Watts per sq ft. How many watts in your grow space

[MrOldBoy]

28.76 x 53” = 10.58 sq feet and ES 180 LED by green sunshine co. figures out to 17 watts square foot ..... first grow so no yield numbers to share.

 

[Dabber]

I wish that was my dog. He’s probably worth close to a $1,000,000. Pups like the one he is carrying can easily bring $50k.
Now back to the lights. I look at many pics of bud growing and ask myself, “why my bud not look like that.?” Simply put.... it’s not growing in the sun DA! I do recall having bud like that when I grew using a hps. That was before the mars 5watts came out. I invested in a 700 and 1200 model. My bud got worse. I got the occasional that looks ok. But 1 out of 5 isn’t worth it. Thank god for @BigSm0 . My bud didn’t change. I still got my usual crappy bud, but now I’m getting 2 beauties and 3 “wtf”! I left Gh alone and switch to megacrop. Now My usual 40g turned into 70g. I’m thinking I hit the jackpot. “Hey, what gives?” I see people pulling 70g - 150g all day long. I’m talking each plant. Out of 5 they started at 40g , 68g, 96g, up to 152g. Then I noticed a pattern. The ones that finished quicker has less on it. They were small. So I associated the smallness to lesser yields like everyone else. But each time I did this , it was always the same pattern. It didn’t matter the strains, the nutrients, or the lights. Same thing.... and what not, I was doing the same thing each grow. I started to invest more thinking that would solve my issues. It didn’t. I purchased the most expensive lights, the best soil, the nicest grow container, even buy the biggest strains, and all of this, still could not make up for the fact that “I’m a crappy grower” . My finished product always told me one thing, “ I grow like crap”. The question that I asked my self is , why am I still getting crappy bud when I’m doing what everyone else is doing?. So you know what I’m getting at right. I stopped following the masses, and started to pay attention to the guys that got those big yields. My shit didn’t get any better, but I did get more of it. I’m getting 5-6 + zips a plant and now I really feel like I’m a “Grower”. I’m passing out airy, nitro toxic, unflushed bud and getting offended when the hood call my shit home grown. New question, why my shit looks like that. The first thought was the easy way out. I must need some of that crap everyone else is using. I go buy every bottle that someone said will grow good weed and make it prettier. Not one made much of a difference. They actually seem to make things worse. I say to myself, Something has to change. Now I wAtching @Dabber show his stuff, @Mizzo81 is doing well. And many others. Each gave me a different answer. And neither answer seem to fix my problem. Damn I have problems... being a troubleshooter by nature, I know when there is a problem, you fix it. But first you have to know what the “problem” is to fix it. I went one by one problem, by problem trying to fix what I thought I had going wrong. More lights,”cobs” jacks nutrients, rain science grow bags (a must have). Hell I even jumped on the greengene’s/ jacks 321 ban wagon. Hell I even got me some Gravitron, which I never used. I tried it on one that I left a few buds on just to see what it do.. please don’t put that on your plants. Let’s try the kelp... we all know what too much k does, so that’s a no no as well. Jacks 321 got me across the finish line, but it still wasn’t much of an improvement. Then it came to me. Growers didn’t have all of this stuff back then so it’s truely not necessary. Plus it causes more problems than it fixed. But I new greengene was on to something. My bud may not have looked like his, but I’m getting there. Frustation was really setting in and I’m about to call it quits. My wife tell me to hit this... I refuse. It’s not Christmas/ thanksgiving, or my birthday. I tell her what the hell.. give it here. I had an instant revelation. If you don’t believe anything else when it comes to cannabis you better believe this. You cannot grow bud, if you don’t smoke bud. I just can’t be done. The cannabis plant moves so subtly, and speaks so softly, the only way that you can communicate with it is to get on its levels. I had to learn to speak cannabis. The only way to do that is to be high. Become one with your plants and they will begin to talk to you. It’s up to you if you listen. Now I remember how many times my plants told me something and I simply ignored them. I had the mentality of “ why would I listen to a dumb plant, when greengene and many others are all over the internet showing me how it’s done. This is the biggest mistake that a grower can make. Always listen to your ladies, they know best. Do what they want , when they want it. They know what they like, and how they like it. Growing Cannabis isnt for stubborn or lazy people. You have to have a lot of patience. If you are in a hurry all the time, you may as well buy your weed, Cause your grows will not be worth a flip. “Learn, Learn, learn. Learn all you can about cannabis, not just what you read on these forums. FYI, humans learn from experience. So get as much experience as you can. The most you can learn from copying someone else is what not to do. By now you should already know every thing not to do. So why are you still doing that??? Cause you are either being stubborn or lazy or both. And that’s breaking the rules of cannabis and your grow is already fuxked before you get started. Now if you didn’t finish reading this post , you broke 2 rules. That’s patience and learning. Here is something for me taking up so much of your time. Look st plants grown outside in the sun and compare them to your indoor plants. There will be a huge difference in structure. Telling you why would be too easy and you will learn nothing. Now compare the outdoor plants to ones grown under cobs or hps These plants will be very similar in structure. Proving hps and cobs both have what it takes to produce nature quality bud. It’s proven that Cobs just do it more efficiently. Just like bigsm0 say they do. No disrespect @Dabber , but there is more to it than watts / sqft. Those are auto cob siting over your lady’s and they are working like a mofo. If that was all it takes everyone would have great bud. ☯ Is your next clue. Nature is a complete balance. Your ladies will tell you if they are balanced or not. It will show in your grow. Pics are for reference. The last pic is mine to show similarity. All this thinking got me ready to smoke. Might I suggest smoking one with your girl. She just might tell you something special in return ✌ ☮ View attachment 1158546View attachment 1158545View attachment 1158547

way over this stoners head . My formula for growing and getting awesome results is simple autocobs from @BigSm0 and Mega Crop from @Greenleaf Nutrients. Never grew under the sun kinda scared to I've had 8 ft autos indoors under autocobs

 

[Blu_tri]

You grow

way over this stoners head . My formula for growing and getting awesome results is simple autocobs from @BigSm0 and Mega Crop from @Greenleaf Nutrients. Never grew under the sun kinda scared to I've had 8 ft autos indoors under autocobs

some beautiful plants. I have been lurking for years. Your formula definitely works. I enjoy following your grows. You motivate me to the fullest. Every time I turn out crap, I know I can turn to the bud porn that afn is adorned with, to motivate me to do better. You have my respect @Dabber.

 

[Dabber]

You grow

some beautiful plants. I have been lurking for years. Your formula definitely works. I enjoy following your grows. You motivate me to the fullest. Every time I turn out crap, I know I can turn to the bud porn that afn is adorned with, to motivate me to do better. You have my respect @Dabber.

 

[jdm61]

Cannabis has been evolved, for lack of a better term, an incredible amount over the last 50 years or so. I remember 20 years ago someone saying that if there’s much effort has been put into vegetables we would have tomatoes the size of a refrigerator. That’s a bit of an exaggeration but the point is well taken. But to put that in context, the vast majority of the dog breeds that we have in the world today have been developed in the last couple of hundred years, a significant majority of them in Western Europe.

 

[jdm61]

I have a 130 W Rspec QB in a 2 x 2.5 end of a closet. Right now I’m on my third grow, a single fast berry plant this time. I am a day behind five weeks above ground and it’s already 24 inches tall and it was topped. My second grow I had two of the same plant and each one of those only got to about 19 inches at harbors. Neither of them were topped. My first crow which alternated between a couple of hours a day outside and the rest of the time under a couple of the little GE spot light LED bulbs only got about 14 inches and was not topped. Light makes a difference.

 

[GeorgeCloney]

If I had friends in Eastern Europe right now.
I'd be trading seeds.

 

[RandomTask30]

I'm running three 240w QBs (720w total) in a 10x5 (50sqft total) right now. I'm probably using ~40sqft of the tent currently, so around 18 watts per sq ft. I am successfully running 14 large Mephistos under them. However I do plan to add 1 or 2 more 240w QBs so that I can effectively maximize the entire 10x5 space.

 

[Simplicio]

I have 4 AutoCOBs in each of two 2 x 4 ft tents with completely full canopies, for about 27 watts per sq ft.

 

[GeorgeCloney]

I'm running 2 MarsHydro TS1000's (@150W each at the wall).
So in a 2x4 tent that means 37.5/Sq.Ft.
They give off about 450 PAR at 2 ft.
So my ladies are in bikinis drinking margaretas