Dutch Passion DP Ultimates first

forming an army in there with nuclear bombs on the build....The secret service of scientist is working on it :chef:

Just call me "M"...................

The idea that its my own grown staff it will make it even better...

there nothing like vaping your own, high grade, pure as driven snow vape liquid................ you know it is pure, you made it !!!!!!!!!!................. have a look at honey bee BHO extractor tubes............. for butane white'ty

pens are working ok. I have calibrating solutions and i keep samples of each solution in a closed little box for each solution where i test my pens to see if there is a misreading on them before i proceed to do any readings..

on the glass probe anodes, the salts of the nutrient adhere to the glass, this throws the reading, after consecutive "Dippings" the salts build up on the anodes.......... this is why you "Flick" the probe after dipping for a reading, this flicks of residual water, slowing the build up of nutrient salts on the glass anode....... you only nee to check calibration every couple of weeks................... as salts take time to condensate onto the glass anode................ glad you got re cal fluids................ is important part of culture, "salt Control" !!!

OK master? Light feed of EC until we raise the PH right??

Qs; Did You Get 3no pot of "Bi-Carb Of Soda" ?............... from supermarket cake baking section ??................ to add to our nutrient mix, "After" making up nutrients..................... we add bi-carb to raise nutrient Ph to 7.5 to 7.6, this absorbs the acid in the grow medium "Raising" medium Ph as we feed.

We can feed as normal during the Ph raising event ok................. not a prob, when using bi-carb white'ty,........... the nutrient only strength at the moment, i need it to be Ec "0.5" ok...... + water Ec0.3 = total nute Ec 0.5 + 0.3 = 0.8 total Ec....Fed@22-23c........ Ph'ed to 7.5 to 7.6 to raise soil Ph. let me know when you have bi-carb white'ty............. if you have read teetee's thread, you will know what i am on about.

On the 6th day she will take EC 0.6 nute feed and ph 7(?) (ph i will know exactly tomorrow how much it will be with nute EC 0.3)....

if your base water, in 25ltr bucket, after 24hrs aeration and warming with aquarium heater to 22-23c, Ph is 8.5............... after nutes added it drops to 7.4 ??............... we are only adding nutes to Ec0.5 at the moment, so the "Residual Ph" should be high, after nutes are added to our pre prepared bottled, "Base Water"........... your base water Ec is 0.3 yes........... let me know what Ph it is after nutes added.............. if it's 7.5 excellent, as we dont need to add bi-carb to raise Ph............... to begin to recover medium Ph back to 6.5

dont seem to have any major issues now...Just the PH and it will be sorted out in a week

it took 8 to 11 days to recover teetee's cocco Ph from 4.1 to 6.3...................... one is still low at 5.6 i think.............. not all ball bowled, hit a strike first time !!............ nature & science combined is a variable process.......

you are sounding more confident now re your culture outcomes................ your right, they will be monsters.......... not including the "little one".................. the three normal pheno's will quickly thieve the little ones light................... we may have to elevate the pot on a box,..... as tee has his little dame, to ensure she dont get swamped out by the monster next door...........

each will be 80-95cm wide, 90 to 120cm tall............. due to the height issues with growing in a cab thats 2.0m tall...................... we will have to 'Top" out the plants after.......... the fourth internode white'ty, around day 21-25........ this will lower the finished height of the plant, and cause energy to be evenly spread through the bows.................... giving fuller satellite bud on side bows............... and a twin colas bud............

your cab is 2m tall right ??? L1.2m x W1.2m x "H"2.0m...........=2.88m3 of grow space in the cab.............. capacity to change air is................ 580m3/hr !!!!!!!!! we should be able to keep down peak summer temps in the cab when air temp is 28-32................... ALR or "M" !

so to round up i need;

residual feed Ph
cab size = height
0.5Ec nute only feed
bi-carb powder
standing 25ltr base water Ph after aeration and warming (No Nute Ec)

Note;
when you update you only need to post the spec list i showed you, once, not for every plant, as all are fed the same nute and water etc............... all are on same temp and environment............... as list i drew up............ post that, then any comments re events since last up dates etc..........

the only thing you would post for each plant, plant specific is a run off test for that plant........... ALR

addendum;

white'ty said.......quote =

"I will make a 0.5 per litre of nutrient mix of Grow Micro Bloom and my 2 root stims Voodoo and Piranha @ 1.5ml per litre each....I think this will give me a ph of 7 and an EC of 0.3 + bottle water EC 0.3 = EC 0.6 total."

as mentioned making small amounts of nutrient at the start of a grow is allway's tricky, as you need to make it and feed it fresh right away @23c................

in your 25ltr bucket make 10ltrs minimum......as you are feeding 8ltrs every two day's.........

the black color that came out with the run off flush the other day, is just the peat color and or any humic acid in the medium................. nothing to worry about..........

when you have to worry is when you feed to run off.....................

"And Get A Whiff Of ROTTEN EGGS".............. This is Hydrogen sulfide, caused by anaerobic bacteria in a pot bottom, which has been kept continuously sopping wet for weeks......... drying out 'Once Every 8 days" (No Water For 2 to 3 days) lets into the medium, Oxygen, that eradicates the anaerobic H2o2, hydrogen sulfide........ turning anaerobic zones back into "Aerobic Zones".............. H202, is toxic to roots @0.05mg/ltr.........................that is as toxic as N02 nitrite !!.............. ALR
 
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on the glass probe anodes, the salts of the nutrient adhere to the glass, this throws the reading, after consecutive "Dippings" the salts build up on the anodes.......... this is why you "Flick" the probe after dipping for a reading, this flicks of residual water, slowing the build up of nutrient salts on the glass anode....... you only nee to check calibration every couple of weeks................... as salts take time to condensate onto the glass anode................ glad you got re cal fluids................ is important part of culture, "salt Control" !!!

I have a lot of things on the list for order...This time i learn that there is a cleaning kit from bluelab for my pens. I will buy it later on...for the momment they are clean...Or maybe there is some other way to clean the glass? I didnt check online yet..It sure seems expensive kit for a brush and some liquid to clean a glass from salts....



Qs; Did You Get 3no pot of "Bi-Carb Of Soda" ?............... from supermarket cake baking section ??................ to add to our nutrient mix, "After" making up nutrients..................... we add bi-carb to raise nutrient Ph to 7.5 to 7.6, this absorbs the acid in the grow medium "Raising" medium Ph as we feed.

I did found the Bi Carb Soda..Its in powder form...I did a little testing and its working like a charm.....I hope it does to the buds the same effect as it does to cakes :) I have a digital scale to take notes as to how much i should add in the 10ltr feeding mix for using the same quantity everytime....

We can feed as normal during the Ph raising event ok................. not a prob, when using bi-carb white'ty,........... the nutrient only strength at the moment, i need it to be Ec "0.5" ok...... + water Ec0.3 = total nute Ec 0.5 + 0.3 = 0.8 total Ec....Fed@22-23c........ Ph'ed to 7.5 to 7.6 to raise soil Ph. let me know when you have bi-carb white'ty............. if you have read teetee's thread, you will know what i am on about.

Yes i have been reading Tt's thread and waiting for an update :) Its a wonderfull grow so far!

If 0.5ml of nutes give me EC 0.3 EC and 1ml gives EC 0.6 then i need around 0.8ml x 10 litres res = 8ml each g/m/b nutes...I will go with this formula i hope it works out and give me the nute EC 0.5....

ALR i finally got the infrared pistol!! Just tell me how to use the damn thing :p
-How far it should be from the soil?
-Should i aim for the soil that is under the leaves, in shade? Or the soil that is under direct light?
-I should point it near the stem? Or near the side of the pot or inbetween of pot and stem?

*From some readings i take at around 10cm distance they are all in the 24C range....



if your base water, in 25ltr bucket, after 24hrs aeration and warming with aquarium heater to 22-23c, Ph is 8.5............... after nutes added it drops to 7.4 ??............... we are only adding nutes to Ec0.5 at the moment, so the "Residual Ph" should be high, after nutes are added to our pre prepared bottled, "Base Water"........... your base water Ec is 0.3 yes........... let me know what Ph it is after nutes added.............. if it's 7.5 excellent, as we dont need to add bi-carb to raise Ph............... to begin to recover medium Ph back to 6.5

This morning i feed the sick Ultimate 2 litres of 0.5ml feed. The ph was 6.8 after adding the nutes and EC 0.3 + 0.3 water salts = EC 0.6...I then added little bit more bottle water and bring the ph up to 7 because i didnt had the bicarb....
Now i lost the feeding schedule of feeding all 4 of them at the same time....So i will feed in the morning normal 2 litre feeding except that the Ultimate 2 will take 1 litre

I wish it was 7.4....Unfortunately after adding the 0.5ml formula the ph drops to 6.8....WIth the 0.8ml formula maybe it will go down more to 6.5? I will find out in the next feed BUT my base nudes are PH Perfect line so i think it will be stable 6.8 on whatever the formula is....Lets see the magic of bi carb!! I love this science thing you put me on ALR......Im thinking to get a white doctors coat to fit the situation :p



it took 8 to 11 days to recover teetee's cocco Ph from 4.1 to 6.3...................... one is still low at 5.6 i think.............. not all ball bowled, hit a strike first time !!............ nature & science combined is a variable process.......

BOSS ;)

you are sounding more confident now re your culture outcomes................ your right, they will be monsters.......... not including the "little one".................. the three normal pheno's will quickly thieve the little ones light................... we may have to elevate the pot on a box,..... as tee has his little dame, to ensure she dont get swamped out by the monster next door...........

each will be 80-95cm wide, 90 to 120cm tall............. due to the height issues with growing in a cab thats 2.0m tall...................... we will have to 'Top" out the plants after.......... the fourth internode white'ty, around day 21-25........ this will lower the finished height of the plant, and cause energy to be evenly spread through the bows.................... giving fuller satellite bud on side bows............... and a twin colas bud............

your cab is 2m tall right ??? L1.2m x W1.2m x "H"2.0m...........=2.88m3 of grow space in the cab.............. capacity to change air is................ 580m3/hr !!!!!!!!! we should be able to keep down peak summer temps in the cab when air temp is 28-32................... ALR or "M" !

ALR my tent is 1,5m x 1,5m x 200cm - 37cm the reflector - 30cm the pot height = 133cm space left....With topping we will be on the safe yes! Never done it before tho...I cant wait to perform my first top...I will need new pair of plant scissors right?

I am more confident this time because i look that day by day they are building up...They look like the plants i have been looking in succesfull journals...I am very happy right now because of them!! I have to add here that without your level of patience and shareable knowledge with me i would propably not be in this level right now...Cheers ALR!



so to round up i need;

residual feed Ph
cab size = height
0.5Ec nute only feed
bi-carb powder
standing 25ltr base water Ph after aeration and warming (No Nute Ec)

I think i have given info for everything except the last quote...

-On the last quote '''standing 25ltr base water Ph after aeration and warming (No Nute Ec)'''.........i didnt get the aquarium heater yet.....What i do is i have a cheap air pump in the 15ltr bottle of water and take water from there.
When i prepare my feed i have an electric kettle and i warm up 400-500ml. I am careful not to get over 8Litres with the added warm water and i bring the water temp to 23-24C. After i add the nutes etc....The ph in this situation is around 8.3 if im not mistaken...I think yes....

I hope is ok to use kettle water??? Its very hot when i add to the rest of the water and it only takes small amounts to bring to a nice 23-24C all the water....

On the sidenote, i just bought 2 garbage bucket today fully black plastic and strong material and with their covers 50litres each....I will soon order the 1500L/h pumps and use them as you told me to have water from inside the tent temps and to be able to do the 10ltr mixes easy...



Note;
when you update you only need to post the spec list i showed you, once, not for every plant, as all are fed the same nute and water etc............... all are on same temp and environment............... as list i drew up............ post that, then any comments re events since last up dates etc..........

the only thing you would post for each plant, plant specific is a run off test for that plant........... ALR

This morning i feed the sick Ultimate 2 litres of 0.5ml feed. The ph was 6.8 after adding the nutes and EC 0.3 + 0.3 water salts = EC 0.6...I then added little bit more bottle water and bring the ph up to 7 because i didnt had the bicarb....
Now i lost the feeding schedule of feeding all 4 of them at the same time....So i will feed them tomorrow morning and i will give only 1ltr to the Ultimate2....So treatment really starts tomorrow morning then....


when you have to worry is when you feed to run off.....................

"And Get A Whiff Of ROTTEN EGGS".............. This is Hydrogen sulfide, caused by anaerobic bacteria in a pot bottom, which has been kept continuously sopping wet for weeks......... drying out 'Once Every 8 days" (No Water For 2 to 3 days) lets into the medium, Oxygen, that eradicates the anaerobic H2o2, hydrogen sulfide........ turning anaerobic zones back into "Aerobic Zones".............. H202, is toxic to roots @0.05mg/ltr.........................that is as toxic as N02 nitrite !!.............. ALR

This really sounds like a bad visit in the toilet after mcdonalds xD



Allright then ALR it looks like we will bring up the ph afterall...

PH feeds of 7.5 - 7.6 using the Bi Carb and nute EC of 0.5....

Tomorrow morning i start the treatment...


Onto the update now.... @Teetee


600w mh distance from plants = 75 cm
Light schedule: 18/6
Room temp light ON: 26-29C
Room temp light OFF: 24-29C
RH: 45-55%
Soil temp @ 24C (new info using the infrared thermometer gun)
2litres feed each plant with EC of 0.6 + 0.3 bottle water = EC 0.9 @ 25C
Feeding is every 2 days for the first 2 feeds and the 3rd feed is after 3 days to let the soil dry up once a week


Ultimate1&2
18 days from germination
Ultimate 1 = 16cm
Ultimate 2 = 13cm
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Critical +2.0
16 days from germination
14cm
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Amnesiaxxl
15 days from germination
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I have been getting some yellow bars on Ultimate-2 so i had to take some ph samples....3 days ago i gave them plenty of plain water EC 0.3 and ph 6 for the last @ 23C so i had the ph samples...The samples showed low ph of 6 and in the Ultimate-2 which i added dolomite lime i got a high reading of EC....A prescription from ALR has been given and it consists of raising the PH to 7.5-7.6, on my routine feeds, using BiCarbonated Soda from the supermarket :p

More run off tests will be performed after some days. Hopefully we can bring the ph levels to a good 6.5 and boost the nute uptake from the roots before we get into flower mode...

I didnt give them any more water since Monday night....Only Ultimate 2 has taken this morning a 2 ltr feed with nute EC 0.3 + bottle water EC 0.3 = EC 0.6 and Ph of 7. This was a bad decision to make since i should feed them all together....

So my next feed is tomorrow morning and i will give 2 litres for each plant except Ultimate-2..she will take 1 litre....
Feed will be with nute EC 0.5 + bottle water EC 0.3 = EC 0.8. I will be giving base nutes Grow,Micro,Bloom, B52, Voodoo and Piranha...I will use Bi Carb soda to raise ph to 7.6 and water temp will be @ 25C.

Overall im a happy grower. I have 3 beautiful strains going very good and my enviroment seems to work wonders at the momment. Some topping will go in around week 3 and from there i will try to maintain an even canopy...

Love & Light to all!

P.S: Can somebody tell me how to contact Moderstors to move this thread in Dutch Passions ballroom as its moving on smoothly into a good grow journal?? @Waira can you help me buddy?

Edit: i feed them this morning. I prepared the mix with nutrients and it was PH 6.8 and EC 0.9 ( 0.3 warer + 0.6 nute). Then i added 8grams of bicarb in the 7ltr solution and this raised PH to 7.5 but also raised EC to 2.1! Solution temp at 25C

Is it ok that the soda raised EC so much?
 
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Or maybe there is some other way to clean the glass?

reading glasses cleaner, alcohol,............. any cleaner that evaporates,........... get an ear bud and poke through the side cleaning holes when anode is wet with cleaning fluids.........................."Then Re-calibrate" record recal date for next recal reference.........ph & ec pens on same note pad............ keep spare button battery near by......

I have a digital scale to take notes as to how much i should add in the 10ltr feeding mix

so if you need to put in say (Exaggerated Example), say 10ml.................. you can dump 7ml straight in, knowing the last few ml's will be the ones that bring it to the final target Ph................. in our case as all 4pots are showing Ph5.9.................... we are hitting back with a "Neutral" Ph of 7.5-7.6............. pouring in alkaline water, to "Mop Up" the "Acidic" hydrogen ions / anions............... read up on bases and alkalies......

If 0.5ml of nutes give me EC 0.3 EC and 1ml gives EC 0.6

i take it you are using a 5ml graduated pippette white yea ?????.................. pippetting 1ml 3 times G/M/Bloom nutes into 10ltrs and mixing thoroughly, never easy........... in adition Ph'ing become a volumetric sensitive business !.................... even amounts G/M/B................. to hit 0.5Ec as mentioned piranha and B52 = no Ec salts in them,......................

finally got the infrared pistol!!

it will say in the instructions, but i have my one 50mm from pot top soil, under the plant out of light............. then hit the pot side to see the difference.................... ie, pot side 24c................ pot top soil 20c............ so heat ring after lights on etc........................ reverse is soil 24c pot side 20c...................

when water is spinning over, 50mm to 100mm above water, pull trigger....................= accurate temperature "Plus Or Minus" "1 to 1.5c"............................. infra red reads 20c............ so top "range" is 21.5c bottom is 18.5c

point at leaves facing the light...........................= canopy temp..................... this is controlled by "Soil Temp"............. but is nice to know what the leaf interface temp is.................... 26 to 29c is our culture temp range,..................... soil is 24c.......................nice...............

i take at around 10cm distance they are all in the 24C range....

soil at 24c........................ music to my ears......................... and the plants by the look of them !!............ drinking in the near perfect tropical conditions with VPd near perfect to match................. they like the coffee you are feeding them !1...............

i feed the sick Ultimate 2 litres of 0.5ml feed. The ph was 6.8 after adding the nutes and EC 0.3 + 0.3 water salts = EC 0.6...I then added little bit more bottle water and bring the ph up to 7 because i didnt had the bicarb....

more quality "Professional" canna culture music...................................

Lets see the magic of bi carb!!

just read teetee's blog, it did the work there already...................... the reason is, sodium bicarbonate is "Amphoteric", reacting with acids & bases. It reacts violently with acids, releasing CO2 gas as a reaction product. It is commonly used to neutralize unwanted acid solutions or acid spills in chemical laboratories, and to lower the Ph of acidic soils in commercial horticulture, and is a cheap product to horticulture uses.

Thats what my senior lecturer used to say to us, 'Dont be So Amphoteric" !........... or fast reacting !!.................... he is a man with a "150" plus mensa score.......... proper, now reside on the south island 'Kiwi".......... he just had an 8.2 on the Richter, last october................. shook his place to the floor............ i aint keen on earthquakes !!

tent is 1,5m x 1,5m x 200cm - 37cm the reflector - 30cm the pot height = 133cm space left....With topping we will be on the safe yes!

between pot top of soil, and light at it's highest point from the soil, we got 1.3m..................... so it is a 2m tall cab and not an 1.8m like i feared................. thats good................... 1.3 with topping out will be fine.............

you didant allow for the distance between "The Plant" and the "Light", = heat so 60cm will need to be left to prevent burn of leaves from the duel spectrum 600w HPS bulb right white'ty........... so we have 1.3m minus 60cm = 90cm grow room for plant ok.....................

not a problem ok........................ if they get rampant post topping, we will "Supercrop" them just after watering when stems are full of water softening them for and before the bending over at 90 degree's......... = supercropping................. i do it all the time at 1.3mtr plants height !! leggy sativas on dad gear............... they would go 1.5m after topping !!!!!!!!!!! DesFran = 2m tall !!!................... but that is an unusually strong loonatic dame !!!............ 100% pure sativa long leg dame...................

.I am very happy right now because of them!!

you kipping ok now bro yea ????????............. that means the rest of the family are also chilled right now = cool................. your boy is 7, he's got eyes and a nose right..................... try not to use the word canna around him !!.......................... you dont want a teacher turning up too see the indoor 'Chilli" grow right !!............... that smells like a fruit stall !!.................. like it has been said, and is known, that 7 outa 10 busts, are due to family leaks !!.................... it's usually the family that drop em selves in it....................... my kids knew nothing untill around 17, one year before they left school thank fuk !!..................... then only relized when they where at a party, and smelt the canna,............ they knew what that smell on a wkend at home was !!!!!! "Cannabis" x

What i do is i have a cheap air pump in the 15ltr bottle of water and take water from there.

as long as it's aerated, and @22-23c....................... and has a low starting Ec0.3 or below............... you can make it in the sink if necessary !!!!!................ when they get going and scoffing 12ltrs to 18ltrs every 2 days............ you may need the 25ltr buckets............... 2 standing 1 for making up in and mixing up in using the water pump mentioned.........

When i prepare my feed i have an electric kettle and i warm up 400-500ml. I am careful not to get over 8Litres with the added warm water and i bring the water temp to 23-24C. After i add the nutes etc....The ph in this situation is around 8.3 if im not mistaken...I think yes....

i use electric kettle, 1ltr just boiled tap water, in 24ltrs in my fermentation bucket (Reservoir).............. to warm it in winter, quite often,..................... if my lights out temp drops, the water in the res bucket in my grow space drops also....................... so i use a boiling kettle to raise the feed water temp no probs........ standing water aerated and warmed will give a Ph above 8................ and is tops, as proves the "Oxygen" has gone in............ plants adore oxygen in the feed water !!!!!!!! help them live a bit !!!............

On the sidenote, i just bought 2 garbage bucket today fully black plastic and strong material and with their covers 50litres each....I will soon order the 1500L/h pumps and use them as you told me to have water from inside the tent temps and to be able to do the 10ltr mixes easy...

you can lift 25kg's.............. ie, a 25ltr bucket, difficult to lift in and out of cab a 50ltrs wheelie bin !!............. the other issue is, you will have to 'Open" the cab door a lot................... letting the pungent aroma of fresh uremic acid out into the house....................

to prevent this you could, put the 50ltr tall bin in the space, with a pump in it to turn water over in it, on a timmer 4x 15mins = every 6hrs = 4no in 24hrs.......... this will gas it and warm it over the 24hrs in the cab.........

when you get the tall 50ltr bin...................... fit a half inch pipe gland with rubber seal to the bottom of the 50ltr water bin........ fit one of these white'ty..................... on a flat area of the bin near the bottom, say 100mm above bottom of the bin.........................
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run out of the cab, via a side draw string side sock, a half inch non clear, 4mtr long flexible plastic pipe from this tap in cab at bin bottom, out into the room, and fit on the end a plastic tap....... use zip ties to seal pipes to taps properly........... you can use garden hose pipe for this.............. as taps fit it etc.......

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this tap, the other end of the pipe coming from the bin in cab, you can then open the tap above, and run the warmed water from the 50ltr bin in tent, into your 15 to 20ltr nutrient mixing bucket, with the 2nd pump in it to spin over = mix vigorously you nute and water mix to ensure good mixing of the feed, while you are making it up......................... outside the cab.................

this means you will only "OPEN" the cab door "ONCE"................. to feed the plants................ limiting the "CANNABIS AROMA FROM ESCAPE"........................ from stinking out the neighborhood !! and your boy smelling it right............. let alone the coke head next door............... who i am sure can do with the extra money right !!

PH feeds of 7.5 - 7.6 using the Bi Carb and nute EC of 0.5....

more culture music to me ears white;ty........

Tomorrow morning i start the treatment...

measure run off after "4no feeds"...................... so after 8 day's of feeding Ph7.5....................your run off should show 6.1 to 6.2..................after 4no 'Alkaline" feeds, re buffering the soil.............

Soil temp @ 24C (new info using the infrared thermometer gun)
2litres feed each plant with EC of 0.6 + 0.3 bottle water = EC 0.9 @ 25C
Feeding is every 2 days for the first 2 feeds and the 3rd feed is after 3 days to let the soil dry up once a week

a veritable canna concerto of good news to me ears..... watch these dames respond.......

More run off tests will be performed after some days. Hopefully we can bring the ph levels to a good 6.5 and boost the nute uptake from the roots before we get into flower mode...

some days being a run off test after 4no feeds over 8 days........................ see what affect the Ph lift is having ok.......

Overall im a happy grower. I have 3 beautiful strains going very good and my enviroment seems to work wonders at the momment. Some topping will go in around week 3 and from there i will try to maintain an even canopy...

we will supercrop into light voids, post topping white;ty.................... early day yet.................. but the 3 standard plants will fill the tent with a "Sea Of Green"............... = sgrog !!!............= heavy yeild !!!!

you need to hit 2g a day over 100 days so 200g dry needed................ you should have 300g spare !!!

Nice work so far white;ty..............Qs;............... tell me, with soil at 23-24c....................... light out hittin 29c (Oil Rad Not Switching Of At 26c)................... however, what is leaf temp lights on.................... while soil is at 24c ??.............. stand 2-3-4 or 5ltrs of water in the cab on the floor........................see what temp it is at after24hrs ok.................... good work man....................they are looking purty & pretty man......80 day to go............ALR
 
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I read your comments above ALR and its nice that finally i start understanding couple of things...

Ive been driving all my day to get to the army psychiatric doctors just to confirm that im 'crazy' and not able to do my army duties 3 times a year until i become 65! Yes here men have to go to army upon high school graduation, at the age of 18 and after we serve our country for a good 14 months (it used to be 24 months at my time ....for gods sake!!) they call you 3 - 4 days per year to keep you an 'active' bullet....BIG LOL here.......I decided to follow the road of many others and take in a paper from a shrink to get them of my back!!! So i spent all my day driving here and there....

I also pass from the company that sold me the 2 stage filter to get the adaptor i needed....Once i got home i connected the 2 stage filter...I let it run for 15 minutes to clear any carbons in the pipes and system and then i give it an EC reading....ALR, nothing changed!! My EC is still on 0.9!!!
Fucking scums!! Im disappointed now as i have to visit the shop for bottles all the time and they cost $$.......Im so pissed right now....Not even 0.1 EC it didnt drop!!!!!!

I will make another effort to take out filters and check them...maybe i forgot to remove a safety or something but i dont think so....i double checked them before installing....This is just a very bad....

I guess i will have to order from amazon a new one...I just lost 100 pounds for nothing...I dont know maybe wife can use the water for cooking, drinking? Its very high EC 0.9!! I doubt if this 2 stage filter has removed anything.....

I have to solve this major problem...
This and the carbon filter system....


Edit: when i feed them last morning i prepared the mix with nutrients and it was PH 6.8 and EC 0.9 ( 0.3 warer + 0.6 nute). Then i added 8grams of bicarb in the 7ltr solution and this raised PH to 7.5 but also raised EC to 2.1! Solution temp was at 25C

Is it ok that the soda raised EC so much?
@AutoLowRyder ?
 
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ALR, nothing changed!! My EC is still on 0.9!!!

they are only mechanical filter white'ty............ there is no RO membrane filter..................... after your cloth type filter cartridge.............. you will have a carbon filter cartridge............. this should remove a small amount of the salts........................ your tap water Ec is 0.9............ thats 450ppm on the "Hanna Ec" scale............... it could be sodium salt Na+ giving the high tap water Ec, or calcium carbonate giving the high Ec, added to these two tap water salts, at the local water treatment is chlorine salts......... chlorine added to sterilize the tap water.......... residues in tap water elevate Ec........ and neutralize your gut bacteria !1

i double checked them before installing....This is just a very bad

only RO can remove all salts from tap water................... the rest is just mechanical filtration and marketing.....

I just lost 100 pounds for nothing

Pounds ? Pounds sterling ! and national service, 800,000 citizens, "Belize" !! sounds like a pain though......

I dont know maybe wife can use the water for cooking, drinking? Its very high EC 0.9!! I doubt if this 2 stage filter has removed anything.....

450ppm is medium to hard water......... 550ppm or above is "hard water'........ very salty...... will give you kidney stones and kidney colic in 2-3yr of drinking tap water.defo.....

Qs; white'ty.............. "Are You Still On The 400w HPS" ?????

if your are, you will need to get a 600w "Duel Spectrum" HPS hortilux bulb man.......... as a 400MH wont do the 4 flowers in flower at all white'ty ok................. we can rework the airflow and temp management accordingly ok...................

i take it your electronic ballast is 600w capable white'ty, with possibly a 600w boost option on the w selector dial ????? we only need 600w though ok......

i prepared the mix with nutrients and it was PH 6.8 and EC 0.9 ( 0.3 water + 0.6 nute). Then i added 8grams of bicarb in the 7ltr solution and this raised PH to 7.5 but also raised EC to 2.1! Solution temp was at 25C

Is it ok that the soda raised EC so much?

you make your normal nutrient complex up, as half the AN schedule, you are following, then add the bi-carb to lift Ph to 7.5..................... in 500ml half liter of bottled water add a 1.5 table spoon of bi=carb, mix it.......... do not get on skin as it can burn.................. high alkalinity,..................... you can use a 5ml pippette, to pippette this molar solution into the feed water after adding nutes to (Ec0.5 Nute Only), use this bi-carb to lift Ph to 7.5......... this will be second Ph elevated feed ??.............. after 4 shots we need to do a Ph run off test........ on one of the pots with no lime ok..............

did you get what i meant re the 50ltr res in the cab and the supply pipe from it to the outside of cab, you can use as a water tap to male your feed up by the cab etc white'ty................... re the tank outlet and plastic tap at the service end of the pipe etc..............

they look the perfection shade of early veg green the leaves................... pretty picture of vigor "day 18"...........
white'ty soon you will be flipping to the bloom nute set on the AN calculator.......... hit these drop down boxes on the AN nute cal page..... when we get to the bloom switch................ day


  • Nutrient Base:Grow Micro Bloom (Bloom)
  • Grower Level: Expert Grower Level
  • Reservoir Size: = 5ltrs................ as you are making up 10ltrs and we are on the "half" strength nute level ok.....
in bloom you will add these items also/.....................they should be in the "Complete" set of AN you bought, the auto's U1 +U2 + A1 + C1,............. they will need to be switched to flower nute schedule around day 28 to 35.......... depending on flower size................... i will tell you when to switch to the AN bloom schedule above ok................ these are the extra items in flower as schedule white'ty ok

voodo juice
big bud
B52
Overdrive
piranna
bud candy

Re army mental health check................ not a bad idea for the nutters here too !!.......once evrey 3 months would be good............ brexit is driving everyone round the twist at the mo.......................... the Dutch are batting foe us now, that means they can veto the article 50 extension !!........... And we can get out with the no deal the whole of the Uk wants............. the may deal aint leaving EU for sure................. ALR
 
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they are only mechanical filter white'ty............ there is no RO membrane filter..................... after your cloth type filter cartridge.............. you will have a carbon filter cartridge............. this should remove a small amount of the salts........................ your tap water Ec is 0.9............ thats 450ppm on the "Hanna Ec" scale............... it could be sodium salt Na+ giving the high tap water Ec, or calcium carbonate giving the high Ec, added to these two tap water salts, at the local water treatment is chlorine salts......... chlorine added to sterilize the tap water.......... residues in tap water elevate Ec........ and neutralize your gut bacteria !1
only RO can remove all salts from tap water................... the rest is just mechanical filtration and marketing.....

I just couldnt hold back my anger and to calm my self down before i start throwing this bullshit filter on the wall i just placed an order from the UK...
This time i got an RO filter system from UK with the same money i paid for this FCKNG THING from the SCUMS in my country!
I will try to sell it online hopefully some one will pay 90-100 euros for it.....It costed me 140 euros woop woop!!

This is the new system i ordered: https://www.finerfilters.co.uk/finerfilters-undersink-fivestage-ro-domestic.html


Pounds ? Pounds sterling ! and national service, 800,000 citizens, "Belize" !! sounds like a pain though......

Born and raised by the strong allmighty POUND until we joined the EU and changed it...Used to be so strong pound that back in '07 when we made the switch, 1 of our pound was 1.71 euro!! No pound in the world could beat that :p (sorry uk pound) And yes pound was another one of the goodies the british left to us...Another good was the right hand car driving....


Qs; white'ty.............. "Are You Still On The 400w HPS" ?????

if your are, you will need to get a 600w "Duel Spectrum" HPS hortilux bulb man.......... as a 400MH wont do the 4 flowers in flower at all white'ty ok................. we can rework the airflow and temp management accordingly ok...................

i take it your electronic ballast is 600w capable white'ty, with possibly a 600w boost option on the w selector dial ????? we only need 600w though ok......

I am using the full effect of my ballast @ 660w all the way until now in this grow...400w was at my failed first grow attemp...

ALR, i have 3 bulbs here right now...
-600w MH which is on the reflector now,
-600w HPS ( http://www.sonlight.biz/hps-ts_600.html )
-600w Dual Spectrum



you make your normal nutrient complex up, as half the AN schedule, you are following, then add the bi-carb to lift Ph to 7.5..................... in 500ml half liter of bottled water add a 1.5 table spoon of bi=carb, mix it.......... do not get on skin as it can burn.................. high alkalinity,..................... you can use a 5ml pippette, to pippette this molar solution into the feed water after adding nutes to (Ec0.5 Nute Only), use this bi-carb to lift Ph to 7.5......... this will be second Ph elevated feed ??.............. after 4 shots we need to do a Ph run off test........ on one of the pots with no lime ok..............

Ok i get it...0.5 ltr bottle water with 1.5 tablespoon bicarb added and use this solution like a ph up in my main feed mix........And this will not raise my EC?..........I will check it tomorrow morning when its their 2nd feed with bicarb my friend! Thanks for another nasty hack!!

did you get what i meant re the 50ltr res in the cab and the supply pipe from it to the outside of cab, you can use as a water tap to male your feed up by the cab etc white'ty................... re the tank outlet and plastic tap at the service end of the pipe etc..............

Yes but i am waiting for the aquarium heater to arrive first. If i can use the heater for 3-4 hours pre feed mix and get the temp to 25C then i will go with this method. If the heater needs a lot of time to heat my 20 litre res i will start the project you told me with the hose going out of the cab and an open/close part to use the heated water from inside the cab.....

I just had the thought that water from inside the cab will not be correct for the root zone because i water plants in the morning when my light switch on from a 6hour darkness...So i water will not get the heat from the light etc.......

ALR does it really makes difference if i water them when light goes ON??

they look the perfection shade of early veg green the leaves................... pretty picture of vigor "day 18"...........
white'ty soon you will be flipping to the bloom nute set on the AN calculator.......... hit these drop down boxes on the AN nute cal page..... when we get to the bloom switch................ day


  • Nutrient Base:Grow Micro Bloom (Bloom)
  • Grower Level: Expert Grower Level
  • Reservoir Size: = 5ltrs................ as you are making up 10ltrs and we are on the "half" strength nute level ok.....
in bloom you will add these items also/.....................they should be in the "Complete" set of AN you bought, the auto's U1 +U2 + A1 + C1,............. they will need to be switched to flower nute schedule around day 28 to 35.......... depending on flower size................... i will tell you when to switch to the AN bloom schedule above ok................ these are the extra items in flower as schedule white'ty ok

voodo juice
big bud
B52
Overdrive
piranna
bud candy

I look inside the tent and then i look the photos 5 days ago i posted and i just cant believe how big they become!! IN 5 DAYS!!! unbelievable!!!

Re army mental health check................ not a bad idea for the nutters here too !!.......once evrey 3 months would be good............ brexit is driving everyone round the twist at the mo.......................... the Dutch are batting foe us now, that means they can veto the article 50 extension !!........... And we can get out with the no deal the whole of the Uk wants............. the may deal aint leaving EU for sure................. ALR

People all around the world just look at a muppet show....The directors are never on the scene....Everything has been decided from before to keep us devided and away from the truth...The truth of our existence.....Are you a believer?? ->

 
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600w MH which is on the reflector now,

glad it was the 600w from the start of these,............... if the "Duel Spectrum" 600 is new........ can we change it now for the Metal Halide white'ty yea................. much better natural spectrum for the whole grow, as it is a balanced spectrum output, as day light.......................= quality light.................... set the height at the leaves to a temperature of around 23c to 25c............. with infra red temp gauge................... we dont want leaves exceeding 25c, dut to 'Proximity" to the 600w bulb radiation output heat........... the heat out put from this bulb we are managing elsewhere also..............

How did the passive input test run go ?/......... positive input fan "OFF"................ no change in temp right !!.....

use this solution like a ph up in my main feed mix........And this will not raise my EC?

Bi-carb is "Alkaline", so will raise Ec, but will not affect the nutrients and root stim, in the res............ so total Ec = 0.3 bottled water + Nute Ec + Bi-carb Ec = total............... the bi-carb is just on top of the normanl feed ratio..... after "4no" alkaline feeds over 8 to 10 days............ from just one non limed pot, take a single run off test..................... best previous was Ph6.0, and as low as 5.8 or 5.9................... the 1st run off test we should hit 6.1 to 6.2.................... a 300 fold increase in "Cations"......... or alkalinity................ have a look at tee's update from yesterday......................... see the size of those "Post Ph Recovery" !!!!.......... 1.2m soil to plant top................. when the soil returns to 6.3 to 6.6, nute uptake at the right roo temp rockets .............. they just had the ALR treatment over the last 4-5wks...................... back to 110% as of yesterday's update tee dose the dark side .......... his PAK1 is a monster "Super Bean"....... another 500g dry monster, we like heavy weights.

use the heater for 3-4 hours pre feed mix and get the temp to 25C

in the 25ltr plastic bucket, you can use the heater white'ty, if it comes into contact with the plastic of the bucket, say it falls to the bottom of the bucket, as the sucker pads designed for glass, give way............. it will melt a hole through that plastic ok....................... better to suspend it over the bucket on a cross bucket stick, and tie it in place........................ no chance of touching the plastic with the 60c glass ok..........

Remember we control the cab temp, and that controls the root temperature, as all lants are on the same level.

We need our root temp at 22 to 24c.................... not greater than 26c root temp ok............ we have a 29c spike at the moment......................... so we need to increase air flow through the cab slightly to reduce the 29c spikes........................ so around lights out 23-24c.............. lights on 24 to 28c.................... "if The Root Temp" is exceeding 25c white'ty ok.................... the ultimates are essentially auto mazzar crossed with an "Indica" dom auto.................. so there is indica in the ultimates 50%................... 50% sativa................ the indica dose not like it above 30c................................it 'Flops" it's leaves lights out.................... hence 28c to 29c max temp end of................. with the extra heat of summer coming,....................... we need to ensure we can turn up air flow speeds.........................to keep temps down..................... and get an exhaust silencer for the out flow side of the system.......
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i have one on intake to stop noise one one output (Exaust) side to dampen the fan hum when flat out at 580m3/hr.................. no echo out of ducting from extractor fan sonics and acoustic noise................. at the balcony white'ty ok.......... cut hole in glass, just before it fit the silencer just before the output 'Grille" in glass etc.......


water from inside the cab will not be correct for the root zone because i water plants in the morning when my light switch on from a 6hour darkness...So i water will not get the heat from the light etc.......

600w duel spectrum HPS will heat cab to 29 at the mo.................. lights out, the slower rad, (Rad Comes On 20mins Before Lights Out = "Pre heat"), is slow to heat the space, but eventually maintains 25c............. with fan on "Low" tick over"...................... the pump in the 50ltr or 25ltr res in the cab............... will ensure heat gets in to the water.................. as it is on a time 15mins on 4 time a day every 6hrs = 15mins pump on.......

ALR does it really makes difference if i water them when light goes ON??

Your new "RO" unit.............. will need me to run through how we buffer the RO for use,..................... this means adding either tap water or bottled water, depending on which has the higher Ec................... DO YOU HAVE A RAINWATER DOWN PIPE AT THE SIDE OF THE BALCONY, YOU COULD TAP INTO TO FILL A 250LTR RAINWATER BUTT ??????

watering is, and will allways be the key to the plant health, and requires "Intuition", "Husbandry'......... the pots can be lifted when wet................ remember the feel........................then 2 days later lifted again............. lighter 50% ? 80%.................. 100% back to light weight ?????????? each plant will drin different.................. especially during the last 4 weeks when drinking begins to shut down..................... some will run "Off" when fed, other wont,..................... and keep on drinking...................... you will have to tune in to them white'ty............ intuitive application.................. at least every 8-10 days..................... you will need to soak the plants to small run off............................. twice in those 10 days............... dry them out to a dry pot lift, light weight and dry....................... this lets o2 in....................fabric clotted with continually wet soil, making a barrier to air gettin in.......................... when the pot is dry, and you flood it from the top, the oxygen in the pot is forced out of the bottom.................. an oxygen flush as the feed come down..............

i just cant believe how big they become!! IN 5 DAYS!!! unbelievable!!!

have a look at tee's................ yours will be the same white'ty.................... 'Nice"............. WHU just come away 4;3 up !!!!!!!!!................... miracle..........

The truth of our existence

most kingdoms, but mainly mammals, consume resources, pollute, and move on to new resources.......... take the cow as an example.............

who would have ever guessed, re the plastic pollution of the oceans, the shear world wide volume............. this Monday, 18th march............ at 8am, sky are broadcasting live super deep sea expedition.................... just of the Seychelles......... the deepest ever attempted................. i bet there are Pepsi bottles down there................. we will see Monday !! at 8am live............

so feedback round up, actions & responses required = white'ty to do list = (Quality)

change to 600w duel spec HPS now.......... set height re leaf temp..........

no problem re bi carb increasing final Ec ok

single run off test after 4 alkaline feeds

check out silencer

support aquarium heater to prevent melting any plastic

DO YOU HAVE A RAINWATER DOWN PIPE AT EDGE OF BALCONY WE CAN TAP INTO ??/

you can water them any time, lights on................never open the cab and let light in during lights out................ can cause a hermi................... can ruin plants..............

you can use a kettle to heat res water before you add nutes and bi-carb................... the mixer pump in that bucket will mix the hot with the cold fast................... so when you point your infra red temp gauge.......... it will show the correct temp...................... to be adjusted....................... quality................. the base water before heating has been "aerated"................quality water preparation is one "KEY" to big outcomes......... ALR

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glad it was the 600w from the start of these,............... if the "Duel Spectrum" 600 is new........ can we change it now for the Metal Halide white'ty yea................. much better natural spectrum for the whole grow, as it is a balanced spectrum output, as day light.......................= quality light.................... set the height at the leaves to a temperature of around 23c to 25c............. with infra red temp gauge................... we dont want leaves exceeding 25c, dut to 'Proximity" to the 600w bulb radiation output heat........... the heat out put from this bulb we are managing elsewhere also......

Dual spectrum ON...check!
23-24C on the leaves...check!


How did the passive input test run go ?/......... positive input fan "OFF"................ no change in temp right !!.....

Passive fails at the momment. The temps in the passive room are still low...Weather is very naughty this year...For the first time in my life i see snow in our highest mountain in mid March. Usually snow melts before the end of February....
I am using the intake fan and temps are
Controllable...

Bi-carb is "Alkaline", so will raise Ec, but will not affect the nutrients and root stim, in the res............ so total Ec = 0.3 bottled water + Nute Ec + Bi-carb Ec = total............... the bi-carb is just on top of the normanl feed ratio..... after "4no" alkaline feeds over 8 to 10 days............ from just one non limed pot, take a single run off test..................... best previous was Ph6.0, and as low as 5.8 or 5.9................... the 1st run off test we should hit 6.1 to 6.2.................... a 300 fold increase in "Cations"......... or alkalinity.......

I thought high EC due to bi carb was not helping...Glad i asked you about this...
I will have runoff tests from all of them i guess just to have a clear image yes?

have a look at tee's update from yesterday......................... see the size of those "Post Ph Recovery" !!!!.......... 1.2m soil to plant top................. when the soil returns to 6.3 to 6.6, nute uptake at the right roo temp rockets .............. they just had the ALR treatment over the last 4-5wks...................... back to 110% as of yesterday's update tee dose the dark side .......... his PAK1 is a monster "Super Bean"....... another 500g dry monster, we like heavy weights.

The prescription on TT's plants was spot on! Considered that the medicine came from the supermarket just says a lot...Respect!...
The structure looks very healthy and those stems soon will be covered...
Another amazing phenomenon is the light source...200w from the wall and raising these monsters!! Respect there too!

We love heavy weights...fact! If you mean that 500g only from the PAK1 her self then thats just unbeatable imo!!


in the 25ltr plastic bucket, you can use the heater white'ty, if it comes into contact with the plastic of the bucket, say it falls to the bottom of the bucket, as the sucker pads designed for glass, give way............. it will melt a hole through that plastic ok....................... better to suspend it over the bucket on a cross bucket stick, and tie it in place........................ no chance of touching the plastic with the 60c glass ok......

Dang i didnt thought about this!...If i will use the heater after all, i can place it on small bricks i have for garden use...I can even screw the heater on those bricks if i have to...Thanks again for saving me from the worst.....



So around lights out 23-24c.............. lights on 24 to 28c.................... "if The Root Temp" is exceeding 25c white'ty ok.................... the ultimates are essentially auto mazzar crossed with an "Indica" dom auto.................. so there is indica in the ultimates 50%................... 50% sativa................ the indica dose not like it above 30c................................it 'Flops" it's leaves lights out.................... hence 28c to 29c max temp end of................. with the extra heat of summer coming,....................... we need to ensure we can turn up air flow speeds.........................to keep temps down..................... and get an exhaust silencer for the out flow side of the system.......
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i have one on intake to stop noise one one output (Exaust) side to dampen the fan hum when flat out at 580m3/hr.................. no echo out of ducting from extractor fan sonics and acoustic noise................. at the balcony white'ty ok.......... cut hole in glass, just before it fit the silencer just before the output 'Grille" in glass etc.......

I am in target zone regarding the temps of root, leaves and in cab ALR...

Now i want to say here that i had the light lower from 95cm to 75cm for couple days...I noticed on the tallest plant, the ultimate1 that the tips of new growth leaves (coming up from the stem) have turned yellow...I dont think its a nute burn because its only on the fresh little leaves and not in other plants too....So i move up my light to safe 95cm again....I will post photo of this tip yellowing later when im there....

A silencer is what i was looking for and i was just didnt know these things even exist!...You just know exactly what im doing here and you helping me big time! Safety first friend!!

Now i have to say that i cut the glass only for the intake fan because i can cover the hole from the outside of the window...
For the excausting that is going on the door of my balcony i couldnt cut the glass because its very high and people can look at the hole there when passing with cars or when walking on the street...So i used the down side of the door where there is aluminium bars...I raised up 1 of these bars in the corner and placed there a 6 inch flange to attach ducting on it...So this means my ducting begins up from the tent and coming down (almost 2meters) to the door....

Thank you



600w duel spectrum HPS will heat cab to 29 at the mo.................. lights out, the slower rad, (Rad Comes On 20mins Before Lights Out = "Pre heat"), is slow to heat the space, but eventually maintains 25c............. with fan on "Low" tick over"...................... the pump in the 50ltr or 25ltr res in the cab............... will ensure heat gets in to the water.................. as it is on a time 15mins on 4 time a day every 6hrs = 15mins pump on.......

Waiting for the pumps to arrive and start working out with the bucket inside the tent and see what readings i will have...I hope bucket is not too big in thete. I havent disinfect it yet so i couldnt try it...Tonight i will do it and see what space it takes in my 1.5x1.5 plus 4 plants.......


DO YOU HAVE A RAINWATER DOWN PIPE AT THE SIDE OF THE BALCONY, YOU COULD TAP INTO TO FILL A 250LTR RAINWATER BUTT ??????

Yes ofcourse i can collect rain water...The rain season is almost done tho :(
The 250ltr bucket will not go bad after some time? For how long i can storage rain water? In what temp is good to store it at? I can fill 20 ltr bottles and have them inside house in a cool spot...

ALR listen...I can get to fresh water rivers running from the top mountain down to the sea...I can go to the mountain and collect this water coming straight from the mountain! Its not far from here.. I remember we used to do this and had water...I can even remember the taste of this water....mmmmm so delicious! Its coming mainly from snow melting/rain going in the underground water res...Filtered from the mountain rocks which is special rock i think it was volcano...It has a lot of minerals...I hope ec is not very up....I cant wait to test this water...

I will take with me my ph ec pens...I feel like im going for a treasure hunting...Family will apreciate the walk there too...

watering is, and will allways be the key to the plant health, and requires "Intuition", "Husbandry'......... the pots can be lifted when wet................ remember the feel........................then 2 days later lifted again............. lighter 50% ? 80%.................. 100% back to light weight ?????????? each plant will drin different.................. especially during the last 4 weeks when drinking begins to shut down..................... some will run "Off" when fed, other wont,..................... and keep on drinking...................... you will have to tune in to them white'ty............ intuitive application.................. at least every 8-10 days..................... you will need to soak the plants to small run off............................. twice in those 10 days............... dry them out to a dry pot lift, light weight and dry....................... this lets o2 in....................fabric clotted with continually wet soil, making a barrier to air gettin in.......................... when the pot is dry, and you flood it from the top, the oxygen in the pot is forced out of the bottom.................. an oxygen flush as the feed come down.......

im on it ALR....



most kingdoms, but mainly mammals, consume resources, pollute, and move on to new resources.......... take the cow as an example.............

The real story...The truth...
We have 3 kingdoms on earth. The kingdom of land, of water and the kingdom of air...This is the only and real Trinity and not the father son and holy spirit bullshit they feeding to our brains...
These 3 kingdoms used to be self-contained and live in harmony before we cut the oxygen from earth by destroing forests and throwing cement layers on top of the soil to build cities and houses and cars etc that we dont need....Water kingdom was with its own living organisms, land with its own living organisms and air kingdom the same...One kingdom was not getting in the kingdom of other...Every kingdom was created with harmony balance respect and love for each other and every living organism was staying in their kingdom...
Now we hunt and eat the fishes and hunt and kill the birds and we have unbalanced the 3 kingdoms...All these are not going unseen from the watchers who are going to step in and bring balance again in our souls...Because what is going on now is not a coinsidense and is not caused by people...There are beings who can take 8 forms at the same time and are 5 dimensional...Those are responsible for creating this greedy to own all 3 kingdoms and destruct our house...But there are also the watchers who are 7 dimensional and they are above...Soon they will take action down here....Never the down V are the same as above Λ.....Λ is always stronger than V and they know it and we know it...We know them and we see them and they giving everything now to take our consiousness to the bad side because they know they running out of time....+ is always positive and - always negative...what we seeing and experiencing now is an effort to make the - look like +....like its physical and natural to be like this...but is not...+ will never be - and vise versa
 
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I can go to the mountain and collect this water coming straight from the mountain! Its not far from here.. I remember we used to do this and had water...I can even remember the taste of this water....mmmmm so delicious!

why pay for bottled water, when you can fill up 6no 20ltr containers from a mountain source............. nice, as long as it dont look suspect,............... crack on,................ post up the local mountain supply "Ec & Ph" @23c, we will see if it's in the range of the bottled water, if it is................... "Go Get The Pure One" !! pumice from ancient lava flows is sulfur based so we will see......... it may be acidic a Ph of 5.5........ between 5.8 & 7.5 we can adjuct it, bliss is 6.0 to 6.8.................... mountain water............ nice, will it flow all year ??.......... and then freeze over ??/

we have unbalanced the 3 kingdoms...All these are not going unseen from the watchers who are going to step in and bring balance again

Thats exactly what i keep telling @Tony@DutchPassion.............
You got to bring order to the 3 Kingdoms, = Automatic's / Feminized / Regulars !!!!!

So he turns up with 3 new strains for 2019 !!!!!
Mokum’s Tulip®
HiFi 4G®
Meringue ®

https://www.dutch-passion.com/en/cannabis-seeds/feminized/

The kingdom of land, of water and the kingdom of air...This is the only and real Trinity

"Soil" = Gold Label !!
"Water" = White's Local Mountain Juice !!
And Green "Air" Genesis nutrients !!

Re the aquarium heater, the glass tube type, you can get a piece of wood or something to lay across the bucket, and just tie the cable to the cross member, lowered down to the right height for the water level........... just lift it out of the bucket when your infra red says 23-24c................ the pump in the bottom turning over the water, so the heat dose not "Stratify" at the top of the bucket, cold water "Sinks" to the bottom..(Thermocline)...... the pump mixes hot and cold very well.....................leave pump on while heating the water for the feed.......... ALR
 
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I noticed on the tallest plant, the ultimate1 that the tips of new growth leaves (coming up from the stem) have turned yellow...I dont think its a nute burn because its only on the fresh little leaves and not in other plants too....So i move up my light to safe 95cm again....I will post photo of this tip yellowing later when im there....

if it's only one plant, the tallest, she may have been to close to 600wHPS duel spectrum (Nice Bulb!),.......... keep an eye on the other leaf tips white'ty..................... they are all on the same regime, water temps feed all environs.................. one is bound to show out a difference at some point ok................ there is genetic varience at play,................... like the miniture Amnesia for instance....................... have you "Lifted" her up to the same height as the main canopy white'ty yea ???........................

if you see any issue................... take pics and post em up as soon as you see something, dont wait till the next update,................... that will come on the usual day every 8 day cycle etc...........

So i used the down side of the door where there is aluminium bars...I raised up 1 of these bars in the corner and placed there a 6 inch flange to attach ducting on it...So this means my ducting begins up from the tent and coming down (almost 2meters) to the door....

it is good the hot air from the cab is going out of the house................ when the temp outside is 10 below, the hot air @24-26-29c................ will form steam !!................ like a pumped hot breath, 24/7............. will that be a prob white'ty at all ????

During the peak of summer, during the night, when temps drop down, i pump in the colder night air, to cool the room....................... my hot air is pumped out into my loft space, where it dissipates away......... and take the chill of the loft, and melts the ice on the roof, or prevents it forming.......... !! i pull the cold outside summer night air, down through my fire place in the room next door, it then enters my grow room through the entrance door, via a 100mm flange either side..................... it is latent drawn down passively into the grow space from the chimney at the top ............... is why i asked if you had a chimney in the room the cab is in white'ty........... you have already said you do not etc.............

your air into the cab is from inside the house................ so when winter heating is on................... hot air will be pulled into the hot cab........................... what tee dose in this identicle situation, is he put an "AirCon" unit in the room the cab is in set up at 20-21c................ so the air being sucked into the cab is "Controllable"............... this is a great help to manage the cab temp through the hot summers 'Nights".. and colder winter days.................... In room AirCon solves all the issues of thermal seasonal transition........... !!!!!!!! ................i just have a chimney supply of cooler air in summer to off set the summer background heat

A silencer is what i was looking for and i was just didnt know these things even exist!.

this is a superb piece of kit..................... the bigger the better the quieter it will be.......... post up the yellow leaf tip soon as you can......................... wanna av a look see white my man........... ALR

White'ty............. did you get what i mean, tre the AN nute calculator, in the experience level drop down box click on expert level yea......................... that level includes the remaining nute pack items in your full width AN nute set you bought................ A to Z of AN nute sets !! ALR
 
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