New Grower Natures Living Soil first Grow.

[Big Sul]

I'm off the opinion that the worst is over, his plants need time to respond. I've been following his pics and I think it has halted now. Let's see in a couple days.

Does anything I have posted shine light on anything?

 

[Big Sul]

I went back for the cal/mag in my tap water that runs 180ppm.

Just filled gal bucket of tap water. 190ppm. Letting it declorinate if that is a direction we (@pop22 , @Proph , you ) decide is relevant. SEMPER PARATUS (always ready).

 

[WildBill]

Does anything I have posted shine light on anything?

The other guys know way more than I do, but the spots showing up now, could be just the progress of past damage. I look to the condition of the new growth for indicators. If you can remember or if you noticed at the time, did you see any discoloration on the leaves before the spots appeared in those areas?
But, like my girls with the affected leaves actually improving with age, this could be accumulative and show up as some toxicity.
I defer to the other guys with a ton more knowledge than me though. Container growing is still very new to me.

 

[Big Sul]

Just received this directly from NLS:

"It is highly likely a cal/mag issue. We have noticed a pattern with HF and suspect that they are no longer buffering their coco coir which saves them money but unbuffered coco coir (the main ingredient of OF) will hold on to calcium and magnesium"

"PS add some cal/mag to your water and she will be fine"

This is just another piece of the puzzle. What say you "rabbi's"?

I have on hand the following: (all unopened):

Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus
Recharge
MegaCrop
NLS Girl Flower Power(opened)

 

[pop22]

It's not a deficiency, it was toxic on some mineral or element, causing lockout. Looks like P. And As I mentioned to Big Sul, nutrient related plant problems start days to weeks before you see it occur.

And someone at NLS is talking out there ass, there is no coco coir in OF.

Just received this directly from NLS:

"It is highly likely a cal/mag issue. We have noticed a pattern with HF and suspect that they are no longer buffering their coco coir which saves them money but unbuffered coco coir (the main ingredient of OF) will hold on to calcium and magnesium"

"PS add some cal/mag to your water and she will be fine"

This is just another piece of the puzzle. What say you "rabbi's"?

I have on hand the following: (all unopened):

Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus
Recharge
MegaCrop
NLS Girl Flower Power(opened)

 

[WildBill]

Just received this directly from NLS:

"It is highly likely a cal/mag issue. We have noticed a pattern with HF and suspect that they are no longer buffering their coco coir which saves them money but unbuffered coco coir (the main ingredient of OF) will hold on to calcium and magnesium"

"PS add some cal/mag to your water and she will be fine"

This is just another piece of the puzzle. What say you "rabbi's"?

I have on hand the following: (all unopened):

Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus
Recharge
MegaCrop
NLS Girl Flower Power(opened)

Given past over feeding, I'd proceed very cautiously. Recharge with any of the above will make them more available. I think Recharge is a no-brainer. At this early stage of bloom, MC will work fine..............and the way pop uses it, it works the whole cycle with great results. I have no input on the other products.
If this is a cal/mag deficiency, I would swap to tap, Boost and MC. Pop can chime in on his feeding of MC in this case.
Again..........I'm sure no expert on this stuff! LOL!

 

[WildBill]

It's not a deficiency, it was toxic on some mineral or element, causing lockout. Looks like P. And As I mentioned to Big Sul, nutrient related plant problems start days to weeks before you see it occur.

And someone at NLS is talking out there ass, there is no coco coir in OF.

LMMFAO!

 

[Big Sul]

I am currently in lights out and will take another look when they are back on. After further thought and reading the posts, I'm getting a better understanding of what is being said. today I was fixated on the development on the younger plant which is 8 days behind. I need to monitor more closely the older plant to actually determine the direction the plant is going.

 

[Proph]

Yeah.. Thag NLS reply is garbage.. How to you sell organic products and them suggest cal/mag??? Wtf??? Smh.. On top of being wrong about coco being in OF and HF.. The plant is in flower.. There wont be any new leaf development to watch for.. New leaves grow in veg... Buds grow in flower. So you have to watch the spread.

I'd be curious to see the ppms of some run off. Something tells me it's in the low thousands, like 2-3000. A nutrient lock out is also my 1st assumption.

 

[pop22]

Exactly what I've been saying! Overfed and toxic, causing a P lockout. He could do a flush but that's hard on organic plants, that's why I told him just keep using plain water.

Yeah.. Thag NLS reply is garbage.. How to you sell organic products and them suggest cal/mag??? Wtf??? Smh.. On top of being wrong about coco being in OF and HF.. The plant is in flower.. There wont be any new leaf development to watch for.. New leaves grow in veg... Buds grow in flower. So you have to watch the spread.

I'd be curious to see the ppms of some run off. Something tells me it's in the low thousands, like 2-3000. A nutrient lock out is also my 1st assumption.