Indoor The Return of Zamnisia Auto Caramel - A Frogster Grow

[Dichoti]

...for some reason, I read this as "Zamnesia Auto CAMEL".

 

[Frogster]

...for some reason, I read this as "Zamnesia Auto CAMEL".

Yeah..... with the amount of water/nutrient uptake, I guess this must be a "two hump" variety Bro

 

[Haze4dayz]

I'll just leave this here...

 

[okPeet]

I have power in my tent, so I am using it without batteries... I know that it will work with batteries, but not sure re rechargeable ones etc.

There is a Pulse Labs area here on AFN, I am sure someone can answer that. I'll tag them @okPeet

Hey @trailanimal,

The Pulse One should be able to run on rechargeable AA's. However, don't pop them in there yet (right now the battery life is pretty bad). We're working on improved firmware to extend battery life. Currently it's like 2-4 weeks. With the update we're working on, it will be much much longer (around a year or so).

 

[okPeet]

Yep, they look to be a good bit of kit, so far so good, this is my first grow using one, however, previously I did use other sensors and a manually calculated VPD chart.
Only obvious criticism I have at present is... I would like some add on sensors that feed info to the main unit and calculate an average maybe, as unless you purchase other complete units, there is only the one sensor in the unit and that remains static and located at wherever you place it,
Unless you have (say) four sensors spaced around and calculating a live average - then this is as good as it gets, but still pretty good !
It is very position critical and you really have to take and work on an average of conditions around the tent, especially as the plants grow, as localised conditions can vary a lot...
Maybe add on sensors are on their development list or coming @okPeet ?

Indeed that's on the roadmap! We're a small team, and we're doing our best to get some good stuff out there, but it takes us a bit longer than we'd like. Development of the app & additional sensors will definitely be speeding up soon (we're looking to get a bit more help onboard).

And @Frogster I've gotta give you some credit, this is great stuff! Love it. Going to show your posts to our team!

 

[Frogster]

.... And @Frogster I've gotta give you some credit, this is great stuff! Love it. Going to show your posts to our team!

Thank you for your kind words @okPeet, it is appreciated.

As I said when I purchased the Pulse from you (way back, when it was still on pre order), I will give an unbiased review of the Pulse and include my experience in a detailed grow journal on AFN.

To my mind, the additional sensors you plan to release will be an excellent add-on to have. Once dialed in, I am sure they will help growers considerably, enabling fine tuning over the whole grow area.

If you require "in field" testing of these additional sensor units, I would be only to happy to provide the same type of review for you, here on AFN.

Also, If you feel my review's may assist your product in any way, please feel free to use them in any promotional materials etc

Once again, Thanks, It's not often nowadays you actually purchase something that works as advertised..... Kudos to you

 

[trailanimal]

Day 29 Update

If my previous grows of this strain are anything to go by, we are now approaching the halfway mark, they are growing fast.

The weather has been crap here this last few days, cold, windy, rain and exceeding 90%Rh outside, so no chance of getting the girls out for a photo.

The way the weather is, I may not get them out of the tent till chop time.

Maybe I will need to look for a bigger tent for the next grow.

I apologise for the pic quality / colour, but they had to be taken in the tent with lights on.

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As you can see, the plants are in full stretch mode, still going for it and developing lots of bud sites.

They are about 3ft 8in tall now & still on my "grow mix of nutrients", If/when I see them slowing down a bit I will switch them to "Bloom mix".

It's all about timing (and how much grow height I have left to the top of my tent), switching to "Bloom mix" will stop the stretch, but I will try and hold off another day or two yet.

They are drinking loads - the 2 plants took almost 4.5 ltrs over the last 24 Hrs


As predicted, the plants grew through the early leaf curl and now look very healthy.

My way of thinking is - A good environment is key to good development, and I am happy with the way I have managed to dial it in for this grow.



The Pulse logger is working fine, and I am beginning to trust it more and more and use the data to fine tune stuff in.

I am aiming for a Day Temp of 26c with a 50%Rh, this gives me a good VPD of around 1.1kpa

Below are the current charts (if anyone is interested).

Period showing switch from night to day
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3 Hr Day Chart
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30 min close up view
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Holding where I want it, and the plants seem to like it, so.... Happy days.




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big girls getting bigger!
Yeah bigger tent a good idea, when you consider your on going skill development and the new XXL's coming on, bigger is better in the these circumstances

 

[trailanimal]

Hey @trailanimal,

The Pulse One should be able to run on rechargeable AA's. However, don't pop them in there yet (right now the battery life is pretty bad). We're working on improved firmware to extend battery life. Currently it's like 2-4 weeks. With the update we're working on, it will be much much longer (around a year or so).

thanks for the reply okPeet! Reason i ask is that I've found the remote digital thermometers won't send a signal with the rerchargeables.

 

[Frogster]

You know how thoughts drift when a good joint hits that spot

Well, I got to thinking..... Any environmental calculation is made on the assumption that the Data is accurate, this includes the data coming from the Rh sensor(s) / meters we all use. Most of us have at least one we use in our grow rooms

There is one very important thing to consider when using Rh sensors.

Calibration.

I am sure most of us growers (myself included) forget to / never calibrate our Rh Sensors. This really should be done every 6 months.

Do you trust the reading displayed, are you sure that's the correct humidity ? It is even more important if you use 2 or more devices. Now which one do we trust, if any ?

Fortunately there is an easy way to calibrate them. I do not take the credit for this method, I read it somewhere on the 'tinternet and saved it to my PC, I just pass it on.

Equipment required:

• some table salt
• a small plastic lid from a soda bottle, or similar
• a zip-lock bag / airtight container
• some distilled water

The science behind this test is that a wet sodium chloride (table salt) mixture will establish a relative humidity in an enclosed space of precisely 75%. By creating that environment inside a plastic bag, you can check to see how far off from 75% your meter is, and then calibrate it accordingly. Here’s how you do it:​

1: Fill the empty bottle cap about 3/4 full of salt.

2: Pour a very small amount of distilled water into the cap, to create a slurry. You don’t want all the salt to dissolve. You want it to appear grainy and gooey, like wet sand at the beach just after the surf has uncovered it. You can pour off excess water if you put too much in, or play with the water/salt mixture to get it right.

3: Place the lid inside the zip-lock bag, then place the hygrometer(s) inside the bag, display side up, near to the bottle cap. The technically “ideal” location for measurement is suspended 3 inches above the salt mixture, but that level of accuracy isn’t necessary. Placing it right next to the bottle cap is fine.

4: Seal the bag, but don’t push any air out of it. Whatever normal amount of air is naturally inside the bag as you put stuff inside is fine. Place the bag somewhere that’s not too warm — ideally around 70F — that won’t fluctuate much in temperature.

5: If you have multiple meters put them all in together. Leave the bag overnight. At a minimum, the bag should stay sealed for 6-8 hours. Ideally, 12-24 hours would be great. You want to make sure the humidity inside the bag has stabilized at 75%

6: If the meters can be adjusted do so, If not make a note on the meter of the % it is off .... i.e. if it reads 73% when it should read 75% then mark the meter +2, that way you know to add 2% to any reading you use from that meter.​

That's it.... just thought I would share.

 

[davisgirl]

Fascinating journal! New grower here, going to follow along.