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All looking good, BTW my jars vary between taking 2 to 4 ounces, and I put maybe 6 Bovedas in the jars while they cure and for long term storage.

White'ty, this man uses 8 "500ml Kilner jars" per plant !, at 2oz a jar. We are allowing 4 jars per plant with 1.5oz in each jar for you white;ty my man................... lightly packing the jars means you dont "Knock off" the trichomes, before you can smoke em !!........ the less handling or crushing the better......... the more trichs you can keep on the plant the better............

re hermaphroditism, many thing's in combination, can trigger the plant to think, fuc this, i am going to high speed pollinate myself, to ensure seed broadcast, and strain survival, before i die here, as i now know i wont make it to full ripeness, and get pollinated the usual way................. the environment is not trustworthy................. i need to seed up now, not when the photo dictates.................. i am going to fuc myself right now to ensure seed goes into the ground !!!!!!!!! and my strain survives, hopefully !!.............

All environmental culture conditions (If UN-Cued) can trigger it, if environ factors not synced in (Tropical).................. if you have ever stood and watched a full eclipse of the sun........................ 80% drop in light 10c drop in temp, moody darkness................ your whole body say's WTF !!.............. chill goes down your back...........................

is what the Dame feels when you take her from tropical to temperate & light power zone, to none outside the cab........ !!....... oi oi, what is gong on here !! my photo period, temperature & co2 level just dissipated in one minute ????????? WTF??............

the Qs goes out, "Do I Throw" or "Do i Wait" ??.......... if pure it will wait to see if environment is trustworthy..................

if hybridized with 4x parental influences........it a 40% chance it will......."Throw" but later !!..................... cunning trick that............................."Wait Then Throw" the nadders !!!............

we have all had it, and will again no doubt...........some just do it, for the sake of it, nothing to do with you or your culture skills............. hybridization can bring out the worst, and the best at the same time, in the same plant !!..........................

when the 4x genetic material is "Swapped".................... preservation genes go across also !!.......................... and is why these strains, in the primordial wild, have survived for millions of years.......... self preservation techniques !! genetically embedded........................ ready to be "Triggered" by out of shape environs, or just because on factor moved, several days ago !!...............to avoid it, don't call the plant, gene code into question, "Environmental Stability" is key, and operates buy the minute basis !! ;)............ALR
 
I don't think you have to worry too much about taking pics with them outside the tent.
In nature, it's not always bright sunshine 18 hours a day!
Cloudy days, black skies before a storm, eclipses, elephants etc all happen so a few minutes under some household lights wont cause any harm!
All looking good, BTW my jars vary between taking 2 to 4 ounces, and I put maybe 6 Bovedas in the jars while they cure and for long term storage.

TT its exactly how you explain it...elephants and giraffes number one enemy for hermies xD
ALR is right. We create them a perfect controllable enviroment, why would we want to disturb it?
If in my room the temp is 20C and in the tent 28C then 8C temp drop in the move of a pot will have some kind of impact (if it happens often...)

You must be using 1.5L jars TT then...I guess they have bigger hole and you can fit your hand easier than the 500ml's to choose your smoking bud?


The format of the update above, "WE WILL USE FROM NOW ON"............ it's 100% on the nose, pics & correct imfo for viewers white........... good job there, you got your 100% grade........ the block write up of data at start, only lacks one thing, (Underlined) = Feeding Ec0.5 + Base Water Ec0.3 = Total Ec0.8. other than that bang on....... here are my replies,............. glad you like the way the plants are looking ;)

Yes finally a good recipe to use xD I love how they look. So healthy! A happy tent!...They growing fast the little champs xD

I have now all the tools to take right measurements....Well not everything...I could know more with a ppm meter for co2 levels in the tent and also i could use a good par meter for positioning the pots at the sweet spots...Another tool it will be good is a trustable soil ph meter and even an ec soil meter so i dont depent on the run offs everytime...


yep, these do stink proper when they get going white.............. the 4 dames will fill the 1.5m x 1.5m x 2.0m = "4.5m3" or 4.5 cubic meter grow cab............. you have capacity to change 580m3 minus losses = 350m3/hr air change capacity..............

so 350 per hour divided by "4.5" = 77, seventy seven, CHANGES per hour !!............ with a 30c plus air temp (Summer)............ and the +8c HPS generates................ we will need to shift a lot of air through the cab, to keep the temp down to 32c............. giving soil temp at 26-27c...................as we dont really want to exeed soil temp of 27 or 28c max........... is why teetee uses a free standing "AirCon" unit, in the room the cab is in............ god job we have sorted out improving the "Flow Capacity" in the air temp set up......... the larger capacity in the carbon filter side........................ one on intake..................... two on a Y piece on the out take....... will enable high flow with "CORRECT FILTRATION"................ and no smell "OVERFLOW" from filters at high speed air flows.........


Intake air from outside + aircooled reflector maybe will take me to 30C but i really dont think i can do it without a/c!!
I will get a portable a/c if not in this grow definetely in the next round...

Go figure i couldnt find any Y piece connector anywhere!! They all had the plastic connector they use for water but it was 125mm and 160mm and i need 150mm...Further more i start feeling paranoid when employees asking me in each shop what do i need it for...I could just say its for water but i took it a level up and told them im building a house for my rabbit xD

Afterall the fail attemps to find the Y connector i placed an order from amazon for a proper piece to do things right.....


can you post a pic of the air exit arrangement, you mention you lifted a bar up and fitted outflow grille ??......... no air can be suck back in to the room at this point, the exit point is air tight white yes ??............ pics say a thousand and so on............. no bugs can get in via the hot air exit vent point etc ??


I didnt cover the 6 inch duct flange that i placed on the door. Should i put a 15 denier net there???

Is this where i will place the silencer? On the exit flange on the door?

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white get a block of expanded polystyrene or thick foam, double it, and sit the bucket on it.......dampens vibration 100%...... wrap the bucket in black plastic, to stop light getting in............. so no algae can grow on your nutes................ set pump and heater on timer, to come on 60mins before you want to feed............. plus any time you need to make fresh res and feed frsh and warm at Ec0.5 nute only......

Omg yes the polystyrene!!!!Yes the buckets are black garbage bins they dont need any cover..no light passes, i also have their black top covers....Waiting now for the pumps and will have the big bucket running in the toilet...

ALR i was thinking now that in summer if my soil goes to 24-26C what will the feeding water Temp will be at??
Is there a rule? I am not sure i remember well but did you tell me that feeding water temp should always be +2C of the soil temp?? If soil 24C then feeding water temp 26C? Is this valid or??



live bacteria (Voodo) live microryzal and other micro soil plankton... (Pirranna)........... it quite potent, i would say half dose every 2wks white............... right through the grow.............at half dose of AN nute calculator...... if it lowers Ph when added let me know ok.........

i wk after they all sex... STOP THE ROOT FERAMONE INPUT OK STOP ROOT STIM THEN OK.......

rhino is silica................... is good to use at half dose from start to near the finish...........stop using the "last 4Wks Of Flower"....................as we dont want residues in the flowers ok.................... silica promotes bio cell health, and prevents disease mold and fungal spores developing.......... SILICONE = IS A Ph "UP" ADDITIVE ALSO........... so to use it at "Quarter ml/Ltr/1.............. youmay need to use a "Ph Down"........... after adding the silicone......... rhino skin EVERY OTHER FEED RHINO QUARTER DOSE.....

Ok....Voodoo and piranha goes 1ml/L every 2 weeks. When plant starts staggering the intnodes i will give the Root Stims one more week and then i will not use them again. So we use Root Stims only until 5-6 week of autoflower or until 1 week after the plant has shown us the staggering effect....

RhinoSkin goes throu all the grow at 0.5ml/L every other feed. Roger that!!


IF EACH PLANT, (Say 4 Plants, as small critical has recovered!), so 4 plants give 150g dry each = 600g / 28g (Oz) = 21oz / 1.5oz per 500ml jar = 15no 500ml screw top kilner jars.............. if we only hit 15oz........ then even better, as 1oz per jar................. is best way to store the "Cured" fruits (Buds).................. the RH62% Boveda RH control packs................. ensure perfect smoking RH, when combusted...................it's very smooth......... the full terps are present...........................it's a 100% Dutch Amsterdam Smoking Experience............... it aroma is very powerful though !!!!!!!! is why i vape it 89% aroma reduction !!

Those jars are the ones they have a screwing cover right? Not the clip open/close type right?
I hope we can pull so much weed from them! It will be a very good prize at the end of the day!




DONT WANT THE STINK, POTENT CANNA AROMA, ESCAPING INTO THE HOUSE OK................. THE IAR IS BEING DRAWN IN UNDER THE ENTRANCE DOOR TO THE ROOM..................... SO NO STINK CAN GET OUT AROUND THE DOOR, AS ITS AN AIR IN POINT........................

JUST ENSURE YOU KEEP IT CLOSED WHEN IN THERE FEEDING DURING FLOWERING..........KEEP THE NEGATIVE AIR FLOW ON THE DOOR !!................

KEEP IT SHUT........................ THE STINK IN THE ROOM (FEEDING) WILL BE DRAWN BACK INTO THE CAB AND TREATED AND PUSHED OUT OF THE ROOM.............. VIA OUR OUT VENT.....................

THE STINK IN THE ROOM, "WILL GET IN YOUR CLOTHES"...................... YOU WILL BECOME "iMUNE" TO IT................YOUR NOSE WILL...................."SHUT OFF TO THE AROMA"......................... I GO INTO THE ROOM.................... PANTS AND SOCKS..........................ONLY...................AND GET DRESSED WHEN I COME OUT.....................

SO I DONT STINK, STINK, OF CANNA...........................THAT I CANNOT SMELL !!!! (SO TRUE).................. AFTER I GET DRESSED AGAIN......... I DONT STINK OF CANNA.......... WHEN IN A LOCAL SHOP..................... !!.........................YOU CANT SMELL IT BUT "THEY CAN!".........................(SO TRUE)...............

YOU DONT WANT YOUR SON THINKING YOU GOT A NEW COLOGNE !!!!



I REFER YOU TO THE ANSWER ABOVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COMMON SENSE MUST RULE HERE......... AND REMEMBER YOU BECOME IMUNE TO THE SMELL EVENTUALLY................

WHEN YOU CUT THEM DOWN AND TRIM THEM........... PANTS AND SOCKS ONLY.. YOU WILL BE SITTING INSIDE THE TENT............... LUCKY ITS 1.5M X 1.5M.............. AND TRIMMING AND PUTTING ONE HANDFULL OF BUD INTO ONE "A4" BROWN "PAPER BAGS", FOLDED OVER, TO HANG AND DRY ON A SOCK HANGER OVAL RAIL WITH PEGS ON IT.......... THERE THE FLOWERS WILL DRY AT 24-26C................... (RH) WILL BE HIGHER DUE TO WATER LIBERATING FROM FLOWERS, DURING DRYING White ok........... once dry'ed to (RH62%) they are put into the kilner jars for a 10-15 day "Cure" = Kilner Jar Cure = "De-Carboxylation" process ok...........the rise of the terpens !!! ALR

BRO THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO LET ME KNOW WHATS COMING AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT!!!

TO ANYONE WATCHING THIS THREAD AND IS A NOOB LIKE ME, THE SAFETY SHOULD BE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY WHEN YOU ATTEMPTING A GROW...

I think i have to move wifes cothes from the drawers in the upper room now....
Again saved me from trouble xD



CULTURE INSTRUCTIONS;
White'ty here are some new instructions, to be done now as soon as we can ok..............

It's time to top "Prune" the "Dames" white'ty................... see the middle stem below, cut it off there ok, on all four plants, right now, as pic below; we are at 6th and 5th internode, topping can be done, never before the 4th internode = stress to plant............. allways post / after, 4th internode, before staggering begins or just after.............. is fine..................never after 12/12 with fems white'ty ok................ if you ever do fems etc


white if you look at the top of your amnesia...............the internode has "Just" started to "Stagger Apart"............ the other 3 "have Not yet"................... this is sexing, the amnesia is sexing ok................... chop the top out as pic above...................... we are day 23................. so they sex around 3wks day 21..................... so 2 days late !!.................... they all go at different times ok..................... the ultimate's and critical will sex next.............."Staggering nodes" ok...................... fruitification has begun on the "Early" amnesia, the rise of ethylene the sex hormone has begun..............

Why Top Them ???????????

it diverts energy budget, "More Evenly" throughout the plants life................. longer stronger bows, two no center colas are also created..................... being a tad smaller, reduces the risk of mold on flowers near harvest.................. satellite bow buds are more walnut sized.................... perfect for bag appeal............. that walnut sized nugget of pure cured, crystallized aroma de terpenes............................. when you snip out the tops................... use a pair of sharp "Pointed" scissors.................... to get either side of the stem, between the sprouts either side ok.........................good luck ;), with ya 1st topping out !!

ALR please just tell me i didnt fuk up the topping...Please tell me i did the right thing....I didnt know exactly what to do so i followed the structure of the plant to give the 'top cut'

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re hermaphroditism, many thing's in combination, can trigger the plant to think, fuc this, i am going to high speed pollinate myself, to ensure seed broadcast, and strain survival, before i die here, as i now know i wont make it to full ripeness, and get pollinated the usual way................. the environment is not trustworthy................. i need to seed up now, not when the photo dictates.................. i am going to fuc myself right now to ensure seed goes into the ground !!!!!!!!! and my strain survives, hopefully !!.............

All environmental culture conditions (If UN-Cued) can trigger it, if environ factors not synced in (Tropical).................. if you have ever stood and watched a full eclipse of the sun........................ 80% drop in light 10c drop in temp, moody darkness................ your whole body say's WTF !!.............. chill goes down your back...........................

is what the Dame feels when you take her from tropical to temperate & light power zone, to none outside the cab........ !!....... oi oi, what is gong on here !! my photo period, temperature & co2 level just dissipated in one minute ????????? WTF??............

the Qs goes out, "Do I Throw" or "Do i Wait" ??.......... if pure it will wait to see if environment is trustworthy..................

if hybridized with 4x parental influences........it a 40% chance it will......."Throw" but later !!..................... cunning trick that............................."Wait Then Throw" the nadders !!!............

we have all had it, and will again no doubt...........some just do it, for the sake of it, nothing to do with you or your culture skills............. hybridization can bring out the worst, and the best at the same time, in the same plant !!..........................

when the 4x genetic material is "Swapped".................... preservation genes go across also !!.......................... and is why these strains, in the primordial wild, have survived for millions of years.......... self preservation techniques !! genetically embedded........................ ready to be "Triggered" by out of shape environs, or just because on factor moved, several days ago !!...............to avoid it, don't call the plant, gene code into question, "Environmental Stability" is key, and operates buy the minute basis !! ;)............ALR

Could never get a better picture of what is causing hermies in the cannabis plant!! A world class explenation xD Amazing how everything is working in nature....Here we see 2 factors cooperate to produce a result...In the first case there is the chemical reaction to produce the 'balls' and on the other case the 'fear' of the plant who make things start working to produce....Another great example that science is just the half of the creation...Other half is the 'soul' of the living organisms....We own the 1st part but 2nd part will never be owned by anyone....

Thanks ALR...The best teacher ever...One day when my son starts understanding words instead of saying fairy tales i will say him stories like this one...True facts!!

@Teetee Another great lesson TT!!

P.s Im reading in the internet that british are getting suppliers for house surviving?? Is this true?? I hope everything turns out without problems there...I have an uncle who is said to me that he predicts a new public vote for brexit...

P.s2: I just read that a woman who is from my country and she lives and working as an academic in the UK is responsible for starting a sign petition counting more than 4 million signatures to make a new public vote....
 
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TT its exactly how you explain it...elephants and giraffes number one enemy for hermies xD
ALR is right. We create them a perfect controllable enviroment, why would we want to disturb it?
If in my room the temp is 20C and in the tent 28C then 8C temp drop in the move of a pot will have some kind of impact (if it happens often...)

You must be using 1.5L jars TT then...I guess they have bigger hole and you can fit your hand easier than the 500ml's to choose your smoking bud?




Yes finally a good recipe to use xD I love how they look. So healthy! A happy tent!...They growing fast the little champs xD

I have now all the tools to take right measurements....Well not everything...I could know more with a ppm meter for co2 levels in the tent and also i could use a good par meter for positioning the pots at the sweet spots...Another tool it will be good is a trustable soil ph meter and even an ec soil meter so i dont depent on the run offs everytime...





Intake air from outside + aircooled reflector maybe will take me to 30C but i really dont think i can do it without a/c!!
I will get a portable a/c if not in this grow definetely in the next round...

Go figure i couldnt find any Y piece connector anywhere!! They all had the plastic connector they use for water but it was 125mm and 160mm and i need 150mm...Further more i start feeling paranoid when employees asking me in each shop what do i need it for...I could just say its for water but i took it a level up and told them im building a house for my rabbit xD

Afterall the fail attemps to find the Y connector i placed an order from amazon for a proper piece to do things right.....





I didnt cover the 6 inch duct flange that i placed on the door. Should i put a 15 denier net there???

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Omg yes the polystyrene!!!!Yes the buckets are black garbage bins they dont need any cover..no light passes, i also have their black top covers....Waiting now for the pumps and will have the big bucket running in the toilet...

ALR i was thinking now that in summer if my soil goes to 24-26C what will the feeding water Temp will be at??
Is there a rule? I am not sure i remember well but did you tell me that feeding water temp should always be +2C of the soil temp?? If soil 24C then feeding water temp 26C? Is this valid or??









Ok....Voodoo and piranha goes 1ml/L every 2 weeks. When plant starts staggering the intnodes i will give the Root Stims one more week and then i will not use them again. So we use Root Stims only until 5-6 week of autoflower or until 1 week after the plant has shown us the staggering effect....

Question:ALR...now that i have topped the plants and i dont have the top to tell of any staggering...How i will understand that the plant is sexxing and fruiting?

RhinoSkin goes throu all the grow at 0.5ml/L every other feed. Roger that!!




Those jars are the ones they have a screwing cover right? Not the clip open/close type right?
I hope we can pull so much weed from them! It will be a very good prize at the end of the day!






BRO THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME AND EFFORT TO LET ME KNOW WHATS COMING AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT!!!

TO ANYONE WATCHING THIS THREAD AND IS A NOOB LIKE ME, THE SAFETY SHOULD BE NUMBER 1 PRIORITY WHEN YOU ATTEMPTING A GROW...

I think i have to move wifes cothes from the drawers in the upper room now....
Again saved me from trouble xD





ALR please just tell me i didnt fuk up the topping...Please tell me i did the right thing....I didnt know exactly what to do so i followed the structure of the plant to give the 'top cut'

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Could never get a better picture of what is causing hermies in the cannabis plant!! A world class explenation xD Amazing how everything is working in nature....Here we see 2 factors cooperate to produce a result...In the first case there is the chemical reaction to produce the 'balls' and on the other case the 'fear' of the plant who make things start working to produce....Another great example that science is just the half of the creation...Other half is the 'soul' of the living organisms....We own the 1st part but 2nd part will never be owned by anyone....

Thanks ALR...The best teacher ever...One day when my son starts understanding words instead of saying fairy tales i will say him stories like this one...True facts!!

@Teetee Another great lesson TT!!

P.s Im reading in the internet that british are getting suppliers for house surviving?? Is this true?? I hope everything turns out without problems there...I have an uncle who is said to me that he predicts a new public vote for brexit...
Hey these loik good man your doing a fine job im gonna watch, also something you may not know i saw something about advanced bud factor x and few others aswell as others green planet were found to have pesticides u should look it up on google it seem legit i got rid of mine not worth it if it does just want people to have quality meds i hope everything goes well for you here good luck and i will fallow the rest of this grow
 
Hey these loik good man your doing a fine job im gonna watch, also something you may not know i saw something about advanced bud factor x and few others aswell as others green planet were found to have pesticides u should look it up on google it seem legit i got rid of mine not worth it if it does just want people to have quality meds i hope everything goes well for you here good luck and i will fallow the rest of this grow

Thank you for the warning Fitzy...There is ablosultely almost nothing left untouched brother...Everything for the $$$....Good vs Evil...Common good vs Personal Interest..........
Everything is running under big control my friend....Their next move is going to be the absolute terror.......European army will take over the streets instead of cops everytime there will be riots, like now in France with the yellow vests.....The yellow vests is an inside job like the 9/11....people dont realise this.....yellow vests is just an excuse to make the army job take place and have us under full controllable state.....
They want to make a robotic humanity....Fitzy they control everything throu their clone factories...They have their clones everywhere taking any decision they want....In not the so far future they will create a system where you will give blood to a machine and this machine will know your sicknesses and the sicknesses you WILL have and they will sent you package at your house with their medicine inside package like from amazon, fedex, postoffice etc......This is so they take all of our info throu that system where you give blood and also to make you take the medicine from them which is going to make you sick....They will control you FULL like this and with a press of a button they will be able to disconnect you in your sleep and that will be another 'heart attack' or 'stroke'................This is allready happening to a lot of people....strokes....heart attacks...even to young people.........
You think its coinsidence they trying to get in the cannabis nutrients?? Im sure they paid a lot these companies to use illegal pesticides in their bottles......maybe they even controlling some of the companies members...........
But there are people out there who make their tests and find out about pesticides and warn us. A big Thanks to these people...
 
also i could use a good par meter for positioning the pots at the sweet spots...Another tool it will be good is a trustable soil ph meter and even an ec soil meter so i dont depent on the run offs everytime...

a "Lux" meter is usefull,............. we know though, the strongest photon flux is directly under the light, @24-26c at canopy height, and lux tends to fades as you move to the side etc......

water is the best run off meter !................. soil Ph meters are notorious for giving wrong readings !! a flush covers the soil from top to bottom.............. and is a reading of now, rather than from the end of a soil probe.....

Intake air from outside + aircooled reflector maybe will take me to 30C but i really dont think i can do it without a/c!!
I will get a portable a/c if not in this grow definetely in the next round...

we will see how the temp rises, when we have our Y piece system, (Out Flow Side) and the carbon filter in the tent also (In Flow Side), air flow "Into" the filter, so essentially you have a carbon filyter both ends of the fan !!........ on the outflow side two number carbon filters on the Y piece................ will give you high air flow, with "Proper" specs on the filtration speed...........................

pump air to "fast" through a filter................. aroma removal can drop to 40% or less.............................. if RH rises above 65%.................... carbon filter removal efficiency "Drops"................ by varying percentages......... relative to flow speeds............... to fast and to highan RH (Relative Humidity).........................you will get "Aromatic Overflow"................... stink being pumped out, not treated................. if you get 32c to 35c.................... every year...................

you will need aircon in the room, same as teetee...................... to get the temp down in the grow cab to 32c max white ok......... if we have 35c air temp...................could rise to 28-40c !!................. that will shut down the stoma of the plant............. and slow growth (And Plant De-Hydration), plant protects it's self from de-hydration by closing breather holes "Stoma" under the leaf........ also 'VPd" goe's wild, another high temp consequence............ plus you dont want the HPS running in 35c plus...................... the bulb temp will rise above 600c at the rear of the 'Glass" envelope...................... not good.............................. just as a saftety alert,............ put a battery smoke allarm in the cab "At The Top" of tent ok white'ty mate................ common sense right..................... make it a loud one !!

didnt cover the 6 inch duct flange that i placed on the door. Should i put a 15 denier net there???

Is this where i will place the silencer? On the exit flange on the door?

no need to cover the hot air out vent through the door panel you "Lifted" up white ok..................... only on the intake duct in the house,........................ which is pulling in air from inside the room only at the moment................. when weather begins to hot up,......................... we can suck cold air into the cab from outaside, via the door panel, you used for the outake air, being pushed out,....................... we can duct from door to the top of the tent the cold outside "Night" air....................... and of course the warmer morning air up to midday when the lights go of at 12 midday................. not a prob

................. duct the cold outside night time air 'With 15 Denier" bug filter................ on the air in at the door, and also at where the exit end of the cold air in duct is at the top of the cab, cold air sinks through the hot then ok.......... 15 denier both ends of passive "External" intake air.........

now that in summer if my soil goes to 24-26C what will the feeding water Temp will be at??
Is there a rule? I am not sure i remember well but did you tell me that feeding water temp should always be +2C of the soil temp?? If soil 24C then feeding water temp 26C? Is this valid or??

AIR CON !!!!!!!!!.............(Control Room Temp, Controls CAB temp! Controls SOIL Temp !!).......... WE DONT WANT THE CULTURE TEWMP ABOVE 32C AS A max............... OTHERWISE SOIL TEMP WILL RISE ABOVE 26C.....................WHICH IS OUT MAX SOIL YTEMP OK............... AIR TEMP CAN GO TO 33C............. STOMA BEGIN TO CLOSE ABOVE 35C................ GROWTH WILL THEN SLOW................. DRINKING WILL SLOW, NUTE UPTAKE SLOWS..................

When plant starts staggering the intnodes i will give the Root Stims one more week and then i will not use them again. So we use Root Stims only until 5-6 week of autoflower or until 1 week after the plant has shown us the staggering effect....

CORRECT.........

Those jars are the ones they have a screwing cover right? Not the clip open/close type right?

THESE ARE HERMETIC SEAL "KILNERS".............. A RUBBER TRIMMED RADIAL SEAL, SEPARATE ROUND DISK, TO THE GLASS LIDS, 100% AIR TIGHT,...................... TEETEE USES 500ML ................ YOU CAN GET 1LTR ONES I THINK............... IN 500ML JAR = 1.5 TO 2 OZ MAX...................... DO NOT COMPRESS BUDS IN JAR, GRAVITY FILL OK, OTHERWISE YOU "KNOCK OFF" THE TRICHOMES BEFORE YOU CAN USE THEM !! UNDER THE EDGE YOU CAN SLIDE UNDER THE JAR DETAILS, LIKE "Gorrilla Girl, Supercrop Victim no2"............. cut 06/06/2019. trick here is to "Weigh" the jar empty, record it on the lid, then when you want to know how much "left" in jar, just weigh jar, deduct jar weight, leaves contents weight !!.................... minus, 1no or 2no, 10g "Boveda" pack each jar...... = weight green left in jar

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I think i have to move wifes cothes from the drawers in the upper room now....
Again saved me from trouble xD

if there are clothes in the room where the cab is, then yea, move em out bro..................... shoes to, we have air being pulled into the room from under, and around the edge of the room door at the mo right ?............. so no stink can get out into the house this is a good method, same as i use, neg pressure in the culture room.............. all you have to do next is use the room instead of the cab !!...................... as you have a room inside a room !!....................

same as i started, room in a room !! wernt long before the room became the culture room !!................................ as you only need 4 plants....................... you probably better off in the tent in the room....................... i went from 4 plants to 9 in the whole room !!...................... 480 to 600g will do you two !! for the grow period 90 days auto's or up to 115 days on fems........

ALR please just tell me i didnt fuk up the topping...Please tell me i did the right thing....I didnt know exactly what to do so i followed the structure of the plant to give the 'top cut'

you did fine white'ty mate, no panick........................ you just cut the top shoot out, at just above the intyernode, the little shoot in the middles as you did........................ and as the pic i posted you................. i can see the bow strengthening already, with energy divert.................... cool..... the effect is "Bushing" out........... height control, you can, and i do on occasion, pinch out the larger side bows............. "before Staggering" begins........... but not necessary,....................unless you have an UN-ruly and unduely massive shooter side bow, pinch it out at the top, stop it shooting up...................

I just read that a woman who is from my country and she lives and working as an academic in the UK is responsible for starting a sign petition counting more than 4 million signatures to make a new public vote....

MP Leyla moran = daughter of mother, Randa, and English father "Jimmy" James Moran........... quite a character by all accounts....................

800,000 citizens (Check)
English did run it (Check)
Was on the pound (Check)
People round here notice everything (Check)
White'ty is Palestinian (Check)................ correct ?/........

Born to a British father and a "Palestinian mother" from Jerusalem, Leyla Moran will be the only standing MP with Arab heritage in the June 8 general elections in Uk in 2021................

Could never get a better picture of what is causing hermies in the cannabis plant!! A world class explenation xD Amazing how everything is working in nature....

here are the "Bollox" = "Hermie Nannas" = "Canna Gonads" = "Skunk Testicles"........... = KEEP YOUR EYE'S PEELED DOUBLE TIME, FOR THESE LITTLE "MALE ORGANELLE'S" !!
If you get them before they open, pinch em out, "NO HARM Done"................if they open, and yellow pollen get blown around the room on numerous fans, that are "NOT" needed............... fertilization will occur" !!

the male and female organelle's
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this is a "Fem" that has thrown a gender identity crisis... female, turning male.....
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a full blow 100% "Regular Photo-period" male..... 100% male usually a thin streak of piss from the start............ in the end you spot them before they sex !!!!!!!! we have all had them , willl again no doubt................ you will get them at some stage in your culture life white ok......................... keep your environs on spec................ give "NO" reason to trigger a hermaphrodite,........................that way, when it do happen,......................you know it was "Nothing" to do with your culture parameters, just was one that threw the bollox just for the sake of it, about sums it up........................ some just do it for the sake of it......................... like a backwashed spasticus plant..............
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allway's keep an eye on the "Internode" sections, is where the bollox show up 1st white, can happen any time, but "usually" just after 12/12 with fems, and auto's just after the 1st flowers show, day 21 to 35............. all auto's should flower before day 35,..................

White'ty, when we do "Regulars" (Not Auto's Or Fems), they are beans with female and male seeds mixed in together, after 40 to 50 day veg !! we switch 12/12 with Regulars........... then we wait for the males to show the bollox, then we "Kill" them asap !!...........BEFORE THE BOLLOX OPEN AND SPILL THE MALE'S YELLOW POLLEN INTO THE AIR FROM THE LITTLE "STAMINATE" PARCELS !!........ as long as we kill the "Regular" males, all is wel, with the female regulars......they go on to produce lots of flowers..... white'ty mate, whats the weather like in Palestine today bruv ??.......

two day's to next update on 27th................cant wait !!............... now we have topped em white'ty KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR BOLLOX OK.................. SOME CAN TAKE THE BE HEADING THE WRONG WAY !! LOL......keep a watch on internodes though ok........ i am off to order me next set of dutch passion beans.................. what they will be is the hard bit !! fems or auto's !!................. tee's got me on the auto's now !! he is returning to auto's his next grow,........................... i have to decide now !!.............ALR
 
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we will see how the temp rises, when we have our Y piece system, (Out Flow Side) and the carbon filter in the tent also (In Flow Side), air flow "Into" the filter, so essentially you have a carbon filyter both ends of the fan !!........ on the outflow side two number carbon filters on the Y piece................ will give you high air flow, with "Proper" specs on the filtration speed...........................

pump air to "fast" through a filter................. aroma removal can drop to 40% or less.............................. if RH rises above 65%.................... carbon filter removal efficiency "Drops"................ by varying percentages......... relative to flow speeds............... to fast and to highan RH (Relative Humidity).........................you will get "Aromatic Overflow"................... stink being pumped out, not treated................. if you get 32c to 35c.................... every year...................

Now i have got the new carbon filter...The second filter will be my 'old' one
My concern is with my old filter...Im not sure if its working properly....It was brand new and i didnt use it much but i think i used it in high humidity and with full fan....(noob move)
I dont know how to test and see if its working properly....If you can think of a test idea im all ears ALR...Or if i cant understand if my old filter is working or not then i should order another one new.....


you will need aircon in the room, same as teetee...................... to get the temp down in the grow cab to 32c max white ok......... if we have 35c air temp...................could rise to 28-40c !!................. that will shut down the stoma of the plant............. and slow growth (And Plant De-Hydration), plant protects it's self from de-hydration by closing breather holes "Stoma" under the leaf........ also 'VPd" goe's wild, another high temp consequence............ plus you dont want the HPS running in 35c plus...................... the bulb temp will rise above 600c at the rear of the 'Glass" envelope...................... not good.............................. just as a saftety alert,............ put a battery smoke allarm in the cab "At The Top" of tent ok white'ty mate................ common sense right..................... make it a loud one !!

My 600w light will be very hot for the summer.....
I need to know more about the leds you guys are using....
I could run 2 of those leds @ 400w in summer and get much less heat i guess...It will make a nice summer grow of 2 feminized without much usage of a/c
Question: 2 x skyline 400 will produce 50% less heat than an aircooled 600w hps?


I was thinking also to go for 1000hps for the winter... Like this i could have the 28c without the need of a heater...The 600w with 20C outdoor temps takes the cab to 24c without the air cool reflector in use....The 1000 will hit the desirable degrees i think...for winter.........

Good idea with the smoke detector ALR!




white'ty mate, whats the weather like in Palestine today bruv ??.......

I ate 2 cheesecake ice creams today...I cant complain xD

two day's to next update on 27th................cant wait !!............... now we have topped em white'ty KEEP AN EYE OUT FOR BOLLOX OK.................. SOME CAN TAKE THE BE HEADING THE WRONG WAY !! LOL......keep a watch on internodes though ok........ i am off to order me next set of dutch passion beans.................. what they will be is the hard bit !! fems or auto's !!................. tee's got me on the auto's now !! he is returning to auto's his next grow,........................... i have to decide now !!.............ALR

Im so glad i topped them in a right way...I could do it sooner for the amnesia, before she make the stag, but she took the top very well. They all did...I couldnt wait today to finish job and come to look at them to see their respond after topping....They just got bigger and wider now! I doubled check for hermie phenomeno but they all clear and safe xD

Congratsulations for the harvest btw ALR...The desfran is finally finished!....I wish i had one of those paper bags right now xD The desfran looks amazing!! So nice color!!! It took really 80 days for desfran? HOW? The dp info says 15 weeks....

I want to grow some desfran....and the cinderella jack...Have you growed her? Is she a strong hitter? I saw TT tried the grow of the cinderella but it didnt turn out like he wanted...But his Glueberries Og got him 3 places in the highest yields of AFN xD

Just go here https://www.autoflower.org/threads/dutch-passion-highest-yields-list.57794/ and press the ctrl+f and write Teetee and then all the page will go highlighted oO
'Super T'
 
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.It was brand new and i didnt use it much but i think i used it in high humidity and with full fan....(noob move)
I dont know how to test and see if its working properly..

if it just had a high speed, high RH flow through it for a shortish period, even a longer period. High RH "Will Not" damage the cintered carbon "Pores" white ok.................... only particulate dust (15 denier trap) can block the cintered carbon pores ok.............. is why the CF's have a white cloth washable cover, 'Dust" is no1 enemy of carbon pores....................... this is usual reason for failiure, bad air filtration pre carbon filter intake !!!!!

2 layers of denier 15................. or a fine window nett, net holes 0.25mm 250 microns etc............... most bugs and dust above 200 microns in size................... at 450m3/hr (580 fan) minus air drag loss = 450-48m3/hr.....................that is a lot of air into and out of the cab 1 week = 75,600/m3/Per Week, you will change filter every 3wks !! 226,800/m3/Per 3 Weeks............. use your pre used filter, "As Long As" it is the same size, so no uneven flow "Bias" between the two, on the "Y" peices ok................. otherwise one if smaller will get favored by pressure differential white ok........................

have a larger carbon filter 800 to 1000m3/hr on the intake side of fan (Double The fan capacity)......... as we discussed................... or instead of one, 100m3/hr, two number 480m3/hr on a Y piece on the intake side, of the extractor the (In Cab Filters)........................... = high flow capacity for the 450m3/hr fan, with proper treatment capacity....................

White'ty;......earlier in this blog, you asked me how to rig up a fan to get hot air at top of cab to the bottom,.................. using an in cab floor positioned small 100mm carbon filter, with a small fan pumping hot aitr from cab top to bottom through the floor positioned small carbon filter.............. Qs; "Did U Do It" ??...................... set up the hot air in cab "Re-circulation" system................... ???? i sent you links to the product list and type required..................... for the pro cab set up, with this, the carbon filter on the hot air recuirc, takes some of the aroma treatment "Strain" off, the main extractor system...........

I need to know more about the leds you guys are using....
I could run 2 of those leds @ 400w in summer and get much less heat i guess...It will make a nice summer grow of 2 feminized without much usage of a/c
Question: 2 x skyline 400 will produce 50% less heat than an aircooled 600w hps?

i was going to suggest, 2no "400w" duel HPS................... better light spread to the 4 Dames,........... plus more flux of ligh lux to the 4 plants...........

the led's run at around 28-30c in summer............. so 4no in my room 13m3 space, .it runs at 26-28c.........at that temp RH drops to 25-30%............................VPd pressure begins on the stoma !!.... above 32 to 34c................................

thermo fan controlled space, runs all year, at 26-28c untill the outdoor temp drops to 15c...........then the room temp drops in winter.......................and i have to use a 1kw floor fan heater to keep culture temps up, during 'Lights On" !!

.the perfect VPd is formed by 26 to 28c air temp in cab.......... RH spikes after watering for just a few hours................. hence the water plant one day, leave the next (RH Out, Oxygen Into the Plant) then water again, a 3 day cycle...........water 24hr leave 24hr water24hr.................. once 9When Hot) twice a week water to small run off, soak right through as mentioned..... i will PM you re the led lights ok............ tee uses 4no in his 1.5m cab..................same for you................much better ligh distribution, 70% less electricity 60% less heat.......... heat is = to energy "Loss" !!....................

I was thinking also to go for 1000hps for the winter... Like this i could have the 28c without the need of a heater...The 600w with 20C outdoor temps takes the cab to 24c without the air cool reflector in use....The 1000 will hit the desirable degrees i think...for winter.........

you are tuning into your cabin environ through the spring, summer, winter "Thermal Curve".................. yes the (1000w) = 2no 400w for better light distribution.............. two 400's would run it sweet, when the air outside being brought in (If Needed) would tune it in at 26-28c winter just nice........... 'The Cabin Thermal Season's"

I ate 2 cheesecake ice creams today.

Thats sounds proper jubly.................. i like a mega "Oyster" ice cream !! with 4no large chocy flakes, nuts, (Fits Right In) and choc sauce !!!!................ you will defo experience a rise in appetite after a vape of 2:1 ratio "Ultimate" BHO !!........................is like pure goodness medicine........... for the 'Soul" ;)............. irrelevant of whats going on around you man.....

respond after topping....They just got bigger and wider now! I doubled check for hermie phenomeno but they all clear and safe xD

yea, energy re distribution is a wonder of nature...................the bounce back hormones !!................ deliver (25%) more weight bro................ proper bushes, fill the 1.5m x 1.5m na probs, as you will see !!........ we remove the "Under canopy" all the small micro bows, one that did not make it to the ligh niches............. we under trim, to improve air flows................ and co2 flows !!

So nice color!!! It took really 80 days for desfran? HOW? The dp info says 15 weeks....

78 days was done, the 115 day DesFran is a (Fem)................. the auto is quicker by 25-30 day's................... but same yeilds nowadays as fems..................... if not more than fems..................... tee swears by the DP Auto Extreme, as it's "XXXL" yield !..............................hence 7 to 8 500ml kilner jars per plant !! no joke either...

I want to grow some desfran....and the cinderella jack...Have you growed her? Is she a strong hitter? I saw TT tried the grow of the cinderella but it didnt turn out like he wanted...But his Glueberries Og got him 3 places in the highest yields of AFN xD

Yes, i recommend the Auto DF and the Auto "Lemon Zkittle"................ as Lemon zkittle was 2018 champ of champs at high times cup Amsterdam.................... in other words 15 independent judges voted it "A1".......... on terps, head, presentation, aroma and medical effect !!!!..................... ive did it before release..............it is A1.....................and my next auto run will be DesFran, Lemon Zkittle & "StarRyder"..........

i have just ordered a new set of carbon filters, as these have done 3yrs and a bit !!....99 harvests) in a 13m3 room....9 plants in 13m3, the DesFran top stink danko, as did the daiquiri limes and think different !!..... i got 'Mild" high temp" low RH carbon filter overflow, at a 34c room temp spike.................. after a walk in the fr4ewsh air to clear nose, straight in, and lift the loft hatch up,.............. just a faint wiff of canna..... i dropped temp and it went....................... what caused temp spike was the thermo floor fan 'Off" trigger, was sticking a bit..................... elevating the temp.

i only use "LEd's"................... so in winter during lights "On"........... i have to use the heater fan floor mounted, to keep temp up for proper culture................ the fan keeps temp up, as LEd's cant on their own yea......... i got me a new 1kw thermo fan now, with new filters...........................3.5yr not bad though 200 quids worth over 3.5yrs........ 60 quid a year renewables !!...................... ALR

that's a 585m3/hr rhino thermo fan, intake 1350m3/hr carbon filter, 1 meter long can, on a 200mm neck ! The fan output side = 2no 480m3/hr 125mm neck, carbons on a Y piece.......... in the loft, passive air in through the room entrance door 100mm duct, cold air in, exiting at ceiling, cold air drop through the hot right........ ALR
 
it's the 27th today are we updating today ??...ALR

ALR i was checking your harvest you posted today...I just cant stop looking how nice finishing you give them...All the leaves turn yellow like it should be...Magic touch!

I will try zkittle for my first time the next grow for sure...The strain looks promising! Im sure i will not regret....Did you allready smoked it and know what to expect?...

I should have updated yesterday but i got a lot of postage come in the evening so i had to run to town collect the boxes and start working on things....I was up until late working on and i think i have done something nice...

I was thinking the idea for 2 x 400w dual spectrums and i think it will be the best solution to get grow temps without the use of a heater...Those heaters are exploding the electric bill...

This is the setup with the 2 x carbon filters plus the Siliencer....Question: I read somewhere that silencer should have 1 meter acoustic ducting installed before and after it. I get noise reduction for sure but if i use some insulated duct i will hear better results?

The little tent has turned up into a spaceship...I wonder what kind of space travels it will give me xD

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White'ty;......earlier in this blog, you asked me how to rig up a fan to get hot air at top of cab to the bottom,.................. using an in cab floor positioned small 100mm carbon filter, with a small fan pumping hot aitr from cab top to bottom through the floor positioned small carbon filter.............. Qs; "Did U Do It" ??

Unfortunately no...I dont even understand how to make this thing...When i will decide to do it i will ask your assistance...I got the links i just cant get how to do it properly ALR...Thank you bro!



I have finally finish the setup and im ready for the update with photos...I missed some sleep last night and i couldnt relax from the overthinking xD Thats just me until i make something right...So lets get there and see the little champs!

UPDATE info 27/3/2019

Temps 26-28C Light ON / 24-26C Light OFF
Humidity 45%
Light: Dual Spectrum 600w @ 70cm distance from canopy
Soil temps 21C
Leaf temps 23C
Feeding 0.8 nute + 0.3 water = 1.1 EC, ph 6.8 @ 24C every 48 hours

I raised their feeding by 0.3 ec on the last watering and they seem to love it..I keep a close look on their tips tho just to make sure i dont over nute them...
They received some RhinoSkin 0.7ml/L along with some Sensizym 0.7ml/L during their last 2 feeds. I also started some calmag @ 0.5ml/L...
They all got a nice top with the scissors just above 4th node 2 days ago...


Ultimate_1 Height 49cm
Day 32 since got in the dirt (30 days since got a head up in the soil)
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Ultimate_2 Height 38cm
Day 32 since got in the dirt (30 days since got a head up in the soil)
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Critical + 2.0 Height 42cm
Day 30 since got in the dirt (28 days since got a head up in the soil)
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Amnesia xxl Height 44cm
Day 29 since got in the dirt (27 days since got a head up in the soil)
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I forgot to mention that i have the 2 pumps 1500/h and they are just PERFECT!!

1 pump is in the bucket with the heater and then on a timer 30L = 4 x 30min

Other pump i use it to 'cook' the nutes...OMG LIKE A BOSS!! just press the button and the pump makes the spin! xD

Yep those pumps are a strong gadget....Too bad the bucket is very big for my cab...If i find a 25l bucket like the one you told me i will use it for the tent
 
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