How do you get those heavy dense nugs?

[Doug58]

Mine looked like yours for the most part. I stopped growing indoors and now just grow outdoors and I noticed those planted late in the season seem to produce fluffier buds than those planted earlier enough in the Spring to get the best long days.

Different phenos of the same strains will get different results.

I just recently vacuum packed 24 ounces of last years grow after taking them all out of jars and then I froze it all in my chest freezer so they wouldn't lose the potency they now have. I previously smoked weed that was kept in a footlocker in a plastic Ziploc bag for a couple years back in the 70's and was probably two years old and it got me stoned so hopefully vacuum packing and freezing will retain potency but.....

I will have to open a package to see how the buds end up.

I have never seen machine trimmed weed as far as I know, I had two half ounces of dispensary weed two years ago but I don't think it looked like the pictures above.

 

[Doug58]

I just pulled out some different strains I still have in jars. My Fastbuds LSD-25 and Rhino Ryder buds look like Nelly Nugs picture. Others look like karlkutta's. All depends on genetics, growing conditions and how close I trimmed. If I am trimming a large quantity my hands hurt from arthritis and the more I trim the worse my buds look as I just want to finish.

I trim after washing while they are still fresh. Then let them hang a few days and trim again before putting in brown bags. It just seems easier than drying completely and then trimming after the leaves dry up and begin to curl. I grew some purple strains that the sugar leaves seemed like leather or almost like a succulent type plant with thick sugar leaves.

 

[BII]

This seems like a good place to ask some questions related to dense nugs:

1) Are dense buds inherently more potent than looser buds (more active THC/total weight) ? If not, why does seemingly everyone want dense buds? Are dense buds different in terpene content?

2) Theoretically, dense buds, with less exposed sepal/bud surface area (less light exposure), would be less potent vs. airy buds. This presumes that plant leaf/sepal surface area exposure to light is related to THC production (such as why would do leaf tucking or removal, to give buds more access to light). But is this really true, or just another growers' myth?

3) Aren't dense buds just buds with the sepals/parts having stuck/gunked together on their own, as the bud developed? If not, what makes buds 'dense?'

 

[Mustang92]

I just pulled out some different strains I still have in jars. My Fastbuds LSD-25 and Rhino Ryder buds look like Nelly Nugs picture. Others look like karlkutta's. All depends on genetics, growing conditions and how close I trimmed. If I am trimming a large quantity my hands hurt from arthritis and the more I trim the worse my buds look as I just want to finish.

I trim after washing while they are still fresh. Then let them hang a few days and trim again before putting in brown bags. It just seems easier than drying completely and then trimming after the leaves dry up and begin to curl. I grew some purple strains that the sugar leaves seemed like leather or almost like a succulent type plant with thick sugar leaves.

what you think of the lsd-25 / good smoke?, thats one i want to get just waiting on a sale to upgrade the bean stash.

Trimming weed blows arse after 2 plants, I boought the bud trimmer on amazon it's awesome, you can trim by hand better plant one and two but it starts to shine plant 3 to 30 and you get awesome trimmings for butter. My buddy wants us to split on commercial trimmer but I wouldn't mind a 3rd person in on deal because they aren't cheap.

 

[Arthur]

I believe the desire for overly dense nug came from when we first were forced indoor and started growing under MH and HPS in the early 80s. Time and space dictated short flowering plants short height etc, heavily indica dominant strains ruled the market... hps caused us to grow with cooler temps too which amplifies trait in a good hash plant. Fluffy indoor nurfle was a sign of lack of skill, lack of light, lack of enough AC... so dense became tied to quality. Just an opinion, and worth exactly what you paid.

 

[derek420colorado]

I believe the desire for overly dense nug came from when we first were forced indoor and started growing under MH and HPS in the early 80s. Time and space dictated short flowering plants short height etc, heavily indica dominant strains ruled the market... hps caused us to grow with cooler temps too which amplifies trait in a good hash plant. Fluffy indoor nurfle was a sign of lack of skill, lack of light, lack of enough AC... so dense became tied to quality. Just an opinion, and worth exactly what you paid.

I think we have a winner here! Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Doug58]

what you think of the lsd-25 / good smoke?, thats one i want to get just waiting on a sale to upgrade the bean stash.

Trimming weed blows arse after 2 plants, I boought the bud trimmer on amazon it's awesome, you can trim by hand better plant one and two but it starts to shine plant 3 to 30 and you get awesome trimmings for butter. My buddy wants us to split on commercial trimmer but I wouldn't mind a 3rd person in on deal because they aren't cheap.

It was supposed to be highly psychoactive but I didn't find it to be so when smoking. It also was pretty harsh smoking until a longer cure when it mellowed out some. I haven't found a real psychoactive smoke since someone gifted me a 1/2 oz of medical dispensary Purple Trainwreck from Arizona. I was used to 1970's sativas like Mexican, Colombian and Hawaiian. Fastbuds Mexican Airlines is the closest I have experienced.

The edibles I have made are the closest I have got to the high of those weeds with a trippy head high. Used some cannaoil the other night that had me on a serious high that was still going throughout the night and next day that was like an acid trip.

I probably have a pretty high tolerance to smoking right now and probably need to stop smoking for a couple weeks. Indicas seem to lack the kick of the old sativas I used in my youth.

 

[Dank Nuggets]

Careful what you wish for. Dense buds on the plant are a target for bud rot. That given the first ingredient is the genetics of the plant. Indica photoperiods will grow the densest buds. 50 or more DLI of a red leaning light with plenty of UVA and UVB. Fall like conditions with day temps ~75°F and Night temps 62°F in the last 3 weeks of flower. Proper nutrition. Dense buds do not test higher than more open ones at least the ones I have tested. I have lost several dense bud plants to bud rot so I would rather not grow them.

Yes never had bud rot till last grow lost a cola to it but it was the shortest indica in the tent and have improved air flow since then so fingers crossed

 

[Arthur]

that's interesting. i hadn't thought about it before, but i suppose if you were the enterprising sort, you would want a compact product. less volume, more mass.

The mid 80s is where we picked up our nickname... stoner... late 70s and maybe 80 and 81 were mostly good outdoor grown sativas. Hawaiian varieties Mexican, Acapulco gold , Panama... weed was "trippy" the 80s and the heavy indicas came with Nancy Reagan and just say NO. Good times...or was it "Fast Times" at Ridgemont High...

 

[bil]

Looks like PGR bud to me.

PGR's are basically roids for plants. Most have been banned in the food industry.(usally linked to being carcinogenic) But because this is an unregulated market, it's the wild west and all kindsof questionable things are used in growing cannabis.

One more reason to grow your own. Know what you are consuming.