Live Stoners Live Stoner Chat - Apr-Jun '24

[wwwillie]

A little 420 history lesson, and of course the Grateful Dead are involved. . .

WHY 4/20?
The origins of the date, and the term “420” generally, were long murky. Some claimed it referred to a police code for marijuana possession or that it derived from Bob Dylan’s “Rainy Day Women No. 12 & 35,” with its refrain of “Everybody must get stoned” — 420 being the product of 12 times 35.

But the prevailing explanation is that it started in the 1970s with a group of bell-bottomed buddies from San Rafael High School, in California's Marin County north of San Francisco, who called themselves “the Waldos.” A friend’s brother was afraid of getting busted for a patch of cannabis he was growing in the woods at nearby Point Reyes, so he drew a map and gave the teens permission to harvest the crop, the story goes.

During fall 1971, at 4:20 pm, just after classes and football practice, the group would meet up at the school’s statue of chemist Louis Pasteur, smoke a joint and head out to search for the weed patch. They never did find it, but their private lexicon — “420 Louie” and later just “420” — would take on a life of its own.

The Waldos saved postmarked letters and other artifacts from the 1970s referencing “420,” which they now keep in a bank vault, and when the Oxford English Dictionary added the term in 2017, it cited some of those documents as the earliest recorded uses.

HOW DID '420' SPREAD?
A brother of one of the Waldos was a close friend of Grateful Dead bassist Phil Lesh, as Lesh once confirmed in an interview with the Huffington Post, now HuffPost. The Waldos began hanging out in the band’s circle and the slang spread.

Fast-forward to the early 1990s: Steve Bloom, a reporter for the cannabis magazine High Times, was at a Dead show when he was handed a flier urging people to “meet at 4:20 on 4/20 for 420-ing in Marin County at the Bolinas Ridge sunset spot on Mt. Tamalpais.” High Times published it.

“It’s a phenomenon,” one of the Waldos, Steve Capper, now 69, once told The Associated Press. “Most things die within a couple years, but this just goes on and on. It’s not like someday somebody’s going to say, ‘OK, Cannabis New Year’s is on June 23rd now.’”

While the Waldos came up with the term, the people who made the flier distributed at the Dead show — and effectively turned 4/20 into a holiday — remain unknown.

HOW IS IT CELEBRATED?
With weed, naturally.

Some celebrations are bigger than others: The Mile High 420 Festival in Denver, for example, typically draws thousands and describes itself as the largest free 4/20 event in the world. Hippie Hill in San Francisco’s Golden Gate Park has also attracted massive crowds, but the gathering was canceled this year, with organizers citing a lack of financial sponsorship and city budget cuts.

FILE - A vendor makes change for a marijuana customer at a cannabis marketplace in Los Angeles, April 15, 2019. Marijuana advocates are gearing up for Saturday, April 20, 2024. Known as 4/20, marijuana's high holiday is marked by large crowds gathering in parks, at festivals and on college campuses to smoke together. (AP Photo/Richard Vogel, File)
A cannabis vendor makes a sale
College quads and statehouse lawns are also known for drawing 4/20 celebrations, with the University of Colorado Boulder historically among the largest, though not so much since administrators banned the annual smokeout over a decade ago.

Some breweries make beers that are 420-themed, but not laced, including SweetWater Brewing in Atlanta, which is throwing a 420 music festival this weekend and whose founders went to the University of Colorado.

Lagunitas Brewing in Petaluma, California, releases its “Waldos’ Special Ale” every year on 4/20 in partnership with the term’s coiners. That's where the Waldos will be this Saturday to sample the beer, for which they picked out “hops that smell and taste like the dankest marijuana,” one Waldo, Dave Reddix, said via email.

4/20 has also become a big industry event, with vendors gathering to try each other's wares.

 

[Cerebral Goo]

Thanks @Heart of flowers! You got quite the bush yourself!

 

[Cerebral Goo]

off to the day...have a great 420! don't worry, be...

 

[SNOOKY]

@Lil Dab

 

[PinkyNotTheBrain]

Well i didn't lose too much time on them but i lost 6 that were a couple weeks old 3 SODK and 3 Hubbabubbasmelloscope... and 10 sprouts of organicx genetics blue spinel while I was in the hospital

I chopped Purple Ryder, JEM Queen and Sawney Beans Predator before I left n had em hanging , ready for when I got back.

#ShowMeYourBush

The survivors
left to right:
@Jean-O s WTF , Night Owl Strawberry popesicle , @Jean-O s RBF s2

 

[blue]

420!!!

Hapy Celebration Day amigos!

 

[Antonio_DutchPassion]

Just curious.. how is Dutch Passion involved here? I think someone mentioned them somewhere earlier? Maybe im hallucinating

I'm here if you got any questions mate, just holla at me!

 

[N/A-Greengo]

The lower side branches looking juicy on Mephisto Genetics Fantasmo Express....

Happy 420 everyone!

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[Mossy]

Newly found cannabis compound could be 30 TIMES more potent than THC

Italian scientists have discovered a new cannabis compound that can potentially be 30 times more potent than current THC, the main compound found in marijuana. It's unclear if it will do so.

www.dailymail.co.uk

@Frankthetank .......

 

[Frankthetank]

Newly found cannabis compound could be 30 TIMES more potent than THC

Italian scientists have discovered a new cannabis compound that can potentially be 30 times more potent than current THC, the main compound found in marijuana. It's unclear if it will do so.

www.dailymail.co.uk

@Frankthetank .......

Hmmmm…. Very interesting Perhaps they’ve isolated the frog…