@Frenjamin Banklin first off. Plantsook great. and like you i spread the word to my teenage daughter about whats going on around us. i know in this area here they are really gettinf to make fake carts. I personally know someone who makes 9 thousand a month. One month he had to make 11 thousand. And others around this area are actually putting K2 in them. most people around here can turn one gram of concentrate into 3 or 4 csrtridges. Hit up chinas site like dhgate and they got all the packaging they need. The problem is these people tell these youbger folks. Or folks that dont even think twice about what they do that these cartridges are used. So not only are people buying peg or vg or mct oil that osnt the best for you to begin with, they are using plastic carts with lead that also have fake terpenes tjat draws stuff out of plastic. With unpurged concentrate then they inhale it at. A very high tempfor those big clouds? Cuz more smoke.and bigger the cough.
Well if you dont cough you dont get off is the old saying? Well most folks just dont realize if your seeing smoke your vaping wrong lol. Im glad to see others on here spreading the knowledge. if we want our future generations healthy its gonna be up to us to help them because its been implanted into to many minda that all marijuana is safe or they are being lied to be blackmarket dealers. Sorry for long post. This topic just hits me deep. Ill avoid rambling on in the future posts lol
 
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I just changed the thread title and I’ll explain but first some bud porn.

Here is Ripleys OG just starting to get frosty View attachment 1100827

And here are some Six Shooter working hard. View attachment 1100828

Ok so back to the thread title.

I took out vape carts because I feel it is going to send the wrong message of what I’ve been trying to do and what I want to show folks later on in this thread.

Background. I’m a middle aged regular working class guy with two teenage girls and a wonderful wife. Living in your average middle class town with good schools. I hadn’t smoke or consumed in over 20 years before starting the grow journey for pain management two years ago. I’m open with my children and we discuss how it’s not meant to be used the way many people are.

Because of my situation I have been since the very early stages trying to find the best way to consume and also create a product that I can allow others in my family to try with different ailments. I have smoked 1/2 of a joint in 2 years. Vaped out of s dry herb vape maybe 20 times. And recently had some negative experience with a cart. But that aside for now.

I’ve crested many many many tinctures with various methods that mostly all revolved around soaking in grain or heating in another carrier oil. And in the past two years I have thrown away more mistakes than I care to think about. Lots and lots and LOTS of THC had gone into the bin. Whether it was chocolates that tasted like dog shit. Tinctures that made you gag or just some random burning other mishap during the process that destroyed the product.

But now after all the mishaps and lost product I feel like I’ve got a descent handle on the different things that need to happen all throughout the process to get what I want in the end. I want to go over the nuances of extraction and how to remove those things that we may or may not want. I want to go over the nuances of temperature through the process and how that can change the final product. A lot of what I learned along the way was from write ups about creating vape oil. In order to get a pure clean product for that is where I got a lot of information that I feel was glossed over in the tincture threads that just said “soak then evaporate”.

At the end of the day will I take some of the refined oils and make myself a cartridge. Yes. Do I think cartridges are safer. Just like a gun I believe they are safer when a quality product is mixed with a quality delivery device and used responsibly.


BUT here is what I think the issue is and it’s going to effect us all.
Street dealers are in a hurry and like mentioned are probably using BHO for extraction and not purging. With all the hype around PEG it seems everyone is looking for new carriers and that could be very dangerous. Then you have The users that want to blow huge smoke clouds so instead of vaping at a lower temperature they are modifying there pens or vaping at temperatures that cause caustic substance to be created. Combine all three and I think you get a deadly situation.

Sorry for the ramble. But just wanted to change title and clarify that i didn’t want to push the vape thing but it was just a part of my two year extraction journey. I want to make MEDICAL grade medicine so I hope you’ll all continue to watch along.

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Good looking grow bro. Sorry if I came across a little harsh about the carts earlier. I was just trying to share some info with you all that I had done some research on, just in case someone hadn't seen that info yet. I don't want to see anyone get hurt because of carelessness, but I was not trying to insinuate that you were one of those people! It's scary and I actually found out that one of my school friends is in the hospital now because of respiratory issues from those carts. She is not nearly as bad as the other cases out there but it really hit home to me. I don't want to see anyone get hurt from something that is meant to be the ultimate medicine.
 
I apologize as well if i came across harsh. I just think if for whatever reason if thers a higher power after we die and they ask me well you knew about this. And these problems and you just sat by and didnt spread the little knowledge you know. its just like beer. Any beer that isnt organic thats commercially produced like coors, busch, budweiser, sam adams..all failed for pesticides. Yeah mpst are in legal amounts. Legal amounts for one beer. But what happens when you drink a 6 pack... or a case lol. Who knows. Looking forward to your grow man. I been wanting to try that ripleys og have to let.us know on that smoke please.
 
I apologize as well if i came across harsh. I just think if for whatever reason if thers a higher power after we die and they ask me well you knew about this. And these problems and you just sat by and didnt spread the little knowledge you know. its just like beer. Any beer that isnt organic thats commercially produced like coors, busch, budweiser, sam adams..all failed for pesticides. Yeah mpst are in legal amounts. Legal amounts for one beer. But what happens when you drink a 6 pack... or a case lol. Who knows. Looking forward to your grow man. I been wanting to try that ripleys og have to let.us know on that smoke please.
Dam! I never knew that! Good thing I pretty much stopped drinking. There is nothing good that comes from that but beer shits and hangovers. Pardon my French :crying:
 
@Frenjamin Banklin i agree. Its people like that thats gonna ruin it. And like you i didnt grow up in an era where we got to be friends on facebook to be friends in real life. Or where you got to put LOL after everything because if your too stern theyll get defensive. i tried to start a thread about vsping temperatures. Are you familiar with knowing how hot your getting coils under certain settings? Its something i really would like to know. Mainly.with the cheap ones thats set on 3.3 or 3.7 volts. Which most people around here use cuz there 6 dollars plus 5 dollsrs for a charger thats gonna burn your house down
 
These are the two liquid vapes in the left and the dry her on the rightView attachment 1100954 View attachment 1100955

You can see the temperatures in the text. I haven’t checked that one but I suppose I could, the others are impossible to check as the element is internal. But I would assume would have to be close or you would know in the taste, except for those that always burn hot I suppose. To them it’s always full burn so I wouldn’t know if that had any differential after a certain temp.
thanks for this response. I been trying so hard to figure out the temperatures. And your right about the "buzz" with different temps. Also, anything over 230 celsius or 446 Fahrenheit vaping turns into combustion.
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