New Grower Natures Living Soil first Grow.

[Tom Bombadil]

Claim:
""It is highly likely a cal/mag issue. We have noticed a pattern with HF and suspect that they are no longer buffering their coco coir which saves them money but unbuffered coco coir (the main ingredient of OF) will hold on to calcium and magnesium" "

Reality:
"Ingredients: Composted forest humus, sphagnum peat moss, Pacific Northwest sea-going fish emulsion, crab meal, shrimp meal, earthworm castings, sandy loam, perlite, bat guano, granite dust, Norwegian kelp, and oyster shell (for pH adjustment). "

Ocean Forest Potting Soil by FoxFarm (1.5cf) | Planet Natural

100% Natural & Organic. Ocean Forest Soil is ready to use right out of the bag and provides the ideal environment for young seedlings to become thriving plants.

www.planetnatural.com

"FoX fArM OcEaN ForEsts MaIn InGrEdIeNt iS cOcO"

From some dorks literally and figuratively selling 40 dollar bags of crap.

 

[Big Sul]

We should dub this issue... NLS disease. Seems appropriate.

If that didn't hurt so bad, I'd "like" ur comment and reply with a cute emoji.

 

[Big Sul]

I'm waiting for runoff in 2nd pot to drain to get ph & ppm. First one were interesting. Be back soon.

 

[Big Sul]

What does this info tell us?

GG4 - watered w/rainwater ph'd to 6.4. 12oz of runoff measured 606ppm & 6.5ph

GSC - same as above, results 17oz runoff 600ppm & 6.4ph.

Hope I did this correctly. I used approximately 3/4 gal per plant to achieve the desired runoff. I pored runoff into clean container & measured ppm & ph. It took a hour to water. Water, let soak in, water, soak, water, soak. Starting water is 18ppm(rainwater), ph of rw starts at 6.7. I bring it down to 6.4 using ph down.

 

[Big Sul]

No new info other than pics of the gals. While I wish the condition of the plants were different, I must say that I am viewing the process thru a different set of glasses. I'm interested in what you guys think of the runoff readings last night.

Took these just now.

 

[WildBill]

What part of the light cycle is that pic?

I see something you really need to get a handle on.
Your humidity is all over the place! Girls are in flower now and your humidity needs to come down. Paying close attention to VPD, hence rH and temp, will pay in growth and bud development.

 

[Big Sul]

What part of the light cycle is that pic?

I see something you really need to get a handle on.
Your humidity is all over the place! Girls are in flower now and your humidity needs to come down. Paying close attention to VPD, hence rH and temp, will pay in growth and bud development.

That humidity meter is on the ground between 2 fully watered pots. I focus on the Bluetooth that I have at the canopy. Those readings are 71f/70%. Also in front of fan which is blowing the air from humidifier. I just moved it out of direct line of Fire.

Keep on watching me. Thx.

 

[WildBill]

That humidity meter is on the ground between 2 fully watered pots. I focus on the Bluetooth that I have at the canopy. Those readings are 71f/70%.

Ok.........the humidity still needs to come down,
Your VPD is 0.48 kPa and should be 0.8-1.2

 

[Big Sul]

Ok.........the humidity still needs to come down,
Your VPD is 0.48 kPa and should be 0.8-1.2

I turned off the humidifier and I am able to maintain these levels. THANK YOU. I would have never even thought of turning it off with ambient rh in garage is 20%.

This is MATRIX level stuff. What I think WILL happen is not necessarily what WILL happen. Thx for the paradigm shift.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

What does this info tell us?

GG4 - watered w/rainwater ph'd to 6.4. 12oz of runoff measured 606ppm & 6.5ph

GSC - same as above, results 17oz runoff 600ppm & 6.4ph.

Hope I did this correctly. I used approximately 3/4 gal per plant to achieve the desired runoff. I pored runoff into clean container & measured ppm & ph. It took a hour to water. Water, let soak in, water, soak, water, soak. Starting water is 18ppm(rainwater), ph of rw starts at 6.7. I bring it down to 6.4 using ph down.

That ppm is very low for an organic mix with nls added... should be more like 900-1200 at least... Ive had some tlo soil that had a runoff ppm in the 2000s... then I stopped bothering with checking it... 2000 ppm in organics is wildly different than 2000 ppm of immediately available synth nutes. Ide be watching for deficiencies to pop up at this stage when they are really hungry probably in the next two weeks.