Indoor Autos in Organic Soil with Tap Water

[Mozzy]

It's a learning process mate. ️ knowledge is gained from every grow.
Let them go , soak up the light and build roots to sook up that water and nutrition.

A seedling needs no attention or water for at least 7 days
As long as you don't drench the seed or seedlings.
Small leaves don't metabolise all that water and can't root .

Thanks for the feedback Sawney I usually never have issues anymore and have grown quite a few pounds since I had to do anything other than put soaked/barely sprouted seeds in their final SIPs. I think I'm starting to see the struggles of getting through some of my oldest seeds as they show their ages. I'll likely start multiples going forward of the really old ones until I get through them...it'll take years though

Regarding problems removing your plants along with their medium from the cups without too much physical disruption:
To a large extent this is likely due to the cups being so small and their shape. Particularly with the added tube (or not), the smaller cup is much more prone to disruption vs. a larger container (and also less prone to root binding problems). I use 1 qt./32 oz. plastic yogurt or cottage containers with no problems, everything slips out cleanly as one piece, and this even works well with relatively structurally weak coco with >25% perlite. Also the fluting vs. smooth sides of the cups likely make for uneven and better adhesion to the inside surface, make it harder to simply pop/slide out the whole mass.

Or if you want to stay with small cups, consider using paper cups, which can be torn, openings cut or cut off cleanly and have flat sides.

Thanks, Bll...that makes sense structurally; appreciate your thoughts

 

[paulg]

Mozzy ( GroBucket Bro): here’s a low to no stress technique, I developed. Works for me. I would prefer to go directly to the final container, but that’s not always possible.

 

[Mozzy]

Mozzy ( GroBucket Bro): here’s a low to no stress technique, I developed. Works for me. I would prefer to go directly to the final container, but that’s not always possible.
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That's an interesting option, thanks P!

 

[Mozzy]

...the extraction fan is still set to go out at 75%RH with temps in the high 70s-low 80s:

GC at day 23 above ground, 3 days past topping/node removal and no concerns other than it has the most node spacing I’ve had in multiple grows (likely due to light distance/intensity which I hadn’t adjusted due to the other slower starters); so I upped the dimmer to ~62% on the light and this GC at ~20” away on the far left of the tent is getting about 35 DLI at the canopy top now on 18/16:

LZ at 11 days up (5 days post traumatic-transplant)…looks like it’ll live, we’ll see if/how stunted:

LCs at 6/5 days up (3 days post traumatic-transplant)…looks like they may live too, we’ll see if/how stunted they are and hopefully at least one is not a dude :

 

[Mozzy]

GC at day 26 above ground and growing by the day, so I moved the light up to highest it’ll likely go this grow and I upped the dimmer to ~75% on the light so this GC canopy at ~19-22” away on the far left of the tent is getting upwards of 45 DLI at that canopy top now (hopefully that’ll curb some stretch, otherwise I may need to supercrop this one at some point); the seedlings and younger plants are 32-36 inches away; and likely going to finish this run as started on 18/16, and we're currently keeping RH in the low 70s% with light-on temps low-mid80sF and dark temps in the high 70sF:

LZ at 14 days up:

LC at 9 days up:

LC at 8 days up, and……this one wound having a friend come along that is on its 2nd day up and likely an assumed failed LC planting in that pot from ~10 days ago (tiny chance it is a LZ):

 

[Mozzy]

Day 30 GC flowering strong and growing closer to the light by the day:

Day 18 LZ topping and bottom node removal:

Day 13 LC:

Day 12/6 LCs:

Hopefully we get some sexes on the LCs, sooner rather than later, I'd like to crank the light up a little more for the flowering 30 day GC

 

[R Wayne]

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Day 30 GC flowering strong and growing closer to the light by the day:
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Day 18 LZ topping and bottom node removal:
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Day 13 LC:
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Day 12/6 LCs:
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Hopefully we get some sexes on the LCs, sooner rather than later, I'd like to crank the light up a little more for the flowering 30 day GC

Everything is looking really nice Mozzy. Nice green tent. Do you add the airstones in the rez from day 1? If so how soon do you fill up the rez? Im thinking about experimenting with this in my next run.

 

[Mozzy]

Everything is looking really nice Mozzy. Nice green tent.

Thanks, buddy...this was the roughest start in a long time due to the age of the seeds and shenanigans with the one reg-auto strain, so we'll see

Do you add the airstones in the rez from day 1? If so how soon do you fill up the rez?

Yes from day 1, because I slowly saturate the soil and fill the res after it settles on day 1 as well; to avoid the water stagnating...never tried without because it worked the first time and I usually plant germinated seeds in the final SIPs so the water doesn’t really start getting consumed for a couple weeks, but the pump keeps the water from stagnating early on, and it is still clear water when I chop, even at 100+ days. The oxygenation seems to be loved by the roots when they get there as tap roots consistently go down to the water reservoir and take over that space for the “root-ball” which envelopes the airstone (I have to rip it out at harvest every time):

 

[Mozzy]

Day 33 GC…decided it was time to remove most of the stemmed leaves for light, airflow, and space reasons:

Day 21 LZ…took the topping and bottom node removal a few days ago in stride:

Day 16 LC…I think it may be a lady :

Day 15/9 LCs:

 

[Mozzy]

Anytime @R Wayne , thank for the reps.