Indoor Testing the eazyplug pyramid mini.

[kfigerm]

@The Iconoclast nice to see you playing around.
I'm still not as confident in my skills to do heavy experiments already. Give me some more runs with some successful "rescue"-actions, because I have to learn to "read" the plants again. Still i go too much for the math, not the "feeling".
Too much new and it's still just my second run after 10 years.
As it comes to nutes, I did treat them like i would treat a hempy (pour in and forget about it ), except with standard hydro PH 5,8. Feed every time.
Next runs i will try to cut that, because I see the runoff very high - EC 4000 (4.0) I had in the collection of runoff from the last week (~2l of 4 plants at the same NPK regime now). Interestingly the roots in the actual runoff they sit in do not burn.
So it must be possible to become more efficient. So I'll try to go in the "lacky" side next run and do a feed/water scedule next time, except in stretch, where I definitely experienced defs on the biiig Ultimate.

 

[kfigerm]

@Little-Leopard nice to watch yours. GH trio is nice, so we seem to come from the same tree-part formula mixture - except i use advanced hydroponics of holland. But I have to sort out issues with their new ratios now.
Do you go strictly after the feed schedule or do you mix to the "perfect" ratios to catch defs or boost PK without any other supplements?
I do the latter and it works like a charm in those pyramids.

 

[Little-Leopard]

@The Iconoclast nice to see you playing around.
I'm still not as confident in my skills to do heavy experiments already. Give me some more runs with some successful "rescue"-actions, because I have to learn to "read" the plants again. Still i go too much for the math, not the "feeling".
Too much new and it's still just my second run after 10 years.
As it comes to nutes, I did treat them like i would treat a hempy (pour in and forget about it ), except with standard hydro PH 5,8. Feed every time.
Next runs i will try to cut that, because I see the runoff very high - EC 4000 (4.0) I had in the collection of runoff from the last week (~2l of 4 plants at the same NPK regime now). Interestingly the roots in the actual runoff they sit in do not burn.
So it must be possible to become more efficient. So I'll try to go in the "lacky" side next run and do a feed/water scedule next time, except in stretch, where I definitely experienced defs on the biiig Ultimate.

Something I did when I was stressed about PPM and PH drift during my Aeroponic run...
The bigger the rez, the smaller the drift, the less the worry. Have a nice big 25/30 liter bucket with PH'd nutes. I pour the whole bucket over the pyramid. This way you get a serious flush and know for sure that the nutes and PH of the pyramid are equal to the bucket you mixed up. Then, check the PPM and PH of the bucket every few day or even once a week like me. It takes less than a minute to pick up the bucket and pour it over...done. I had a nice big 50 liter tote as my rez when doing my aeroponic. That baby didnt ever drift.

 

[Little-Leopard]

Thank you. I really enjoy playing with these.
I follow the basic GH Trio feed schedule. 3:2:1 early stages. 1:1:1. mid stage. 1:2:3 during flowering. I do not use any other supplements. I bought the Trio 3 pack and that's all I have.
I have not yet tried the perfect 1:1:1 ratio on Micro Grow Bloom throughout the entire grow yet.
Just so I understand you correctly, are you saying you did the perfect equal 1:1:1 ratio on Micro Grow Bloom throughout your entire previous grows on your pyramids? I've been tempted to try this as to "standardize" my next grow of 9 pyramids. Having one huge bucket of the same mix start to finish would be great.
Also, is there a reason you switched from GH to Holland?
Have you kept your PH at 5.8 throughout your previous pyramid grows? I've been at 5.8.
Thank you

 

[kfigerm]

@Little-Leopard -it's not about any drift in the pyramids. It's about minimizing the needed nutes to hit the perfect ratio and EC the plant needs. Your last message just came in an I'm going into it now...this may be a little off topic an generic because its "basic" of what I learned when i started dwc.
There are the optimal nute ratios a for cannabis in the different grow stages, we have learned from photos.

seedling/early grow 16-7-20
transition 8-6-12
full bloom 5-15-13

around these values i have some mixing calculations to adapt best around these vals in the res. these ratios work 90% without any lack or burn. "IF" I see defs or burns I adapt the mix around 10'% of the missing/exceeding element. With that calculation matrix I can catch everything without any further addons. The only thing i have in addition is rizo for seedling stage and some silica [edit] and for cal/mag i mix in tap water to the wanted Ca and some epsom salt solution to get mg in the ratio with cal [/edit].

the "official" nute proportions are not 100% "on edge" and you waste nutes. If you only wash the pyramid in the res, you wash off unneeded nutes back into the res and you may get an imbalance of npk in there after a while.
So I'm aiming for minimal nute excess and flexibility with the nutes, not just for the money.

 

[kfigerm]

You understand what I'm talking about? Don't know if I may link to other forums, and if you can translate the source i have for that. Perhaps if you like you can pm me.

 

[kfigerm]

watch your chat @Little-Leopard

 

[The Iconoclast]

@kfigerm yes it's strange they way super high ppm doesn't seem to cause major problems. Basically it is the small size therefore low risk that encourages me. The mutant gorilla cookies was interesting because it produced almost an ounce of pretty strong, if ugly looking bud, and also my Jack47XL had edge burned leaves and very dry brittle foliage the whole way through yet produced 4 zips of the best bud. This has made me a lot more relaxed, for example the Cheese are looking a bit ratty, one is very poorly growing so she was not topped but even the other one sort of looks ok but a close look at the leaves and she's not looking too good, and yet I'm pretty sure she will end up doing OK.



Nevertheless I do want to get it more perfect to see what these can really do when they are in perfect health all he way through.

Here's the Northern Lights a day after I took the two top sets of fan leaves off and two days after the chop. Usually I would be trying to leave tuck my way out of this, but just taking all four top leaves off is the ideal solution because I can see all the top 6 shoots at the same level and the bottom two not far below, however as I said above I'd not have done this in a large grow. I will add the shot from yesterday too for reference




@Little-Leopard that is very amusing to see the mini me version of the large ultimate, it's exactly like the big one, looking pretty impressive. And I've always wanted to do completely root misted aeroponic but time has past for me on this one. I think these pyramids could be the nearest effect.

No, haven't yet tried one mix all the way through but I want to do the 1:1:1 all the way though that's NPK, not MicroGroBloom. However I have just purchase a litre of natures own batshit bloom which I will try on one bean, that might work well with 1:1:1 NPK, and then just add the extra batshit when in bloom, yes I will do that on my new jedi in a mini pyramid which I've just planted. Anyway I'm looking forward to experimenting some more.

Right now I'm pretty fast and loose with the nutes, I just have two buckets one for grow mixed at 1:2:1 that is the MiGrBl ratio. and then 1:2.5 of Micro:Bloom. But I may decide to chuck a jug of grow nute over a blooming plant if the mood takes me. I don't really fuss that much.

Very interested to see how your properly plumbed and automated system goes, and also a mini pyramid vs a 25L airpot, that's some matchup I have to give it to the airpot but the question is by how much.

 

[The Iconoclast]

I decided to chop Gorilla Cookies after all. and I'm about 90% sure it is the same bean as the mutant at this stage, she was very tiny at 13 inches tall but 310g wet, and she is pretty dense and juicy so I'd expect about 70g maybe a bit more. So here's some gorilla porn and gorilla sizza hash

 

[kfigerm]

for reference, here the third ultimate in a pyramid for comparison - she's got the cube under her. could it be, that the size of the pyramid will still influence the end size? another thing to investigate.
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