Indoor 1sr Grow! Auto-Bomb Fem Organic Hydro stealth closet.

[mmstickybuds]

Damn that might be my problem. I have burned a few and I have no sex shown on any of y Auto's except my Biggest Auto Northern Light girl who is like 48 days.
And even that's just barely showing.
Yea maybe the Nutes before they showed sex was a bad idea. I also noticed that the kind of light you pop the seeds under affect the sex way easier than Photo's. I know that for next time as well.
I got 3 AA males of 10 seeds and only like 6 that popped so now Maybe 3 females.... I think...
Hope your run turns out better than mine bro!

Hey Z3RO thanks for stopping by...
Yeah I figure this must be the cause to a few of the issues I have had, no burn til now but the leaves were always a bit weirdly shaped. I also figure I got the some problem as you, as I say mine hasn't started flowering but I figure if she still hasn't in a week or so I may switch to 12/12 until she does.
Good luck I hope your remainders are ladies! I'm sure they will be!

 

[Rebel]

She is 26 days old today and no signs of budding yet

Great news she's doing well! Some autos take longer to "auto" than others. For instance my Snow Ryder took nearly 33-35 days. But, my Himalayan Blue Diesels showed as early as 17 days. I'd give it a few more days and keep a close eye. Sure a shit, you see 1 the next day you will see many. It happens that fast.

One thing is also very important you have to remember Autos are in a world of their own. You can't think of Photos when you think of Pot Nutes... And some Hydro places have still never even heard of Autos... Because everything happens so quickly, like I mentioned before, you have a smaller window to get dialed into Autos and the way they eat. So you have to keep in mind when shops and manufacturer's offer "feeding shedules" or "guarantees" you have to keep in mind... "These don't apply to Autos". You always have to cut things down to start and no company yet that I know of offers any feeding schedule for autos to date. So thats my honest opinion and from the mistakes that I've made from "feeding early" and "going full blast" with nutrients. Others may disagree with me but I know most probably would agree no nutes til they show sex. In my current grow I had enough nutes and good myco in the soil my HBD didn't need food til almost a week AFTER flowering! And they still weren't showing any hunger signs... I just knew it was time.

I look forward to your picture updates! Good to hear your temps aren't too crazy with that ballast.

 

[mmstickybuds]

Oh that's also good to hear. I thought it was a pretty strict 3 weeks and should be flowering. I don't mind as I say just want her to be happy and healthy. Since I flushed the roots she is looking perfect. She is also growing really quickly and has such a strong scent, I can smell her very slightly even outside the closet. Yeah I think the difference with my hydro store is they honestly don't supply anything for marijuana growers, it's all based on systems and nutes for vegetables, fruit and flowers. To be honest I'm just lucky to be able to get any of the stuff they sell in SA, if they didn't exist I wouldn't have anything. The difficulty has come in with the info they tell me and me trying to adapt that to what I find online to not only weed but also autoflowering plants. Anyway yeah anyone can say anything but I can see what you have said to be true, the results are in the health of my plant. Something else that has been bothering me now is, I had also read on cannabis culture that HPS grow better from start to finish that MH, so I changed to my HPS bulb when she was about a week old, and I see it seems to have made her very bushy. I think she is going to be awesome and yield pretty well but I want to know, is it better to start them on MH to encourage height and then swop to HPS for flowering and density? Also, if so, then how can you do a perpetual grow in the same space? I'm happy so far with the HPS, as it's temps are pretty low and she has responded well to it so far. Also, sorry to keep asking questions, but you say she didn't show hunger signs even a week after flowering...what are those hunger signs? I just want to make sure I know for when it happens Thanks again for your help, especially since it helped so much and she lives to grow another day! I will do a pic update pretty soon, waiting for a bit more growth... Have u got a current grow WVR? Thanks again man!

 

[Rebel]

Oh yes brother! I have a whole lot going on right now! Here's a link to my grows...

My Auto Grow of Himalayan Blue Diesel, Assassin, & NYLD x PE. I just harvested an Assassin yesterday and the NYLPD tonight! This is my best grow so far -- my 3rd ever.
http://www.autoflower.org/f5/ffof-happy-frog-seedling-comparison-grow-2119-36.html

My Photo Grow of Burmese Kush (BuKu)
http://www.autoflower.org/f24/burmese-kush-orange-krush-2992-5.html

I have used my 150W HPS to start then upgraded to a 400W HPS and (2) 4' T5 Floros for side, supplemental lighting. I love my HPS and don't plan to change it. I run them 20 on 4 off and also have started my photos under it and will take them out for 12 hours a day when I want them to flower. I have had no issues and would highly recommend HPS even though I may get an arguement there... As long as you have them high enough but close enough for good light penetration you"ll be good. Only reason I wouldn't recommend MH is because Autos mostly Flower. They do "Veg" for a few weeks but personally I get great results just using the HPS. I also have no problems starting seedlings and plants that are finishing in the same space and same light cycle...

All the information I pass on is from personal experience & hours/days of research. If there is something I don't know I'll look it up or as a Master. I'll never give you false or misleading information. No one here will! We are all here for the same goal man! Check out my grows & let me know what you think! :smoke:

Forgot to answer your question on hunger signs. Most usually you will see a lack of Nitrogen (N) sign which is an overall yellowing or like a fading of green into light yellow starting with the lower (first set) leaves/nodes. Most usually for me anyway... Some early deficiencis early on can come from your growing medium too or lack of feeding when they start to flower and need it most...

Because every situation is different best place to start is the thread/link below in my signature... It's a good starting point to research your specific problem or you can go straight to the Cannibis Infirmary and post pics of your problem for a quick more specific response from a Master... John Mondello is a very experienced Mod and he cruises the infirmary pretty regularly! However any Mod is MORE than willing and capable to help you. There's a thread in the Newbie section that lists all the moderators.

 

[mmstickybuds]

Rad, I have subbed to your current grow..this is also actually the first forum I have ever joined so that will explain my lack of general logic on here sometimes...
Thanks for the info on the infirmary, of course this makes perfect sense and I will go there immediately if I experience any further issues. I did use the self diagnosis page but was still unsure of what the issue could have been...
Cool I think your info on lights makes sense, I have read a ton of stuff on here and it's always I think based on preference...the HPS is working really well so I have no problems with that, would much rather use one light anyway if I can. It is only 250w but I will only have two plants so I imagine it should be cool.
Your last harvest was amazing man! I can't wait for mine, going to be such a great feeling to never have to pay for my bud again.
Anyway thanks again and great to have such helpful people to guide us noobs in this extremely specific world of cannabis cultivation.

 

[mmstickybuds]

I just thought I should check this out, should I use molasses before the plant shows sex? Does that count as a nutrient? I don't want to seem over eager to feed my plant but for some reason I feel molasses is something I would like to give her as soon as I can. Also, what molasses should I use? Can I use a pure organic molasses with no additives or does it have to be a specific kind?
Thanks!

 

[AndyBotwin]

I just thought I should check this out, should I use molasses before the plant shows sex? Does that count as a nutrient? I don't want to seem over eager to feed my plant but for some reason I feel molasses is something I would like to give her as soon as I can. Also, what molasses should I use? Can I use a pure organic molasses with no additives or does it have to be a specific kind?
Thanks!

Most people only feed molasses later during flower, but you could give it earlier. Unsulphered blackstrap molasses is recommended, and if you get it from a health food store it'll often have some other good nutrients in it. I gave 1 to 2 tablespoons per gallon every other watering during my last grow, but that was for mature plants with fully developed roots. You'd probably want to go with less since it's so early. Are you feeding veg nutes?

 

[Rebel]

You remind me of myself bro... I had wondered the same thing. Honestly I researched that one too and it lead to to be against it... I would only "feed" my seedlings Myco and once you get to the point of Molasses your Myco will be ready to munch, munch, munch, munch, munch. LOL BTW Myco feed on Molasses... But, it's good to give the Myco a few weeks to get your roots all established well before the molasses. You could lead to nute lockout giving it to your seedlings... Rare... But still a possibility.

The only kind I've used and see recommended is Black Strap Unsulphured Molasses. Here's the kind I use...

I know you probably don't have that specific brand there in SA however, any equivalent brand would do the exact same job!!

 

[mmstickybuds]

Most people only feed molasses later during flower, but you could give it earlier. Unsulphered blackstrap molasses is recommended, and if you get it from a health food store it'll often have some other good nutrients in it. I gave 1 to 2 tablespoons per gallon every other watering during my last grow, but that was for mature plants with fully developed roots. You'd probably want to go with less since it's so early. Are you feeding veg nutes?

Cool thanks Andy!
I will wait I think, but thanks for the info. Yeah as far as I knew it was for later, thought it was actually only like the last week, but caught a thread last night of another new grower and people were recommending him to use it and he was only at about 8 days or something.
No I am not feeding veg nutes, as I had some nute burn and I think it was from overfeeding, as I started with Kelpak which is for germ/transplant, so after that whole situation I was advised to flush the roots and not feed her until she flowers. I imagine she is only a few days away though...

 

[mmstickybuds]

You remind me of myself bro... I had wondered the same thing. Honestly I researched that one too and it lead to to be against it... I would only "feed" my seedlings Myco and once you get to the point of Molasses your Myco will be ready to munch, munch, munch, munch, munch. LOL BTW Myco feed on Molasses... But, it's good to give the Myco a few weeks to get your roots all established well before the molasses. You could lead to nute lockout giving it to your seedlings... Rare... But still a possibility.

The only kind I've used and see recommended is Black Strap Unsulphured Molasses. Here's the kind I use... View attachment 31060

I know you probably don't have that specific brand there in SA however, any equivalent brand would do the exact same job!!

Lol haha well that's a good sign, you have grown some awesome grows! The NYLDxPE looks amazing, all your grows do but clear why that's your best so far! What was your yield? Or I suppose it probably isn't cured yet?

I will try find Myco or something similar...if not I will just grow without and maybe I can get some online. Cool well as I said to Andy, I will wait I think and when she starts flowering will be getting all her nutes and sweets

So after two days since I flushed her she was looking perfect, but now I have noticed on her newest big fan leaves she has a slight discolouring on the very tip of only one or two segments of two of the leaves. It seems like a much milder version of what was happening last week. The burn has gotten no worse and she is growing like crazy so my thinking was maybe it was 'left-over' nutes, as it doesn't seem like it will get as bad as the earlier burn.
Anyway I will try take pics later or tomorrow, I want it to be a week since the last pics I posted, as I looked at those pics last night and she has more than doubled in size!:booya:

I'm pretty happy about that because she was so small a week ago and I really want her to shoot up a little before she starts budding, so even if she started now I would be happy with her size.
Anyway, once again..I would be very appreciative of any help, and thanks again WVR...starting to get everything sorted finally!