Indoor Stunted grows stuff

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Do you know the reason they look so bad?
1. Because they were flooded every day from day 1 and their roots were rudimentary (about 5-6cm long). For a healthy plant you need strong roots. Medium like coco keeps enough moisture for seedlings if fully saturated before germing. I prefer big pots (7 and 11l) - buffer coco well with root stimulator and supplements, put the seed straight in the coco and 4 days later I have a sprout. I start giving feed/water on day 4-5 with spoon or syringe - just a bit to keep the moisture on the top around the plant. Keeping the medium a bit dry stimulates roots to look for water and nutes and they grow stronger. Roots need oxygen but if you flood them when they are undeveloped, you stunt them. About day 8-9 I start to give them more water (food with every watering) but still don't flood. About day 14-15 they need their first dose of veg nutes and heavy watering.

2. They were grown in cheap coco bricks. Cheap coco bricks have extremely high levels of sodium and fiber quality is very poor. If coco is lighter in colour, that suggests immature fibers. The result is a powdery growing media that has poor structure for root growth and aeration.
You need to flush the hell of those bricks out before use - for a brick that gives you 7l medium you should pour about 10 times more (70l). I first flush with ph-ed water, leave it for 24 to dry out a bit and then fully saturate with feeding solution.
Well, I don't use bricks anymore and get Canna coco - much better.

Just sharing my experience and what works best for me.
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Hey there Stone, thank you for your input :)
Regarding #2, very true about the cheap Coco being shit!
Lucky for me I am no longer using cheap shit Coco and should have enough of this good stuff to last me a while.

Regarding #1, in six days I had visible roots at the drain holes, my containers vary in size a bit but most roots were at least 5 inches long and that is flooding every day with nutes :)
Also you are using huge (7 & 11L) containers compared to mine, so with way less media I have to water more often.
I have done a lot of reading over the last few days and there seems to be two ways to achieve the same outcome:
1: Flood often with light nutes. (Flood daily)
2: Flood rarely with strong nutes. (Flood once or twice a week)

As this grow progresses watering may change depending on how the plants are going, hopefully green and not yellow.

Also it will be my birthday soon (end of next week) and I have told the family that acceptable gifts are:
BlueLab truncheon
BlueLab PH meter
BlueLab cleaning kit
So that's what I am getting for my birthday even if I have to buy them myself :P

And thanks Squidy, fullauto and Mandy and everyone else who stops in :bong:

Stunted Response
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DSC_0113.jpgDSC_0112.jpgthis is a family heirloom, no kidding, it belonged to my grandfather, he brought it from sicily at the turn of the 19th century:peace: it is over 100years old. it saw action in sicily, with my grandfather, it saw action in the roaring 20s with my father, and with me, in the sixties, when you say truncheon, what do you mean? this is called a sap, but it could also be called a truncheon:crying:is your truncheon for killing plants? or somthing else? the girls all look good! i cant wait until tarzan and jane appear,my :2cents: on your feeding scedule is numer two , flood twice a week with ful nutes. because cannabis likes it a little bit dry in between feeding, there response to getting a little dry is to pump out a little resin to protect the plant:booya::dance:cant wait to see some buddage!
 
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Nice Astroman, put me down for a beating or two :D

To clarify the items are:

BlueLab EC truncheon - EC means Extremely Costly
BlueLab PH meter - PH meaning Plant Hater
And a BlueLab cleaning kit, to clean up the dead plants....

I think this morning I am going to attempt to remove some of the Vermiculite from the top of some containers, it holds too much water and was only put in as a temporary measure.
I am going to replace it with some small stones, they are inert and hold no water.....that way there is no worries about collar rot occurring.

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Plants are looking really nice bro!!.. can't wait to see the outcome!..:D...:smokebuds:
 
Cheers folks :thumbs:

Day 11

Well I removed the Vermiculite and replaced it with small stones, most are about 5mm and like the Hydroton will be easy to remove...just pour it out the top and save...then throw waste Coco outside.

And since I was in the cab I thought you might like to see more pictures, if you look close at the group shot you can see some are slowly turning a lighter green color :(
They were flooded yesterday with 520ppm Coco A & B so will leave it a few days before flooding again to see what happens.

Group shot:
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Cobra II, AAxSG I & RBB I
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And finally some up-skirt shots of three Jems :D
Jems1_3_May_2012.jpg Jems2_3_May_2012.jpg Jems3_3_May_2012.jpg

Stunted Stuff
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Day 12

SR x MI5 - IV is Female
12 days is the earliest I have had a plant show sex!

Stunted Sex
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