No pollen yet - howcum?

[Heisenbeans]

show off <3 lol how many plants is that? 10-15?
Man I would die if I had to deal with all that pollen. A few weeks was painful enough.

That was 2 plants 3 feet tall.

 

[Ryno_nuggs]

Nice. I try to pluck them a day before they open. Get more pollen that way. Just a mini tip.

Thanks for the tip! They seem to be popping open before I thought they would. Think I got it down now.

 

[RYCBAR]

That was 2 plants 3 feet tall.

damn. Im just running a single t5 lol in my closet. Just been bored from covid and wanted to try reversing.

 

[RYCBAR]

Thanks for the tip! They seem to be popping open before I thought they would. Think I got it down now.

Welcome. I see hints of pollen in your photo. Hopefully you get a decent amount and its viable.

 

[RYCBAR]

Is it just me or do seeded plants absolutely love N & Cal/Mag?

 

[Olderfart]

Is it just me or do seeded plants absolutely love N & Cal/Mag?

I doubt it, but I don't know. Good question in any case.

 

[RYCBAR]

I doubt it, but I don't know. Good question in any case.

James from loud seeds said run higher levels of N than you would normally in flower.
But man are they cal & mag hungry.

Would be interesting to hear what others run for nutes on seeded plants.

 

[Olderfart]

They don't make the CS strong enough. I think STS is harder to screw up because the formulas to make it are all over. CS takes alot of trial and alot of error to get it right. Correct Temps, enough air, correct voltage ETC. I make mine a gallon at a time. Its easier on the plants imo. Both methods work I just prefer CS for huge production runs.
I do not think one has an advantage over the other for producing pollen. I think that is 100 percent the genetics of the plant. Once a plant is reversed the ethylene is blocked and thats it. Its up to the plant to produce pollen. I have seen plenty of sacks with hardly any pollen on certain strains.
I've reversed wedding cake 10 different ways and the outcome always the same. It genetically won't give out much pollen. Some moms I've reversed will put out like a male no matter what you spray on em.

Re. when to quit spraying with CS, I wonder whether the ethylene block persists indefinitely after the balls show up and most peeps stop spraying. I have been wondering if spraying until later, say until the first balls start dropping pollen, might keep the ethylene block fully in place while actual pollen production gets going strongly. Perhaps one of the reasons that CS does not produce as much pollen as STS is because ceasing spraying allows the ethylene block to fizzle out, interfering with production of pollen. As long as you are not soaking down lots of open balls, I am not sure what the downside of this approach might be. I will likely do this the next time around to see what happens.

Happy seeding peeps.

 

[Heisenbeans]

Re. when to quit spraying with CS, I wonder whether the ethylene block persists indefinitely after the balls show up and most peeps stop spraying. I have been wondering if spraying until later, say until the first balls start dropping pollen, might keep the ethylene block fully in place while actual pollen production gets going strongly. Perhaps one of the reasons that CS does not produce as much pollen as STS is because ceasing spraying allows the ethylene block to fizzle out, interfering with production of pollen. As long as you are not soaking down lots of open balls, I am not sure what the downside of this approach might be. I will likely do this the next time around to see what happens.

Happy seeding peeps.

Never had an issue with not enough pollen using CS. I have used them both and noticed no difference. I always stop stop spraying after hairs are completely gone. I work exclusively with clones so.i have reversed the same moms quite a bit different ways. My conclusion is that it is just plant dependent 100 percent . I have stardawg moms that will not produce pollen . Its there and maybe enough to make 100.seeds , but I can do anything with it. I have to make thousands of seeds and need plants that put out .

 

[Arthur]

Would like some thoughts on this one.
When I started my last run, I started 1 additional walter white with the idea of reversing. This one was a bit weird, she had a hard time figuring out what way was up but figured if she'd grow, we'd continue. I marked 3 branches and have been spraying twice daily just after lights out, and before lights on, with CS I made a while back (maybe 18 months).

Anyhow, I've got sacks starting to pop up where I didn't spray. I was careful, and masked each branch off from the rest when treating, and I made the branches obvious so I'd didn't spray wrong ones....

But seeing sacks in the pistils is kinda odd. Pics of both sprayed and the unsprayed. Kinda thinking she may have been an it to start. Showed female at sexing.

Thoughts?

Sprayed

Unsprayed