first Micro->Grow->Bloom->Voodoo->Piranha->B52 Is ok like this to mix?"""""""

that is correct order, as AN schedule, start at the top of list, so micro 1st and so on, add this to your 15ltrs of bottles water in your 25ltr res bucket, which is being turned over / mixed / spun over / mixed by the pump on it's side in the bottom of the feed res bucket....................

add nutes take Ec as you add................. leave Ph'ing till the end............(veg Ph down use nitric acid, during flower use phosphorus Ph down ok)................water is correct temp as been in 26c grow space.............. hit the required Ec then Ph down....................when 6.4................... let em have it white'ty mate......... they will smile at you dad !!!!! for that feed

when dose "Infra Red" handheld thermometer arrive white'ty mate ?????????? many many use in our work

What update you mean??? Photo update???
You said to make photo update every 4 days. The 10th of March will be the 5th day.

every 4 to 5day, no later then 6, no earlier than 4 days.... is a sufficient 'Interval" for me to spot any issues.............. and prescribe accordingly.... and to watch the pheno type develop, and "Sex"...................auto's sex around 3wks 21 to 28 days we should see the first female organs appear, the calyx and pistils......... of gender determination.............

we have to watch for 'Staminate" this is a female that throws male pollen organs, as she is "Differentiated" gender confused............. if we get a male sex organ on a female plant........................we pinch it off as soon as it appears, there is zero harm done to the female automatic.................... as pollen did not get time to develop.................... as ALR spotted it and pulled it !!

2 days ago i added in 10Ltrs of water:
5ml of Micro, 5ml of Grow, 5ml of Bloom (0.5ml per Litre)
Then i added 20ml of Voodoo juice and 20ml of Piranha (2ml per Litre) then i ph'ed to 6.3
*Water before adding the nutes was EC 0.5 and after it was EC 0.8 = 0.3 EC

Bottled water Ec0.3.................................we need Ec0.5 to 0.6 max at the mo "Nute Only Ec"............. so final Ec is .........................0.3 bottled water plus nute 0.5 = total 0.8 to 0.9.............. spot on at the mo..........

make up as instructed above ok white'ty....... enjoy feeding them they will give you feed back in kind............. every time you go in with a fresh feed, or to get a warm bottled water bucket out to make a fresh feed............ you will look at them and think.................. they are bigger !!!!!!!!!!

calculator says that voodoo stops on the 2nd week. That means i will not use it anymore after the 14th day?

what i did with the AN calculator is this.................... i want half dose so........................in the litres box................... you want to make up 15ltrs in you 25ltr bucket,................... great in the litres drop down box on AN nute calculator just put in........... 7ltrs.......... that will give you the half dose figures, you want to make 15ltrs of feed............. put 7ltrs in the drop down box will give you the safe half dose for 15ltrs of feed...........................all nute company's double the nute dose to sell more nute faster...........................

when half doses are fine..............................you dont want high Ec's......................leaving un-used nute in the root matrix......................this will eventually swing the Ph negative or acidic........................locking out nutes and causing lots of over feeding issue................. nute is easy dose it, you can put in, but you cant take nute out !!!!!!!!!

Master B-52 will raise my feed propably by EC 0.2 if i add 1ml per litre. Is it ok to go with EC 0.8 feed at this stage? I could do it only to the DP Ulties and later to amnesia and criti...

Ec0.8 to 0.9................ TOTAL Ec is fine so your nute onl;y Ec is "0.5 to 0.6" make sure your Ec pen is calibrated correctly with the correct calibration fluid for that pen ok............. same for Ph pen................. every week once, check calibration...........................we need to know exactly what ewe are feeding........

Master i hope everything good right? They seem to love their new feed. The Ultimates are flyyyyyyyying so far!!!

feed back, always a joy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........................... what they love is the overwhelming factors of the environment and food, and light o2 and co2 that have swung into alignment, with their genetic programmed needs !!!!!!!!! we like this place........... lets get on and hope we can get fertilized and drop seed every where here !!!!!!!! they end up not fertilized, massive aroma and no insects or pollinators.............. just stack of trichome sugars shifting to resination !!.............. and final 'Fruitification" of trichome masses...

Yes, in my next update im going for the 85%!!

you will be 110% by the end of this grow.......... "White'ty" my friend.......... i am looking forward to seeing how much i can pack onto those ultimates,................... final fruiting Ec will be nute only with them dames = "0.9"...... + 0.3 = total 1.2................... plus Bud candy additives as no Ec just sugars............. you didant post pic of bud candy specs white'ty....

voodo juice is bacteria for soil.....= no Ec.......................piranna is microryzol & root micro phytoplancton..zero Ec..........b52 is vitamin and mineral pack........................low level Ec given off................. as some salts are in the vit & min pack........... b53 add all the way through ????

Im in middle east europe

Ok................

get his interrest on how to heal and how to improve CBD

better than someone else giving him other worse ideas !!!!!!!!............ better the softer, medical devil you know well right !!............................. sounds common sence, as they will find out anyhow !!!!!!!!! we will have to talk bio security white'ty....................... get a duct "Y" piece and add a second carbon filter the the "Y" duct piece ok..................... double you exit carbon filter capacity for now.......................... i will do flow check as soon as i can ok................ that is dose the fan out put match the flow handling capability of the carbon filter on the outflow of the extractor fan ???????????????/ better to have twice the carbon filtration capability, to the flow out put..............................using a "Y" shaped ducting piece with two filters attached top the Y............. one on each leg, double you safety................. so no risk of smell being pumped to next doors roof space or under floor or where ever no aroma leaks = safe............

make sure no light can get into the grow cab, when lights are out............................. you need to be inside to cab to see any light leaking into the cab................. from outside when the inside light grow lights are off.............................. no ligh can be allowed toleak into the cab during lights out white ok..........

in the market (they keep the good staff) is very expensive for me now that i have a hole house and family to support. I took the decision to quit smoking.

They might keep, what they call the good stuff....................... thay can only dream of the smoke you are going to end up with..................... that shite dry, brown crisp, Columbia field grow cac low power, block weed.................. is shite........

Im seriously thinking on starting vaping when i dry my first BUDS!!!!!!!!

o2vape !!!!!!......................... i packed in smoking nicotine with roll ups 1.5yr ago now......................... went onto pure weed blunts............................. but then found the BHO juice (Home made) into my vape pen................ is pure and clean....................and you feel the proper THC and CBD medi benefits.................... is stronger than a blunt also......................as its condensed cannabis resin in a liquid you can vape......................... read up on MCT C8 oil to make your BHO into a vape juice.........................

read re "MJMix" BHO liquidizer liquids............. PEG400 juice...........PEG400 = polyethyleneglycol dissolves BHO shatter / crystal........... i would not have it any other way nowadays........................ love the vape as no smell from it..............................can use anywhere with a bit of stelth !!!!!!!!!!!! no way they know you are getting stoned , it just looks like a vape pen !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will do ALR. With all this experience you must be growing for ages! Even the sticks are important!

I am a qualified scientists you see, in this order................... H.nd. B.Sc. M.Sc. Phd........... my B.Sc. is in "Fish"................... that means "Limnology"...................... !!!!!!!! then "Biology" of mammals and plants...... i can breed any fish, mammal or plant on the planet.................. and prescribe for health accordingly....... Fish is my 1st love in science.........

they was asking 0.50 c per 1

0.50cents......................... central eastern Eu !!!!!!!!!!!!............. France i recon !!!! swiss alps still on the cents also though.............

However, we need 4 1.5mtr long plastic coated plant support canes, per pot, and a 1.5mtr coil of rubber tie back bendy horticultural wire.......... to tie bows to canes before they flop over under the weight of fruits............. ask tee about that one !!!!!!!!! some of his fruits weigh in at 2lb wet !!!!!!!!!!!

Its very importand for me to understand the part with the 1500Ltrs/25Ltrs=60 seconds part.

your water feature pump will have on it.......................how many ltrs of water it can pump in one hour................. i have said i use a pump that can pump, shift, 1500ltrs of water per hour.................... an "Oase 1500ltr hour water feature pump or similar........................ i say "Oase" as a make as it is "very Quiet" in the 25ltr res bucket......................... sat on foam to dispel vibration into the floor people can hear it ok............

so how long to mix 25ltrs with a 1500ltr per hour pimp !!!!!!!!!! 1500 divide by 25ltr = the pump will pump all the 25ltr over in the bucket in 60 seconds.....................= 1500 divide by 25 = 60 seconds ok.............. or 1500ltrs divide by one hour "60". = 25 ltrs moved yes...................

1500ltr pump will shift the whole 25ltr bucket over in one minute......................... when you gotta make dinner after the feeding of the dames early in the evening just after lights on at 6Pm in the evening....................... they go off the following day at midday - 18/6........

a pump with a capacity of 1000ltrs per hour will do just as good....................

You are very optimistic person my friend.

I have been a "West ham United" Supporter all my living day's...................... that will teach from a young age top be optimistic !!!!!!!!!!!!! ....................... last time we won the FA Cup was 83 right tee ??? i have been a self employed entrepreneur all my day's also......... fundamentally though a "Carpenter" !! turned scientist !!!!!!

You really think i will ever grow a bud like in the photo above??

It is true, no one has been to the moon....................... but it is perfectly possible, if we wernt going to top those ultimate's, a donkey dick of those proportion would develop..................... using DP's gene bank !!!!!!!

I hope i make you a proud mentor one day my friend.

Like tee said.................. enjoy the ride throught the deep forest of science and knowledge required to get to the 'Ultimate" goal.................. top class cannabis, lots of it......................... 100 days grow right, you need 2g a day to get beetween each grow.......so you need 200g dry.................. from 4 = 50g dry from each right............... you will get 120-150 dry from each white ok..................... you got your 200g dry to smoke 'ill correct that "VAPE" between grows !!......................... the rest you can make BHO and store it in the freezer for years man................. then get out the ultimate BHO crystal and make some vape juice !!!!!

My wife says that you are a great person because people dont treat people like this in our days...Positive vibes

When you see these plants at the end of the grow, you will know why i do it !!!!! a pretty sight it is !! and a good feeling, knowing you taught someone the right way to do it....................... another life student !!!!........... you will allaways grow your own after the experience...................... it will cost you no more that 40 franc an oz........... 1g per watt of electricity used.................. = efficient !!

Waira the wizard of canna! Hello @Waira and nice to see

This man posses the "Nordle"........................ and a good know how, how to grow decent kit...... and is a born canna "Altruists" at heart, selfless canna information warrior......... like TeeTee, and our man Shabbas, joly decent sorts, salt of the earth................

nice work so far white'ty mate................... ALR

am living in a tropical climate myself..In a couple of months we will hit the 25C and then 30C and in summer mode we hit the 40 but 35 is average during summer...So this strains would thrive as an outgrow...

eastern Eu @35c............. on the cents..................... i am getting the picture white;ty man.......... could be Spain right..........................they hit near 40c last year....................... southern spain i wouldant bet...............

goodness of people that characterized my ancestors....Grandma ganja was growing different kind of amazing plants including mj in her traditional house using only goat manure :p I feel like i was born in the wrong timeline.....

growing's in the blood then white'ty mate................ peculated steeped 'Goat manure"................. those was some monster plants mate !!!!!!!!!!!.................. grandma new the score................... made her own to score !!!!!!!!!!! and put in her cakes no doubt......................... then give goat a piece of the cake >>??!!!! nice, what goes round come round in nature right ;)

Dioscorides (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedanius_Dioscorides) has named the generation of Eupatoriums to honor Mithridates VI Eupator Dionysius of Pontus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridates_VI_of_Pontus) who beside a King he was also a botanologist and a healer especially with Eupatorium species''

Eupatorium................ reportidly, some of the first plant groups to colonize soil on earth right................. you donrt need to know anymore than that.........Dionysius was a cracking stonner.........love the kit, wrote about it...... and it healing affects........ old has the hills white'ty.................. nice article man............ !!!!!!!!!

looking forward to the update pics.................. tommorow or day after !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice work white'ty........... get the infra red thermometer if you can...................... we need to take temperature at the soil top of the pots............... make sure we are hitting the 22-23c range for lightmix soil temps ok....................... top work mate........................they are looking well white;ty.................ALR
 
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so 3no 25ltr bucket, 2no with standing water one of these has a pump in which is on a timer, this spins over mixes the water for 2x 15mins in 24hrs, to oxygenate and gas it and bring it up to "ROOM TEMP" before you take 15ltrs out into you 3rd empty 25ltr 'Reservoir Bucket".............. to make the fresh feed up in before you feed it fresh amde....

-Master, why cant i use an aquarium heater to warm up water at soil temp? I allready put in an order in amazon for this 50w aquarium water heater and it will arrive soon along with the hand held infra red thermometer...
MASTER can i use this aquarium heater to warm up water couple of hours before i prepare my nute mix?

I understand that the only reason to place the buckets inside tent is just for the water to take the space temp, right master? Also 2 buckets of water inside there will not create more humidity?

If we NEED to put buckets in the tent then forget the above comments and please help me understand the following comments :) (Sorry i keep you busy my friend writing, and i know you write a lot. 2 posts and 1 page is gone!)
This is officialy my GROW BIBLE. I will create a back up with your comments as everything you saying i will find in front of me again and again in what i started doing. Better to have them saved and even better to see them in action so they stuck in my dna.

-If i take this white fermentation buckets they use for beer and wine you told me yesterday...If i put them inside the tent under the strong 600w light...This will not harm the water inside the buckets?
For how many days the water can stand there?
In one bucket i will have the 1500 pump running for 15 minutes every 12 hours. In the other bucket with water that will not get any pump the water will not go bad and start creating this algae on the inside of bucket as chlorine will disappear too...(i know this about algae from swimming pools)

If i find black buckets like the garbage bins, it will be protected by the light?

Also Master, the buckets will be open on the top once they are in the tent right? So the chlorine can evaporate right?

Master please let me know if i can still do this without the need to put any buckets inside the tent using the aquarium heater to warm up water to 22-23C (this will depend on the infrared calculations)

Does the water need to maintain the tent temps for over a period of time? Is it about PH, EC? I dont get it, sorry ALR



in veg we use "Nitric Acid" Ph down as it is nitrogen based, good for veg, in flower we use phosphorus / phosphorus pentoxide........ Ph down, as phos is good in flower, helps growth................(drop voodo now)

voodo juice is bacteria for soil.....= no Ec.......................piranna is microryzol & root micro phytoplancton..zero Ec..........b52 is vitamin and mineral pack........................low level Ec given off................. as some salts are in the vit & min pack........... b53 add all the way through ????

I will order the dutch pro ph down for growth (nitric acid).

Voodoo and Piranha are the only one bottles i didnt give half dose. So if i will stop Voodoo i will stop Piranha too, right? So when i will feed again, propably on Sunday morning (because soil still feels wet) OR tomorrow morning, then i will prepare only Micro Grow Bloom & B52??.....

B52 is on the schedule of calculator for all the grow stages from begining to the end.

The small plant no4 (smallest from photos i posted on Tuesday)....should i add only there Voodoo and Piranha?

I also have a huge bottle of CaMag+ from General Organics with 1-0-0


we have to watch for 'Staminate" this is a female that throws male pollen organs, as she is "Differentiated" gender confused............. if we get a male sex organ on a female plant........................we pinch it off as soon as it appears, there is zero harm done to the female automatic.................... as pollen did not get time to develop.................... as ALR spotted it and pulled it !!

Master, talking about Differentiated gender on feminized plants....I want to ask about your advice.....Its something a friend was asking me because he had a plant (Super Lemon Haze).....Yes this guy was growing a fem super lemon haze and at some point the plant experienced a heat stress and developped many seeds in her buds...The guy saved the seeds and he keeps them for long time now...Now, ALR do you know what is going on with these seeds? Are they good to drop in the soil? What will they produce? The seeds are in good condition hard and brown like they have to be........Thanks in advance!




what i did with the AN calculator is this.................... i want half dose so........................in the litres box................... you want to make up 15ltrs in you 25ltr bucket,................... great in the litres drop down box on AN nute calculator just put in........... 7ltrs.......... that will give you the half dose figures, you want to make 15ltrs of feed............. put 7ltrs in the drop down box will give you the safe half dose for 15ltrs of feed..

What a great idea! I tried it even with 3.5 and it even gives results in .5 format :)





feed back, always a joy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........................... what they love is the overwhelming factors of the environment and food, and light o2 and co2 that have swung into alignment, with their genetic programmed needs !!!!!!!!! we like this place........... lets get on and hope we can get fertilized and drop seed every where here !!!!!!!! they end up not fertilized, massive aroma and no insects or pollinators.............. just stack of trichome sugars shifting to resination !!.............. and final 'Fruitification" of trichome masses...

I had to remove the ventilation on my air cooled reflector 2 days ago. In this way during the day the tent is running on 27-28C constantly! So now im not using heater during the day...These temps are fatting up things quickly especially on the Ulties...



you will be 110% by the end of this grow.......... "White'ty" my friend.......... i am looking forward to seeing how much i can pack onto those ultimates,................... final fruiting Ec will be nute only with them dames = "0.9"...... + 0.3 = total 1.2..................plus Bud candy additives as no Ec just sugars............. you didant post pic of bud candy specs white'ty....

I shouldnt worry about the lime in soil right? ....I trust you 1000% master....One thing for sure the Ultimate without the lime is the gangster in the tent right now :p

Bud Candy:
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better than someone else giving him other worse ideas !!!!!!!!............

I dont know from where to start talking about the society of the new world they are creating atm...I can only imagine what is going to be after some years....So yes i better keep him out of this useless meaningless system and get him to love nature as its the only thing similar to us....A greek writer, Kazantzakis has said once, many years ago...''i was born without wanting to, i will die without wanting to...At least let me live how i want to!''


we will have to talk bio security white'ty....................... get a duct "Y" piece and add a second carbon filter the the "Y" duct piece ok..................... double you exit carbon filter capacity for now.......................... i will do flow check as soon as i can ok................ that is dose the fan out put match the flow handling capability of the carbon filter on the outflow of the extractor fan ???????????????/ better to have twice the carbon filtration capability, to the flow out put..............................using a "Y" shaped ducting piece with two filters attached top the Y............. one on each leg, double you safety................. so no risk of smell being pumped to next doors roof space or under floor or where ever no aroma leaks = safe............

My friend i have to tell you what has happened here.....When i placed my order from this hydroponic shop....I ordered 580m3/h fan and 500m3/h carbon filter.....I used the filter for a month and now it feels like its not sucking good....After some reading on the AFN i found out that the filter has to has a small bigger difference than the fan size........Have i locked my filter?? If i was to order a new filter what size should i choose? 600m3/h is good for my fan?

Its very disappointing that the guy from the hydroshop i made my order (big order $$) didnt warn me about this.....Is my filter really broken? How i can now for sure that is not working?......

Thanks in advance!!

make sure no light can get into the grow cab, when lights are out............................. you need to be inside to cab to see any light leaking into the cab................. from outside when the inside light grow lights are off.............................. no ligh can be allowed toleak into the cab during lights out white ok..........

Everything OK master!



They might keep, what they call the good stuff....................... thay can only dream of the smoke you are going to end up with..................... that shite dry, brown crisp, Columbia field grow cac low power, block weed.................. is shite........

Im just sick of this system they have....And the dealers will even remove 0.2 from 1 gramm you paying....thats their joint for bringing you shit.....And also acting like they are the saviors...the black market gurus....the gangsters of sicily.....LOL



o2vape !!!!!!......................... i packed in smoking nicotine with roll ups 1.5yr ago now......................... went onto pure weed blunts............................. but then found the BHO juice (Home made) into my vape pen................ is pure and clean....................and you feel the proper THC and CBD medi benefits.................... is stronger than a blunt also......................as its condensed cannabis resin in a liquid you can vape......................... read up on MCT C8 oil to make your BHO into a vape juice.........................

read re "MJMix" BHO liquidizer liquids............. PEG400 juice...........PEG400 = polyethyleneglycol dissolves BHO shatter / crystal........... i would not have it any other way nowadays........................ love the vape as no smell from it..............................can use anywhere with a bit of stelth !!!!!!!!!!!! no way they know you are getting stoned , it just looks like a vape pen !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like tee said.................. enjoy the ride throught the deep forest of science and knowledge required to get to the 'Ultimate" goal.................. top class cannabis, lots of it......................... 100 days grow right, you need 2g a day to get beetween each grow.......so you need 200g dry.................. from 4 = 50g dry from each right............... you will get 120-150 dry from each white ok..................... you got your 200g dry to smoke 'ill correct that "VAPE" between grows !!......................... the rest you can make BHO and store it in the freezer for years man................. then get out the ultimate BHO crystal and make some vape juice !!!!!

Will get there when the time comes....I will have to make a good reading because i know nothing about vapes :p Infact i never tried anything like this....



I am a qualified scientists you see, in this order................... H.nd. B.Sc. M.Sc. Phd........... my B.Sc. is in "Fish"................... that means "Limnology"...................... !!!!!!!! then "Biology" of mammals and plants...... i can breed any fish, mammal or plant on the planet.................. and prescribe for health accordingly....... Fish is my 1st love in science.........

You didnt had to say it....I understood from the way you are talking xD Bravo my friend!!....I dont really know what are all these titles you have and im sorry about this but i am sure you melted your ass on the chair to get them.....Congrats and respect from both me and my wife...She is shocked.....She considers stoners kind of bad people with no education :p I explained her many many times about this plant about the therapeutic use of it but the brain wash the system especially the media does to people is beyond my powers :)



0.50cents......................... central eastern Eu !!!!!!!!!!!!............. France i recon !!!! swiss alps still on the cents also though............
eastern Eu @35c............. on the cents..................... i am getting the picture white;ty man.......... could be Spain right..........................they hit near 40c last year....................... southern spain i wouldant bet...........

Ehm somewhere near France....xD We used to be a colony of great B...but we made them retreat with rusty guns.....This was many years ago...I was not even born.....

ask tee about that one !!!!!!!!! some of his fruits weigh in at 2lb wet !!!!!!!!!!!

@Teetee i will need an instruction drowing later on, on how to tie bow those buds buddy...Stay close harvest time is just around the bend :p



I have been a "West ham United" Supporter all my living day's...................... that will teach from a young age top be optimistic !!!!!!!!!!!!! ....................... last time we won the FA Cup was 83 right tee ??? i have been a self employed entrepreneur all my day's also......... fundamentally though a "Carpenter" !! turned scientist !!!!!!

The hope dies last my friend :) But im sure that football has nothing to do with fair play anymore :p

A scientist! It was your secret desire but your made up character didnt let you see it and follow it from the begining. Im glad you broke the bond with the ordinary and follow your instict....




When you see these plants at the end of the grow, you will know why i do it !!!!! a pretty sight it is !! and a good feeling, knowing you taught someone the right way to do it....................... another life student !!!!...........

You seem to know exactly who you are dear ALR....You have reached the higher levels xD

This man posses the "Nordle"........................ and a good know how, how to grow decent kit...... and is a born canna "Altruists" at heart, selfless canna information warrior......... like TeeTee, and our man Shabbas, joly decent sorts, salt of the earth................

nice work so far white'ty mate................... ALR

Its people like this that keep the balance at the momment...As long as we have this power of goodness we are in safe way....



nice, what goes round come round in nature right ;)

Its not a coincidence ALR. It was designed like this Right? Right!



Eupatorium................ reportidly, some of the first plant groups to colonize soil on earth right................. you donrt need to know anymore than that.........Dionysius was a cracking stonner.........

You had me cracking up here :crying::cheers:

looking forward to the update pics.................. tommorow or day after !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nice work white'ty........... get the infra red thermometer if you can...................... we need to take temperature at the soil top of the pots............... make sure we are hitting the 22-23c range for lightmix soil temps ok....................... top work mate........................they are looking well white;ty.................ALR

Sure thing master. Cant wait to show you the progress we made!!
Its my personal paradise ALR. Joy and love every time i look at them....Previous grow had put me in many bad feelings but..........Thank you from the bottom of my heart!! :smiley1:
 
@AutoLowRyder ALR!!! I see some yellowing on the leave of the Ultimate in LIME!!!!!!! Its happening again the same shit that happened the first time!!!!! :(((

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@AutoLowRyder @Teetee @Waira I’ve just finished reading through this thread with my morning coffee, it’s been quite the ride. One thing about AFN that never ceases to amaze me is the effort and commitment of its members to help others. Your efforts here are very commendable and inspiring to new growers like myself and @WhiteLight. Thank you for your knowledge and time. By journaling your grow Whitelight, your successes and setbacks become learning opportunities for others as well. Thank you all
 
@AutoLowRyder @Teetee @Waira I’ve just finished reading through this thread with my morning coffee, it’s been quite the ride. One thing about AFN that never ceases to amaze me is the effort and commitment of its members to help others. Your efforts here are very commendable and inspiring to new growers like myself and @WhiteLight. Thank you for your knowledge and time. By journaling your grow Whitelight, your successes and setbacks become learning opportunities for others as well. Thank you all

Hello Beerhunter! The beauty of common good is that it builds healthy and sustainable enviroment for people and nature to survive all together and not dividing people into categories where everyone is for him/herself. You have to want the common good of all as personal interest was created after our creation on purpose from beings who want to suck all life from earth............May the passion and commitment you see from other good people be your guide and common good be your general rule as it is above anything else in this life....

Welcome aboard the magic journey with captain ALR :smiley1:
 
ATTENTION ATTENTION............UPDATE INFORMATION!! @AutoLowRyder @Teetee @Waira


In the Tent:
600w mh distance 86 cm (34 inches)
Light schedule: 18/6
Room temp light ON: 26-28C
Room temp light OFF: 24-28C
RH: 50-55%

Today i feed them EC 0.6 of Grow/Micro/Bloom, B-52, Voodoo and Piranha (The last feed of Voodoo and Piranha is Today)


Dutch Passion (breeder) Auto Ultimate no1
Day 14
1.5ltr feed EC 0.6
9 cm height

She seems to handle well the 0.6 and her feedback is always wonderful to see! She is the gangster atm in the hood!
She is opening her arms like she wants to take up all the tent :))

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DP auto Ultimate no2 (lime in soil)
Day 14
1ltr feed EC 0.6
9 cm height

This lady with the lime in soil has showed me a very slight yellowing between the veins of the big leaves last night and i didnt know what to do. In the morning after the reset from sleep i decided to feed them since the soil started to feel dry. She seems to take the feed well but i will keep an eye on her.

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Critical +2.0 (propably with lime)
Day 12
1ltr feed EC 0.6
8 cm height

She has shown a lot of growth in 4 days!! Overall watering the colump with root stimulator as instructed has blown up the situation.

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Amnesia xxl (propably with lime)
Day 11
0.5ltr feed EC 0.6
6cm height

Still waiting for my little one to start walking. Atm she is a happy little girl. Hopefully soon to see more from her. Maybe its her strain maybe its the lime...I really dont have a clue....But im here for her supporting and providing all i can!! I LOVE you my little one!!

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@AutoLowRyder Hope everything good in your world master!
You like my presentation? How are they looking my friend? Been really in panik last night but i was so sleepy n tired that i just couldnt worry more. Today she is so much better. I think we will not have serious problems from her...
We will see....








 
If i was to order a new filter what size should i choose? 600m3/h is good for my fan?

For your 580m3/hr (Thermostatic controlled fan?), i would buy the "Y" shaped 125mm duct piece and zip ties or duct clamps................ connect to the Y piece, with short pieces of 125mm ducting, "2No 125mm, 500m3/hr capacity carbon filters.................. so you have 2no 500 = 1000m3/hr low back pressure filtering capacity, receiving 580m3/hr........................ these 2no filters, fitted to the Y piece 2 way connector, are on the outflow side of the extractor fan. The fan can be outside the grow cab, and the fan intake duct, brought out of the cab, through a drawstring sock hole...........

on the inside of the cab, you have the fan intake 125mm 'Acoustic" ducting.................... either picking up cold air from the floor, or hot air from the top of the cab, depending on how you manage the cab temperature, 'Winter" and "Summer".........

the guy from the hydroshop i made my order (big order $$) didnt warn me about this.....Is my filter really broken? How i can now for sure that is not working?......

extractor fans can draw air in though a carbon filter, or push air out of a carbon filter................ air drawn in though the outside of a carbon filter, has to go through the supplied white cloth on the outside of the filter........... trapping "Dust", and can be removed for washing............

a carbon filter pushing air out of a carbon filter from the inside............ if not dust filtered, will and can block the inside of the carbon filter with dust.................. i use 15 denier nylon to filter dust from any intakes into the space, passive or non passive................... you only have one fan, so your extracting air, pulled into the cab passively, through the bottom vents.............. the mesh on those vents is not as fine as the 15 denier nylon dust filter.........

What i do is, i have one large carbon filter on the intake side of my fan, on the air out flow side, which exits the ceiling (I am in a room, not a cab), in my room, where it joins the Y peice and connected to that Y pece 2 more carbon filters, giving me triple protection and low back presure, when the fan kicks in to high speed, when temp exeeds 28c.................. when temp drops back to 25c, the fan drops back to idle speed..... you choose best way for you....................

if you have a cab in a small back room, the hot air will be pumped out into the house, heating it up........... better to have the outflow of hot air, into the loft above............... if no loft, have the window, if double glazed on the latch, so new air can get in and the heat seep away........... if you have a loft above you............. cut a 125mm hole in the ceiling, and pass the dust through, and have the Y piece and twin carbon filters in the loft, air will be drawn in "Only" then from the ajar window, or under the room door............ passive new air into the space.......

have you a loft above you ?? or concrete floors no loft, window only in room ??.......... is there a fireplace in the room white'ty ?? we can use fire place to push warm air up and out of space, drawing in new air under door etc..............

I had to remove the ventilation on my air cooled reflector 2 days ago. In this way during the day the tent is running on 27-28C constantly! So now im not using heater during the day...These temps are fatting up things quickly especially on the Ulties...

You are on 18/6 light schedule......... so the temp will drop when light goes off............ is why i mentioned the "Max & Min" greenhouse murcury type thermometer, to record lights out 'Low Temp"............. so you know what temp is dropping to during lights out.................. you say 27-28c constantly, yea when lights are on 18hrs............ no heat during the 6 hoyurs dark period........................ i have to heat my space with a 1kw floor fan heater when lights are out, as the fan suck the warm air out of the room, so heater fan kicks in when the temp drop below 24c..................... and drops out again at 27c................... you must keep temp up during lights out white'ty................. you mentioned an oil rad ??........................ they are slow to respond with heat, fan heaters are better..............light out heating...

why cant i use an aquarium heater to warm up water at soil temp? I allready put in an order in amazon

if you dont have room in tent for the 2no 25ltr water buckets..................= "Free Heating" by side affect of cab temp.................. you can heat them outside cab or grow tent, with aquarium heater,................ but it will add electricity to the grow bill..................... youve payed for heat in cab allready !! if you got room why not use it............... re algae in buckets, double black bag the outside of bucket prevent light getting in to form algae............ cover top of bucket from light for same reason............. but not sealed, we need air in to water ok......................

buckets of water inside there will not create more humidity?

@26-28c............... as "RH" is a factor of temperature, the RH @28c will be lower, so no harm a small amount of transpiration from the 2 covered buckets, in the grow cab................... we never want RH = relative humidity to exceed 60%........................ as when there is that amount of water in air, the carbon filter begins to fail, as pores block with moisture, preventing "Adsorption" of VOc's................ terpens, = volatile organic substances........ all we do is raise the temp to proper tropical, the plant loves = 28 to 32c........... RH drops away then, what ever the air temp and RH outside the cab.................. we control inside.........RH with heat...

If i put them inside the tent under the strong 600w light...This will not harm the water inside the buckets?
For how many days the water can stand there?

it will only take 48hr for the water temp to be raised by the cab air @28c etc........... one bucket is 4 days feed water at 10ltrs every other day at the moment so you have 2no 25ltr buckets = 8 days water............. use one shuffle them warm to fron cold new bottled to the back bucket as explained before re buckets use...... you will cover the top of bucket so no light can get into the water............... but not a sealed lid, so air can get in........... the bucket covered in black plastic to prevent algae growth also..........

the bucket you make your feed up in will also have to be blacked out, and non airtight covered lid etc....and kept in tjhe cab also to maintain water temp........... as we may have 8ltrs of mixed nute 'Left Over" from previous feed, as i mentioned above how to make up a feed with this residue of the previous feed, already discussed above ok.........

start creating this algae on the inside of bucket

covered above.................... cover bucket sides with black plastic blocking light, same for lids......... but not sealed lids so air can get in..........

If i find black buckets like the garbage bins, it will be protected by the light?

they are black so yea,.................... you want a 25ltr vessel, that no lihght can enter when in cab space staying warm !!

buckets will be open on the top once they are in the tent right? So the chlorine can evaporate right?

buckets open top, closed of to light but not sealed...........blacked out buckets as above

(this will depend on the infrared calculations)

many uses for this hand held infra red temp gauge..........

Does the water need to maintain the tent temps for over a period of time?

48hrs will see the water at cab air temp................ once at the temp i cab be used, 2no 25ltrs gives you 8 days water............ plenty of time for temp to rise and gasses to go in to bottled water...............

So if i will stop Voodoo i will stop Piranha

if thats what the AN calc says, stop it, when it says......... when the flowers get to hazelnut size, we switch to flower nute from veg................. calc will output what you need............... our nute only Ec at that stage will be higher............. than now....................... i said in previous text, now......at this stage day8-10 etc......... set nute only Ec at '0.6".................... thats a bit high i recon,................. drop it back to '0.4" nute only Ec whitey ok.........

adding the grow, micro then bloom as schedule plus any other additives..............KEEP THE ROOT STIM GOING IN RIGHT UP TILL FLOWERS SHOW, THEN WE WILL DROP THE ROOT STIM THEN OK...... veg = nitric acid Ph down, flower Ph down we use phosphorus......

B52 is on the schedule of calculator for all the grow stages from begining to the end.

yep, look a good program to me.............. and you have all the additives........... for flowering potential...

The small plant no4 (smallest from photos i posted on Tuesday)....should i add only there Voodoo and Piranha?

all plants get the same dose of nutes, Ec0.4 + water Ec0.3 = total Ec0.7 (Not 0.9) as previus instructed............... dont want to push them to hard with nute at the moment, as run offs where up in the 2.0Ec range !! one res one feed, single fresh batches made and fed fresh......... every other day, then once a week every third day to let them dry out a bit once a week white'ty ok........

the plant experienced a heat stress and developped many seeds in her buds...

can he use those seeds, you ask ??........................... as they are from a plant that was "Hermaphroditic" the seeds produced will carry that dodgy gene,................ so therefore those plants will show Hamafroditism" also.................... and riun another crop with hermie beans................ you cant use those seeds as they carry the hermie gene in them from the herm mother.................... bin them beans

I shouldnt worry about the lime in soil right? ....I trust you 1000% master....One thing for sure the Ultimate without the lime is the gangster in the tent right now :p

The ultimates will dominate the light in the space like animals !!

Re lime in ultimate no2 pot...................... you said you only put in to the 15 / 20ltrs this time "2no tablespoons" in 15 and or the 20 ltr pots correct ??????? if so.............. 2no tablespoons of lime in each pot will make no difference, as such a low level per ltr of soil ok............................. it was 2no tablespoons of lime per 15ltr or 20ltr pot right white;ty ?????????????

.the black market gurus....the gangsters of sicily.....LOL

near France............... Sicily............. south eastern Europe.............. summer temps 35 to 40c................. you in Italy then White'ty mate ????????????? ............ say what country you is in aint going to be a prop bro !!!!!!! you are private browsing right ?? or through a VPN etc ?????? not aprob saying wat country you is in bro ok ;)

Ehm somewhere near France

Palermo !!!!!!!!!............................. aw that Turbot pasta alfonso !!!

We used to be a colony of great B

probably, we run the world at one point !! since giving it all back, it's gone to rat shite !!!!!!!! only kidding :)

ALR!!! I see some yellowing on the leave of the Ultimate in LIME!!!!!!! Its happening again

with this pot white'ty, can you get me a run off measure like this man;

usual warm water "No Nute"............. Ph it to "6", in 15ltrs semi moist, you will need at least 5 to 8ltrs to get the 200ml run off ................... Ph it as soon as it runs out ok................... so the salts in the tray cant affect the run off etc................ post it back here asap......................... ok....................... if it is acidic, say the run off is Ph 5.6.............. we will need to prepare a 'Molar Solution" of "Bi-Carbonate Of Soda".............. to flush through the lime soil and raise the Ph back up over several 'Alkaline Flushing" to restore Ph back to range 6.2 to 6.8 in the lightmix soil................ ok........................ dont panic.................. the ultimate can handle it................. the fact that the smallest ultimate, is in the lime pot means nothing............ pheno and geno types can be that way.............. it's called "genetic variance".................. the spread of genetic outcomes, during hybridization, the swapping of genetic material...........

i just posted this, and found your update white'ty...............you say the ultimate no2 is ok now......... i'll just pop up above this post and have a look.............. ALR

i just did !!.................... looking at ultimate 1 and 2............. and the others............. i re tract the above Ec....!!!!!!!! keep em on the 0.6 nute only feed, as they look like they can handle it now they are a bit older......................... the color looks stonking picture of health.............

And finally;

As teetee is a tad shy, i will telll you his best single plant weight was from a Dutch passion "AutoExtreme"...................... dry weight was 'Half Kilo" and 38 grams = 538g dry from memory.......... not bad from one automatic............. some quality "Plant Husbandry".... via that canna culturists...... cracking plant it was too....................... grown using rainwater.......ALR

look through this window, tell me what you see.......... order out of chaos = Shinto !
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You like my presentation? How are they looking my friend? Been really in panik last night but i was so sleepy n tired that i just couldnt worry more. Today she is so much better. I think we will not have serious problems from her...

When you have the grow under your belt, you will sleep soundly !!.................... look into the 'Jardin" above.......... and chill................... all is ok with the dames.............

re the amnesia little one...................... i mentioned "genetic variance" right................ here we have an example............ teetee has one right now "PAK2"................ is a small one, but these can be double potency items...................... dont worry re the runt amnesia white'ty ok..................... she will be fine.......and deliver like the rest are going to..................... for sure....................

Critical +2.0 (propably with lime)
Day 12
1ltr feed EC 0.6
8 cm height

yes update imfo with each picture is fine white'ty.................. you forgot the Ph you fed the 0.6Ec.... so it reads Ec0.6 (Nute Only) + feed was Ph'ed to 6.4 @22-23c so it looks like this; (copy) for next updates

Amnesia xxl plant 4
Day 12 from germination
1ltr feed every other day @23c
Feed nute only Ec0.6 = + water Ec @0.3 = total Ec 0.9
Feed Ph'ed to 6.4 with nitric acid (Veg)
Root temp is 22-23c
Lights on temp 26-28c
Light out temp 23-24c

alls well with white'ty then, in "Italy" ??????????????? only kidding ;).. keep the root stim going in bro !! your next update is 13 or 14th March bro........... 4th week of june, or there a bouts is harvest............................ for that you will need 10no "500ml Kilner Screw Top Jars" to cure your bud in post drying white'ty ok................ in each jar you will need "2no Boveda Packs"............ google boveda RH62% packs !!!!!!!!!!!! ALR
 
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Waira the wizard of canna! Hello @Waira and nice to see that more legends are watching my thread. It was one of your posts that had me order optic multipurpose foliar my friend.....

Guys as the days pass i see that the only pot i didnt add lime is thriving! This one Ultimate i didnt add lime in soil has double the size old and new growth!....
:eek1: :haha: ...oh, no no no, I'm no "legend" mate, thanks just the same! I consider myself competent, no better...
Optic Foliar is good stuff for sure. I use the Transport alone for a variety of uses with other products. It's especially good at dealing with stubborn micronute defc.'s like Fe, Zn, Mn, Cu... immobile nutes, meaning the plant can't translocate them from other older established tissues to new growth, this is why they show there first and worst,... Transport is the product that allows temporary penetration through the cuticle layer, allowing whatever is in the solution with it to get hauled directly in, instead of going through the stomata alone.... I like to spoil the girls some during veg' with a foliar spray of pure fulvic (Ful-Power), Si, mild dose of micro's (Earth Juice Microblast is me fav', much of it compounded with sulfates so you get a nice boost of S as well), just to keep on tops of demands, prevention! (BTW, if you use Transport, don't use a wetting agent along with it, not needed, and Dinesh the owner says it's not recommended)...

Yeah, too much lime can cause more trouble than help! One of my friends who grows in Canada, in-ground, over-limed a couple spots and ended up battling B defc. for a little while....:doh:... too much Ca screws with uptake of certain other cation nutes.... worse, it doesn't show the more obvious toxicity symptoms on the leaves like many others do! Usually it shows itself in other lock-outs, which in turn becomes a little tangle to figure out what's causing the lock-out: plain lack-of, off pH, bad cross reaction with other nutes, antagonistic/competitive uptake issue... Ca (ionic and carbonate) can build up, becoming a cumulative thing, very sneaky- :doh:.... Have you read up on chelation, and humic-fulvics yet? There's some good introduction artiles in Reference section,... I'm sure ALR can blow this up way more than I can, and I'm all ears and eyes,.. over my time here in Sick Bay, I'm suspecting more and more that often some of the troubles I see trace back to too much Ca-Mg input, from supp's and/or water,.... So many use LED's too, which seems to mandate increased use Ca-Mg products :shrug:... here is where the "more is better" miscue bites you in the butt!
 
these 2no filters, fitted to the Y piece 2 way connector, are on the outflow side of the extractor fan. The fan can be outside the grow cab, and the fan intake duct, brought out of the cab, through a drawstring sock hole..

My fan is not thermostatic but i like the idea of it. But thanks to this machine i bought i have all the setup running thermostatically..It costed some bucks but well worth it until now.....
I will wash the cover of filter to see if its stucked with dust and test it again...I hope i solve this without getting in more expences.....I have my export duct coming out of the top of the tent to the door on the balcony. so the air is going out of the house. I will propably use 2 x 500m3/h filters like you said or i will use 1 x 600m3/h carbon filter...somehow i need to solve this soon....
I also run an intake fan. The ducting is inside the room now because air is still cold outside but later it will be attached on my window to drow fresh air from out...I cuted a hole on the window glass and i can easily attach the duct there and i used some old pots on the outside to cover the hole...I have the duct covered with net for particles and pests but your suggestion of 15 denier nylon sounds more proffesional and i will try it soon ;)
The area here is super quiet maybe 3-4 cars pass by every day and no people at all except my neighboor who is a party animal and doing coke all the time...He will not have a problem with the smell :))))) The rest of the sorrounding area is plain fields and mountains. Other houses far away...
No seriously master im just kidding, i will get it sorted out soon...very soon..

i have to heat my space with a 1kw floor fan heater when lights are out, as the fan suck the warm air out of the room, so heater fan kicks in when the temp drop below 24c..................... and drops out again at 27c................... you must keep temp up during lights out white'ty................. you mentioned an oil rad ??........................ they are slow to respond with heat, fan heaters are better..............light out heating...

Yes they are slow these oil radiators thats why some morning i find my hygrometers memory with temps low as 23C. I dont know for how much time they sit in that temp but i have the feeling that the average temp in the night is around 26C....
I will save the fan heater you mention to try it in November....Atm the room temp im in is 18C and soon it will go 20C and then 25C....Its not far away this summer...This weather i have now will propably give me the best grow from all the year as it has the best temps....
Normally cannabis outgrowers are sprouding and preparing right now at this momment...When April is near they transplant out and wait for October to harvest...




if you dont have room in tent for the 2no 25ltr water buckets..................= "Free Heating" by side affect of cab temp.................. you can heat them outside cab or grow tent, with aquarium heater,................ but it will add electricity to the grow bill..................... youve payed for heat in cab allready !! if you got room why not use it............... re algae in buckets, double black bag the outside of bucket prevent light getting in to form algae............ cover top of bucket from light for same reason............. but not sealed, we need air in to water ok......................

All is Ok. I fully undertood your concept master!! I get the first impression and by doing it i will get it 100%...Thanks once again for showing me the right way!




KEEP THE ROOT STIM GOING IN RIGHT UP TILL FLOWERS SHOW, THEN WE WILL DROP THE ROOT STIM THEN OK...... veg = nitric acid Ph down, flower Ph down we use phosphorus......

Got it got it got it!!! Tho the calculator says to use it for the first 2 weeks of VEG and first 2 weeks of BLOOM. But we use it full in VEG so no need to use it after in bloom...You know better...I dont understand what we are doing here....But i have some thoughts as to why we are doing this....


can he use those seeds, you ask ??........................... as they are from a plant that was "Hermaphroditic" the seeds produced will carry that dodgy gene,................ so therefore those plants will show Hamafroditism"

Okey!

Re lime in ultimate no2 pot...................... you said you only put in to the 15 / 20ltrs this time "2no tablespoons" in 15 and or the 20 ltr pots correct ??????? if so.............. 2no tablespoons of lime in each pot will make no difference, as such a low level per ltr of soil ok............................. it was 2no tablespoons of lime per 15ltr or 20ltr pot right white;ty ?????????????

3tbspns in 20 litre pots
2tbspns in 15 litre pots



near France............... Sicily............. south eastern Europe.............. summer temps 35 to 40c................. you in Italy then White'ty mate ????????????? ............ say what country you is in aint going to be a prop bro !!!!!!! you are private browsing right ?? or through a VPN etc ?????? not aprob saying wat country you is in bro ok ;)

Palermo !!!!!!!!!............................. aw that Turbot pasta alfonso !!!

My friend ALR its very small world...I dont know who is reading here...I dont even want to make someone thinking...Its small country where i live and people know each other...We are not even 800.000 citizens...And we are all known to each other....I dont know...Im affraid to say...I never use private browsing or VPN but i will start using VAPE soon :))))

Anyway lets stick to Palermo...Si seniore? :p



probably, we run the world at one point !! since giving it all back, it's gone to rat shite !!!!!!!! only kidding

In a way there is truth inside this comment....You didnt give back anything you just split the pie...Vatican which is London & New York controll creates the illusions we thing is true but its not true its just to controll our way of thinking....These 'kings' design the future and what will happen in the world...They claim to be ancestors of Great Alexander...Faces that are unknown to us (not to me) but running the show all over the world....There is a reason why we are devided in countries...There is a reason why british are like this...spanish like that...italians like that...americans like that etc....All the countries are devided into kingdoms...Someone is controlling the West other the East other the North and other the South...4 kingdoms into 12 smaller kingdoms for each from the 4 kingdoms.....Who runs the world is not human beings....They are lizards my friend with 5 dimensions....Currently we as humans are only 2dimensionals...Horizontal and Vertical....The 5th dimensions beings can enter the rem state of sleep...after 4-5 in the morning....And do a lot there...to us...But above us we have the watchers....Those are 7 dimensionals...



with this pot white'ty, can you get me a run off measure like this man;

usual warm water "No Nute"............. Ph it to "6", in 15ltrs semi moist, you will need at least 5 to 8ltrs to get the 200ml run off ................... Ph it as soon as it runs out ok................... so the salts in the tray cant affect the run off etc................ post it back here asap......................... ok....................... if it is acidic, say the run off is Ph 5.6.............. we will need to prepare a 'Molar Solution" of "Bi-Carbonate Of Soda".............. to flush through the lime soil and raise the Ph back up over several 'Alkaline Flushing" to restore Ph back to range 6.2 to 6.8 in the lightmix soil................ ok........................ dont panic.................. the ultimate can handle it................. the fact that the smallest ultimate, is in the lime pot means nothing............ pheno and geno types can be that way.............. it's called "genetic variance".................. the spread of genetic outcomes, during hybridization, the swapping of genetic material...........

Sure thing master! Its a 20ltr pot so i will use 10-12 litres of my bottle water...Problem is that i need to buy new tomorrow cause i have only 5 ltrs atm aerating..So i will buy it in the morning and open it to evaporate chlorine and make the sample the next morning...Its not like you want but i cant risk to give chlorinate water to the soil right??



looking at ultimate 1 and 2............. and the others............. i re tract the above Ec....!!!!!!!! keep em on the 0.6 nute only feed, as they look like they can handle it now they are a bit older......................... the color looks stonking picture of health.............

YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS stonking picture of health!! Thats exactly what i needed to hear!!! WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

And finally;

As teetee is a tad shy, i will telll you his best single plant weight was from a Dutch passion "AutoExtreme"...................... dry weight was 'Half Kilo" and 38 grams = 538g dry from memory.......... not bad from one automatic............. some quality "Plant Husbandry".... via that canna culturists...... cracking plant it was too....................... grown using rainwater.......ALR

He is not shy when he is vaping those 538g's but he is shy to tell me...OOOKKKK :))) I can imagine him when he was jarring up those buds and i feel happy for him!!
A single Auto can do that yield??? I guess DP has gone on to the other side of the breeding evolution and my friend Teetee is a raper of DP's strains :)))))


look through this window, tell me what you see.......... order out of chaos = Shinto !

What are you watching master?? I havent watch anything for a long time...Any suggestions?
 
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