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[KingRatt]

Lmao i was 2 in 1983!

I was -1 lol

 

[KingRatt]

And here we are today, still not too shabby!
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Very nice! How many strains you got going at once?

 

[Cerebral Goo]

 

[Cerebral Goo]

Been down the pizza wormhole for hours today. PizzaForum.com. Like growing, there are no absolutes with dough. My brain is sore... Got the oven and stand put together today and will start making some dough later this week. Wanna do neo Neapolitan style pies, so will have to make my own path.

There is a bakery named Roscoli's (check it out on YouTube) in Rome and their pizza al taglio is beyond amazing. Want to get the taste of their crust, but in the Neapolitan style with a little more crunch. Basically between NY and Neapolitan. That flavor of the Roscioli's....been craving it all day....

 

[FullDuplex]

Word on Ph for the growers with cold grow rooms.

When I was growing in an outdoor room at the house @FullDuplex was teaching me about PH-ing and bubbling my water. Air pump.

I set up a 10 gallon bin of water...with an air pump in.

PH is affected by heat and light.

If I PH'd the water in the morning...when it had been stood in the dark and the cold overnight..it gave one reading.

If I PH'd the SAME WATER in the afternoon...after daylight and warmth there could be as much as a full PH point difference.

It was the same water. ...two completely different PH readings.


The way I had to work it was i was on 14/10....cold/early winter....so my girls were on the cold reading for the majority of their time..14 hours.

So use the readings from the cold measure period.

Heat and Light affect your water readings.


If you have a PH meter...check it out. Take a cold morning reading...then stand the same water in the light and warmth for a few hours...and retest....


Also... everyone I've seen with the screw adjusted PH meter says they are a PITA to calibrate.

I bought a cheap/generic PH meter that lasted me faithfully for years...but I upgraded for a one recommended by AFN members at the time...cough..cough......and it was Rubbish/faulty.....so was the replacement.


Price does not guarantee quality with them.

you know, I still run a bubbler in my tanks. Still don't own a pH meter and all the drops are long gone.

BUT.... my water is the same temp as the room, as the soil in my pots. So i get away with a little more play.

If you have high temp swings and you store the water you use to hydrate your plants, take the words above to heart. It can and will effect the pH of the water.

Sharing one....

 

[Mañ'O'Green]

Off to bed. Good Morfnoevight All!

 

[KingRatt]

Don't take this personally, I'm a making a general statement.

I don't really get this obsession of a "water only grow". I understand the desire to have a trouble free grow, but what are you gonna do on the second grow?

Are you going to tear it up and put it in a tote, then re-emend it and let it cook? Then use that material in another pot for the next grow? That is what most people do when they're growing in small pots, but why do it in large pots?

The idea of a large container is to have a living environment that is set up pretty much like nature. You have all your nutrients in your soil and you also have a nutrient layer at the top of the media just like in nature, the plant will take from everything .
You can design your own feeding program with what materials you have on hand and available to you or BAS has several different ones written up that you can use.
The mainstay of this style of growing is top dressing and developing an active top layer. A living cover crop aids in this setup in several ways. It helps maintaining proper moisture level at the top, breaks down the nutrients that you top dress with, provides food for your girl in that of active upper top layer as you trim it back And the roots supply the rest of the pot when you kill it off.

The idea is to create an environment where you can quickly start another grow cycle without tearing things up. You're not depleting the overall fertility in your container. The fertility should actually increase with each successive grow.

Tray2Grow set ups will be my go to production method in the near future. Since they essentially function the same, it's like having a 25 gallon Earthbox. The plant will develop the same root structure with the wicking mat as the Earth box does with the wicking areas. The plant has all that nice clean nutrient free Water to take up and this left to utilize the other nutrients it finds in the top layer as it needs it.
Now Jeremy is not fully utilizing this particular setup to as foolish as far as the ongoing and continuing growing aspect, he is testing lights and a few other things with this particular grow. You did get the idea though.

So you just chop the plant at the base of the stem and leave the roots in the pot, still in the soil and just plant again? No time between grows?

 

[Mossy]

you know, I still run a bubbler in my tanks. Still don't own a pH meter and all the drops are long gone.

BUT.... my water is the same temp as the room, as the soil in my pots. So i get away with a little more play.

If you have high temp swings and you store the water you use to hydrate your plants, take the words above to heart. It can and will effect the pH of the water.

Sharing one....

Shhhhhhh.........I'm not sure @Waira has gone to bed yet................. he'll have us...........


Yup..the water in the grow tent would do it...coz it is the temperature it will sit in the soil at.........


I've just been dancing on the patio in my bare legs getting a PH reading....and it is bloody freezing...........

 

[KingRatt]

Hi @Mossy , hope all is well! I love my cheap 20$ ph pen. I dont have to deal with temp swings and i check it often between calibration against a liquid ph test kit and it still works great! I would like to learn how to grow without using a ph pen, but it totally escapes me about how to go about it. I would have no idea when top dressings were required. Im going to study this more. Hope you have an awesome day! And that goes for everybody at AFN!!!

 

[Mossy]

Hi @Mossy , hope all is well! I love my cheap 20$ ph pen. I dont have to deal with temp swings and i check it often between calibration against a liquid ph test kit and it still works great! I would like to learn how to grow without using a ph pen, but it totally escapes me about how to go about it. I would have no idea when top dressings were required. Im going to study this more. Hope you have an awesome day! And that goes for everybody at AFN!!!

Morning @KingRatt .. #SharingOne

It depends on your grow style really......those short..bud full indicas you showed need control to get them like that.....

Mine just get what they are given..........and be grateful.....


I learned how bad our water was..exactly the same as you....wanting to use AN nutes...our EC was near 500..

You are told don't drink the tap water in Spain....but the general consensus was...you wouldn't even water your plants with it...


We are very high Cal...