Indoor Anthro's Perpetual Grow Vol 2, Organic, LED, Autos, Fun!

[Anthropolis]

Here's a couple flower / new growth closeups, aside from pistils turning wayyy too early and zero trichs, the health appears generally okay.

Oh I also took a ppm reading with some topsoil from the Skywalker (the 50/50 soil / water slush and then coffee filtered method) and it's a good solid 1050 ppm, about what my soil always is. If I do a straight water flush, I'll take runoff ppm tests too.

The more I think about these symptoms, I'm thinking we were all a little right. It's a bit of everything. I think the first remediation is should probably be a flush and a foliar feeding with a pinch of bloom nute, since some stuff is evidently locked up in the root zone.

Mid flowers:

Top cola, should be glistening!

 

[Anthropolis]

Reading and thinking out loud more, I should have micronutrients pretty well covered (like we're saying as long as it's pH available). I do add a pinch of chelated Iron to each potting, I use ample Greensand and Azomite granules and dust, and this is a bit unconventional but I sourced pure Zinc powder and I put in a tiny tiny bit when I make my soil and when potting. (I'm talking like half of a pinky fingernail amount of the Zinc powder per potting). It did kinda look like it might have been Zn def but again don't have all the symptoms. What else, hmm Gypsum rock dust, pinch of blood meal and bone meal, pinch of pure boron, pinch of seaweed powder, lots of myco and powdered Molasses... No bat guano ever. Plus the full range of General Organics GO box, micronutrients should be very well covered.

I keep coming back to the soil balance just going total fubar, with pH, and it's locking out weird things that are definitely there or should be on paper lol. The vast difference in pH between the bottom soil and middle soil has me yet a bit stumped though.

 

[trailanimal]

man, hope the restoration keeps going, new growth does look good

 

[FullDuplex]

Seems to me a classic lockout situation given the drastic changes in the pH. I see that you use the cloth grow pots, i have never used those before so i am not aware of the way that they drain, or how well. If they take a bit of time to allow access water through that could be the source of the issue. I know that you and many others have grown in them time after time but something is keeping the water in the bottom, it would explain why the soil pH is so different at the bottom. Salt buildup, nute build up, any of that could be causing the soil to drop like that.

The amounts of the natural additives cant be causing this at all or at least i dont think that they are. The amounts are so small that i cant see it being an impact. What about your water what all do you add to it before you feed them? Are you messing with the pH of the feed water at all or relying on the soil alone to keep it in check?

I would have to say that the lock out is the problem but the question is why it happened. It makes sense on the bud structure and tric production. If shes not getting what she needs to do that, it will produce but only using what the fan and other leaves have stored. Its enough to keep them alive and functioning but not enough to really produce what you want.

 

[Anthropolis]

Good points, has me thinking now more about an issue with the pots that's been bothering me. They do drain well and offer great air exchange, but, a big butt lol, they're a couple years old now and pretty crusty along the bottom. That's gotta be hard nute salts, and it doesn't scrub off. So that's not helping surely!

For water, after filtering the pH is pretty good and I just add the organic nutes and let the soil handle the balance. Works beautifully for autos, I think the extra time and energy photos need is just to demanding of the system I'd developed for autos.

I did just order new pots, the new Root Trapper II soft pots that address many of the issues with these type of fabric pots. So that's that, for the future. I'll be moving to more coco too, so I will have to babysit the pH more going forward.

Strangely, I had similar issues with my previous Skywalker Kush in a brand new 5gal fabric pot. All same symptoms, I chalked it up to no photoperiod experience and ended up culling it about this stage. This one is slightly more healthy and has some fighting power, and while it's not going to make anything stupendous, there's still enough plant and time I believe to make something resembling half-ass herb lol.

So, gonna think on it tonight... I think it's time to flush the soil and try to get to a more blank slate. Then I'll give it a day to see what the pH is then and decide if it's gonna need some up or down. It's going to kill the benies, and shock the plant, but... It's probably the only chance it has to make some herb, and it'll be a valuable learning experience. MEantime it'll be a few days of foliar feeding, good news is with the G.O. line I have more wiggle room without burning. Probly do a wee bit of Bloom, wee CalMag, and half of a rabbit fart of yucca powder, see how it takes that. Damn I hate to do a foliar during bloom, but it's gonna need food while I blank the soil and let it rest a day.

I'm still not fully 100% confident in exactly what def it is or exactly what caused it. It kinda looks like Manganese, kinda like N even, kinda like P. But I feel it's a tiny bit of a few factors that added up (strain needs, old pots, soil balance went to hell [nutes, water, unicorns? lol], photo inexperience lol, ect, and frankly the def isn't life threatening, but it's very obviously bud threatening hahaa! There's a new term, bud-threatening deficiency hah!

 

[Anthropolis]

Okay, mega flushed the Skywalker and the Tangerine Dream. Gave them a light foliar feeding, have the fans on high, LEDs off. Still have about 120w of soft white CFL in there to give enough light for a bit of energy and to maintain the cycle without burning the foliar. Gonna let them chill out for a day and then take readings. Then we'll see where things are at and if we need to adjust pH. Then, if all is going well, reinstate normal feeding and pray for the best.

 

[Anthropolis]

Skywalker Kush isn't looking any worse, it's still a little droopy from the flushing, and the soil is still mega wet, but there's a good bit of brand new growth and pistils!

I had given them all a serious organic AACT tea a couple days before deciding it needed an emergency flush, and it was even looking improved then with that. Also is responding well to the foliar feeding. LEDs still off for awhile today as I gave it it's third foliar, so it's getting stretchy in parts, but I can afford that just fine.

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Tangerine Dream looking mildly improved, it's been getting foliars too. Not any worse for sure, but also not a ton of fresh growth. I think this one is just going to make whatever it makes and that's it.

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The Critical Super Silver Haze is just fantastic, I thought it was finishing up, and it would be much earlier because of the Critical genetics, but now it's loved the AACT tea and foliars and is really cranking up mass and some fresh flowers!

 

[Anthropolis]

Got things scrubbed up and down yester, fresh and so clean clean.

Just a few boredom shots from feeding time. Skywalker Kush cola looking better, it's on the upswing I think.

Crit SSH short n getting fatter! Just keeps throwing out tons of fresh flowers right when I thought it was wrapping up! They do that sometimes, it'll plateau for a few days and make ya think it's ready to finish, then boom with a spurt.

 

[Anthropolis]

Finally doing fine, couple days after the super flush, I watered in some dolomite lime water to further balance the pH. The Crit SSH didn't like that much lol, but oh well, her flowers still looking the best!

Critical Super Silver Haze, a lil burnt now from the dolomite water lol. I can't win with these photoperiods haha.

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The Skywalker Kush is much improved! Still been a humongous waste of time, money, electricity, and resources, but whatever.

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Barney's Farm Tangerine Dream is coming along, making loads of crystal trichomes!

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[Anthropolis]

Trichome inspection on the Delicious Seeds brand Critical Super Silver Haze. Looking almost ready trichome wise, but she's doing a final throw of fresh pistils and mass.