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Duckster I am totally with you, I actually got it all the way up to 2750. Then I thought that there is no way. So I did a rez change and brought it back down to around 2000 and they are doing great. I think I had some severe salt toxicity leading to nutrient lockout. I have never seen anything up that high withouht any burning. I am having to switch over to the Canna Substra line which i am kind of scared to do because it says it is for a flood to waste nutrient and not speciffically for recirculating systems. But at this point I really don't have much of a choice.