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Indoor 1sr Grow! Auto-Bomb Fem Organic Hydro stealth closet.
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:buds: Hell Yeah bro I knew it! Sweet! I'm VERY excited for you!! Now the real fun begins! Great your shop has a Myco product! Like I said any should do ya good. You will love the results for sure! Mossy is "Wiz". You will see him around the forum and he's also a Mod. I don't believe Mossy worked the feminized yet but I could be wrong... As far as I have read the JEMS are still in the early stages meaning I think he's just working with regular seeds at this point. If you scroll up to the top left of this page and see the "e-shop" link you can go in there and check out what Mossy has right now and also La Buena Hiebera (If I spelled it right) is also a respected member and he sells his strains here as well. I haven't been by the e-shop lately so I don't know if there's any other strains up for sale right now but that's pretty much the deal with those.
Your Auto Bomb review will be helpful even though you may not think so... As this really is my 3rd/4th grow (I've been growing continuously since the 1st run in end of May) I was like you... Thinking I wasn't up to par but believe me you will get dialed in soon. The best advice I can give you is go with what you have and what you like. Lights, strains, soil, hydro, etc... And what you like will work for you. No one grows the same, we all have different styles, products we use, lights, etc but it all works. I can't sit here and nay say everything that I don't do because it may not work for me but may get insane results for someone else. Once you find your rhythm you will get more relaxed and confident in what you're doing and it will become natural. Of course I'm no master... Still working things out. BUT I have become aware of what I'm doing and how I can work my space.
Your baby girl looks green, lush, and happy. She will be the start of many!! Great job bro!
Your Auto Bomb review will be helpful even though you may not think so... As this really is my 3rd/4th grow (I've been growing continuously since the 1st run in end of May) I was like you... Thinking I wasn't up to par but believe me you will get dialed in soon. The best advice I can give you is go with what you have and what you like. Lights, strains, soil, hydro, etc... And what you like will work for you. No one grows the same, we all have different styles, products we use, lights, etc but it all works. I can't sit here and nay say everything that I don't do because it may not work for me but may get insane results for someone else. Once you find your rhythm you will get more relaxed and confident in what you're doing and it will become natural. Of course I'm no master... Still working things out. BUT I have become aware of what I'm doing and how I can work my space.
Your baby girl looks green, lush, and happy. She will be the start of many!! Great job bro!
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anyway will re-write in a while... thanks a lot though!
anyway will re-write in a while... thanks a lot though!
:buds: Hell Yeah bro I knew it! Sweet! I'm VERY excited for you!! Now the real fun begins! Great your shop has a Myco product! Like I said any should do ya good. You will love the results for sure! Mossy is "Wiz". You will see him around the forum and he's also a Mod. I don't believe Mossy worked the feminized yet but I could be wrong... As far as I have read the JEMS are still in the early stages meaning I think he's just working with regular seeds at this point. If you scroll up to the top left of this page and see the "e-shop" link you can go in there and check out what Mossy has right now and also La Buena Hiebera (If I spelled it right) is also a respected member and he sells his strains here as well. I haven't been by the e-shop lately so I don't know if there's any other strains up for sale right now but that's pretty much the deal with those.
Your Auto Bomb review will be helpful even though you may not think so... As this really is my 3rd/4th grow (I've been growing continuously since the 1st run in end of May) I was like you... Thinking I wasn't up to par but believe me you will get dialed in soon. The best advice I can give you is go with what you have and what you like. Lights, strains, soil, hydro, etc... And what you like will work for you. No one grows the same, we all have different styles, products we use, lights, etc but it all works. I can't sit here and nay say everything that I don't do because it may not work for me but may get insane results for someone else. Once you find your rhythm you will get more relaxed and confident in what you're doing and it will become natural. Of course I'm no master... Still working things out. BUT I have become aware of what I'm doing and how I can work my space.
Your baby girl looks green, lush, and happy. She will be the start of many!! Great job bro!
Thanks for all the kind words man! I really do appreciate it!
Makes sense that Wiz is Mossy as I was looking through the store a few days ago and was very impressed by Wiz's strains, they really look amazing! Especially the Purple-Ak. I would buy the crap outta that if I could use reg seeds at this stage, but just doesn't seem to make financial sense right now..as I can only grow two plants at a time I need to make sure they are fem.
Cool I am feeling more confident about my grow, though it will take a few I know, after I harvest I think I will feel way better about it all. Also the nute burn probably traumatised me more than the plant
Anyway thanks again man, really rad to have someone that is so helpful to get me through this grow!
Apparently my seeds have arrived in South Africa and hopefully should come to me by Monday maybe Tuesday, so I am not gonna germ another Auto Bomb, as I really want to get a PE or Blueberry going...my Vape will also arrive on Monday, these forums have inspired me to finally get it, never even used one but I know it will improve my smoke and lessen the amount I use.
Thanks for the compliment, I am very happy with how she is growing. Today I noticed, for the first time in her life she looked a little droopy while the lights were on, usually she stand up really tall reaching for the light. I did move the light closer last night though so it's about 15 inches from her top. I expected her to be standing up more than usual so was surprised to see her like that...I hope i didn't jump the gun but I thought it was most likely the fact that she is now flowering and hasn't had food..she actually started showing sex a week ago I would say but I thought the first single pistil was a fluke or something...
So I made a mix of Bio-Grow 2m/L, Bio-Bloom 2m/L, Fish-Mix 2m/L, and 1ml of Fulvic Acid. I have since learned, through Muddy that Stitch recommends using veg nutrients until 6 weeks, as it helps the plant grow as it gets loads of its height when it starts flowering. So I will monitor her carefully and next feeding I will lose the bloom until she gets a little older, and then introduce it to her. I am thinking I will just use Fish Mix and Bio-grow, fulvic acid and then get the Myco and probably some molasses in the next few days.
Does this sound right to you? As I say I will monitor her but I think this seems like a good route to take with my Nutes...
If Muddy gave you advice I would follow what he says... He is a Master. But from what you tell me that sounds good! You most definitely can start to feed her... I never knew Stitch recommended grow nutes until week 6... I have been growing Stitch's strains for a few months now... Assassin and Himalayan Blue Diesel... They are great strains and great yielders (to me they have)... So that's news to me and I might dig a little more on the subject and consider doing that with mine. I use the Bloom nutes right from the first feeding. Don't forget they are actually "blooming" now and they need the extra P-K... I made that very mistake and caused my current AA to have a nasty deficiency... She's gorgeous and her buds are too and trichs are getting milky but her fan leaves look like SHIT.
Seems like you know what you need to do and you know you always got me to help and Muddy I'm sure as other Mods. Great to hear about your seeds mate! I love me some Blueberry... Haven't had any since 2004... It's been long enough... I need to grow some!!
Don't stress too much about your plant being droopy... Mine go through changes all day long... If I just watered they may be droopy for an hour or so but after that they get all perky and have their fan leaves pointing up like hands out stretched to their sun... My HPS LOL Just be careful not to overwater and you'll be good!
By the way... Like we were talking about days ago when you were worried she wasn't going to Auto... My very last Assassin from this current run JUST popped a single pistil this past night! So exactly on day 30 she showed. My HBD's showed at day 17 so again depends on the strain and plant really. They all have a mind of their own! :smokebuds:
Seems like you know what you need to do and you know you always got me to help and Muddy I'm sure as other Mods. Great to hear about your seeds mate! I love me some Blueberry... Haven't had any since 2004... It's been long enough... I need to grow some!!
Don't stress too much about your plant being droopy... Mine go through changes all day long... If I just watered they may be droopy for an hour or so but after that they get all perky and have their fan leaves pointing up like hands out stretched to their sun... My HPS LOL Just be careful not to overwater and you'll be good!
By the way... Like we were talking about days ago when you were worried she wasn't going to Auto... My very last Assassin from this current run JUST popped a single pistil this past night! So exactly on day 30 she showed. My HBD's showed at day 17 so again depends on the strain and plant really. They all have a mind of their own! :smokebuds:
Rad great to hear your last Assassin turned out to be fem! Good work I checked your thread and those are such great ratios it makes me re-consider only growing fem lol!
Actually the advice wasn't to me, I was about to post the question about nutes and saw a very similar thread, and Muddy had just put that info there to help the guy, it's a recent indoor thread so check what he said regarding Stitchs strains, it may only apply to Mi5 and I think Onyx...but seemed like general Auto info so though it made sense. I do however agree with what you said and thought the same, she is in effect still flowering so the bloom surely should only help? I will maybe use less of it, monitor her and see how that goes, I def agree though and will still feed her some. I also figured the droopiness were possibly the first signs of heat-stress, as it's literally the first time I have seen such a difference, and the very day after I move the light...so moved it back up and I think it already seems to have helped.
The good thing about the Autopot system is that you can't really overwater, well I assume obviously you can but it continuosly allows only a certain amount of water at the bottom of the pots..only issue is if I give her too much water when feeding...though I also have an empty pot there with Hydroton that helps absorb excess water too...so should be okay!
I think I will get some of that HBD next time I buy, based on your grows and I love how early they start...you really should get some Blueberry! I have smoked tons since I moved back here from London, okay quality but you never know what the growers use or do to the bud, as most is run by syndicates here. Luckily my BB guy grows out in the African fields but still not as good as I know it should be..hence me doing all this lol.
Thanks for the advice man and glad you got yet another little lady!
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Ahh it wasn't in the indoor forums, here you go!
http://www.autoflower.org/f34/organic-feeding-schedule-rough-planning-2850.html
Actually the advice wasn't to me, I was about to post the question about nutes and saw a very similar thread, and Muddy had just put that info there to help the guy, it's a recent indoor thread so check what he said regarding Stitchs strains, it may only apply to Mi5 and I think Onyx...but seemed like general Auto info so though it made sense. I do however agree with what you said and thought the same, she is in effect still flowering so the bloom surely should only help? I will maybe use less of it, monitor her and see how that goes, I def agree though and will still feed her some. I also figured the droopiness were possibly the first signs of heat-stress, as it's literally the first time I have seen such a difference, and the very day after I move the light...so moved it back up and I think it already seems to have helped.
The good thing about the Autopot system is that you can't really overwater, well I assume obviously you can but it continuosly allows only a certain amount of water at the bottom of the pots..only issue is if I give her too much water when feeding...though I also have an empty pot there with Hydroton that helps absorb excess water too...so should be okay!
I think I will get some of that HBD next time I buy, based on your grows and I love how early they start...you really should get some Blueberry! I have smoked tons since I moved back here from London, okay quality but you never know what the growers use or do to the bud, as most is run by syndicates here. Luckily my BB guy grows out in the African fields but still not as good as I know it should be..hence me doing all this lol.
Thanks for the advice man and glad you got yet another little lady!
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Ahh it wasn't in the indoor forums, here you go!
http://www.autoflower.org/f34/organic-feeding-schedule-rough-planning-2850.html
Thanks man! I didn't know you moved your light. I must have missed that, sorry. Yeah good move moving it back up. I keep mine about a foot and a half above them (400W HPS) and with the HID as long as you get good light penetration you're good. You should be good to go now! Yeah I'll check that link and see what's up with that.
Yeah the bloom should go in now for sure. You want some N in the first few feedings as I've seen from mine when they get that light yellow look on the first set of leaves... So I think the grow thing til week 6 might be just fine... You do want the best P-K numbers you can get right now... I believe mine run like 13-22 or something like that, I forget my exact P number but my K is 22. Just for your personal reference. any thing with double digit P-K numbers will benefit the plants at this stage now... Good job bro!
As far as the HBD they are the fastest sexing strain I've grown so far. I wrote Stitch and complimented him but he never replied but, I'm sure he's wicked busy!! They are insane to watch grow for sure! Can't wait until yours start to take off! It will be good times my brother! :buds:
Yeah the bloom should go in now for sure. You want some N in the first few feedings as I've seen from mine when they get that light yellow look on the first set of leaves... So I think the grow thing til week 6 might be just fine... You do want the best P-K numbers you can get right now... I believe mine run like 13-22 or something like that, I forget my exact P number but my K is 22. Just for your personal reference. any thing with double digit P-K numbers will benefit the plants at this stage now... Good job bro!
As far as the HBD they are the fastest sexing strain I've grown so far. I wrote Stitch and complimented him but he never replied but, I'm sure he's wicked busy!! They are insane to watch grow for sure! Can't wait until yours start to take off! It will be good times my brother! :buds:
Yeah the light seemed to be the issue as when it went on after her 4 hours sleep she stood up again, but after 20 hours under the light before it went off today she was looking a little limp again...I was thinking maybe it's her showing she wants 18 hours rather than 20?
That or maybe just getting used to the Nutes I have noticed the newer leaves have a very slight yellow tint to them...as for the Nutrient numbers, I don't really understand them yet...haven't done a lot of research into it either..a bit bad I know but the numbers on my BioBizz Nutrients are all way lower than 22, or 13, they are all around 2.5, 3, or 6. As I say I'm not sure what these mean but these Nutes are the only organic ones they have at this store, and have seen people around here use the brand...I hope these aren't too weak or something?
I will try the HBD, as I say...sounds awesome but gotta wait a while and save some cash, yeah Stitch must be pretty damn busy cooking up strains and testin em out all day...
The kinda job I want!
My little lady is doing good, other than the droopiness the new growth is looking great (also the light just went on and already has perked up) and there are lots of pistils shooting out the apex...looks like her main bud is starting! Was expecting a bit more veg growth but I'm just gonna let her do her thing...Anyway do you think she may need less light? Or should she just flourish from 20 hours?
That or maybe just getting used to the Nutes I have noticed the newer leaves have a very slight yellow tint to them...as for the Nutrient numbers, I don't really understand them yet...haven't done a lot of research into it either..a bit bad I know but the numbers on my BioBizz Nutrients are all way lower than 22, or 13, they are all around 2.5, 3, or 6. As I say I'm not sure what these mean but these Nutes are the only organic ones they have at this store, and have seen people around here use the brand...I hope these aren't too weak or something?
I will try the HBD, as I say...sounds awesome but gotta wait a while and save some cash, yeah Stitch must be pretty damn busy cooking up strains and testin em out all day...
The kinda job I want!My little lady is doing good, other than the droopiness the new growth is looking great (also the light just went on and already has perked up) and there are lots of pistils shooting out the apex...looks like her main bud is starting! Was expecting a bit more veg growth but I'm just gonna let her do her thing...Anyway do you think she may need less light? Or should she just flourish from 20 hours?
Personally I would stay at 20/4... I started my first grow at 18/6 and wasn't getting what I expected... So I started on 20/4 and haven't used any other light regimen. How far is your light from the top of your plant? You may need to raise it... I'm sorry bro I forget... What kind of light are you using? I do remember it's pretty strong because of the ballast heat issue... I have to look back at page one...
As far as BioBizz I don't know anything about it... I think Agito uses BioBizz if I remember correctly. Maybe you should start a thread in the Fertilizer/Soil section and ask who uses BioBizz to give you some guidance...
Quick info on N-P-K...
Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium (N-P-K) these are Macro Nutrients or the Main nutes that MJ needs to thrive. Cal/Mag etc are Micro Nutes. Which they also need but generally in smaller numbers. You want more N in veg/beginning of life. You want more P-K during flowering and lower N if any at all. They need more P-K for flower/bud production and the higher the numbers generally the better but you don't want to overdo it. Generally veg nutes are higher in N. (3-1-3) Bloom nutes higher in P-K (0-13-14). Those are just examples. Fox Farms numbers are higher than those I've seen but most people don't give full doses because of chances of Nute Burn. You may want to consider starting a thread like I mentioned and seek out other BioBizz users. Best advice comes from experience and I don't want to lead you astray from your current progress. I would feel terrilbe giving you false advice.
As far as BioBizz I don't know anything about it... I think Agito uses BioBizz if I remember correctly. Maybe you should start a thread in the Fertilizer/Soil section and ask who uses BioBizz to give you some guidance...
Quick info on N-P-K...
Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium (N-P-K) these are Macro Nutrients or the Main nutes that MJ needs to thrive. Cal/Mag etc are Micro Nutes. Which they also need but generally in smaller numbers. You want more N in veg/beginning of life. You want more P-K during flowering and lower N if any at all. They need more P-K for flower/bud production and the higher the numbers generally the better but you don't want to overdo it. Generally veg nutes are higher in N. (3-1-3) Bloom nutes higher in P-K (0-13-14). Those are just examples. Fox Farms numbers are higher than those I've seen but most people don't give full doses because of chances of Nute Burn. You may want to consider starting a thread like I mentioned and seek out other BioBizz users. Best advice comes from experience and I don't want to lead you astray from your current progress. I would feel terrilbe giving you false advice.
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Cool, I must say I agree on my experience of her growth so far. She seems to have always lapped up the light like crazy and seems like it would be better to actually turn to 24 if any change. I'm tryna save on electricity though and most people prefer 20 from what I have read. The light is about 25-30 Inches away, seems pretty far...I can move it up though, for example when I woke up she is still reaching but less so than after 4 hours of light. Maybe she just gets hot flushes? Menopause? lol
But yeah if she does seem to droop by the end of the day I will try move it up. I am also going to pick up my other supplies today, like the Myco and Molasses. Possibly a carbon filter, didn't think I would need one but when I got up this morning my whole lounge smelled like sweet herb.Anyway thanks for the breakdown, I had some idea but that's super helpful! I also appreciate you pointing me in the right direction, also something I was thinking as my system is kind of specific so would make sense to start a thread just explaining my Nutrient situation. Thanks a lot dude, again I really appreciate it, and will reward you with some pics of the buds you have helped me to develop!:booya:
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