As a grower, how do you deal with incoherent/wacky state laws covering growing and possession?

[VitaMan]

This thread was originally about how to handle the grow and posession limits placed on us. It diverged into a discussion about nasty cops and related legal rights...important discussion but slightly off topic.

So to summarize the initial topic, if we exceed the stupid laws we need to be discreet, not draw attention to ourselves, seal our stashes and store them well, make edibles and concentrates, and share the harvest.

And I will add please vote locally for canna friendly candidates.

Re: bartering trading etc I can see trading for professional services can be seen as dealing but it is unclear. What if your friend who is not a pro but is handy with engines fixes your car and gets an ounce to return the favor....

 

[Frankthetank]

with engines fixes your car and gets an ounce to return the favor....

Two separate things.

Your awesome friend was nice and fixed your car.

Your friends awesome friend (you) was nice and gave him some completely legal medicine for his back pain (or whatever).

No reason for it to be reciprocal.

 

[BII]

This thread was originally about how to handle the grow and posession limits placed on us. It diverged into a discussion about nasty cops and related legal rights...important discussion but slightly off topic.

So to summarize the initial topic, if we exceed the stupid laws we need to be discreet, not draw attention to ourselves, seal our stashes and store them well, make edibles and concentrates, and share the harvest.

And I will add please vote locally for canna friendly candidates.

Re: bartering trading etc I can see trading for professional services can be seen as dealing but it is unclear. What if your friend who is not a pro but is handy with engines fixes your car and gets an ounce to return the favor....

And the original question was also about how do those growers who for some reason feel or have a need to be fully legal actually do this with their growing, such as when a state's "possession" limit far exceeds the yield from a single legal plant, much less whatever number is allowed to be grown.

Regarding "bartering trading" pot for professional services: Presuming gifting (vs. selling) is legal where you are, you gifted the pot, the services provider separately gifted his services. Both parties avoid referring to this as an exchange, trade (purchase); and don't document anything (no digital trail/records).

 

[VitaMan]

Two separate things.

Your awesome friend was nice and fixed your car.

Your friends awesome friend (you) was nice and gave him some completely legal medicine for his back pain (or whatever).

No reason for it to be reciprocal.

Good point

 

[KingRatt]

And the original question was also about how do those growers who for some reason feel or have a need to be fully legal actually do this with their growing, such as when a state's "possession" limit far exceeds the yield from a single legal plant, much less whatever number is allowed to be grown.

Regarding "bartering trading" pot for professional services: Presuming gifting (vs. selling) is legal where you are, you gifted the pot, the services provider separately gifted his services. Both parties avoid referring to this as an exchange, trade (purchase); and don't document anything (no digital trail/records).

I do my best to follow CA state law on all laws regarding cultivation of cannabis i.e. no more than 6 flowering or 12 vegging plants. Size doesnt matter. But i do my best to follow cultivation laws because they are new amd i wamt them to succeed. Also cultivation laws have harsher penalties. Now our possession laws are ridiculous! I think itz like an oz limit or something. Those laws i find it hard to follow and really pay no mind to. Especially considering most people that face trafficking/sales for serious weight(hundreds of pounds!)here are looking at a day a pound. And i dont ever have that much weed lol. Plus i dont sell weed. Any excess is given away. So i wouldnt have scales around and such. I really personally dont cosider the possession laws at all if im being honest!

 

[Frankthetank]

I do my best to follow CA state law on all laws regarding cultivation of cannabis i.e. no more than 6 flowering or 12 vegging plants. Size doesnt matter. But i do my best to follow cultivation laws because they are new amd i wamt them to succeed. Also cultivation laws have harsher penalties. Now our possession laws are ridiculous! I think itz like an oz limit or something. Those laws i find it hard to follow and really pay no mind to. Especially considering most people that face trafficking/sales for serious weight(hundreds of pounds!)here are looking at a day a pound. And i dont ever have that much weed lol. Plus i dont sell weed. Any excess is given away. So i wouldnt have scales around and such. I really personally dont cosider the possession laws at all if im being honest!

A quick google search returned this, written by a California cannabis lawyer. Every states’ laws I’ve looked at has something similar written into it…. As I’ve been saying:


“Under Prop 64, also known as the Adult Use of Marijuana Act, adults over the age of 21 may now legally home grow between 1 and 6 marijuana plants.

They may also legally process and keep the entire harvest from said plants. However, cultivating more than six marijuana plants will remain as a drug crime under California marijuana laws.”

That second paragraph is the big one…..

Allowed to keep the harvest from your plants.


You’re all getting the possession limits (carry around, or buy from a dispo) confused as to the amount you’re allowed to own, period.

If you grow it legally, you can own it legally.

 

[Lil Dab]

Biggest thing I’ve noticed most everyone gets the amount of plants their allowed to grow wrong everyone should read there’s state’s law very carefully to see how many plants can be grown at one time.

Here in NY it’s 3 immature plants and 3 mature plants person with a max allowed of 2 adults per household making a max of 6 immature and 6 mature but I don’t know how many folks I’ve seen say they can grow 12 plants not thinking about them sexing as soon as they sex they are considered mature. Pretty sure California is very similar since NY is modeling there roll out like CA has done our laws are very similar

 

[BII]

Allowed to keep the harvest from your plants.....If you grow it legally, you can own it legally.

So in CA a grower can have a stash of a good number of pounds sitting around your home? Say harvest 6 indoor plants, 4x annually, get 3.5 oz./plant and have a stash of 1 years worth = 84 oz. = 7 pounds. But in CA I presume many grow outdoors and get >1 lb./plant or even more? If assume 6 plants x 4 grows/year x 1 lb./plant = 24 pounds. A household could have that much (or more) without getting busted or it?

For ex., say you are not home and a fire (or mud slide, flood, toxic gas leak, etc.) is approaching your property. Police enter to make sure no one is in the house (sleeping), save your pets and farm animals, etc. and they find your stash. [I presume such no-permission-granted 'trespassing' by gov't agents is fully legal here]. Once the immediate threat passes, which is more likely in CA: Are you going to be prosecuted (fine, community service or jail time)? Or will they just confiscate your stash and not charge you? Or will you eventually get your pot back with an apology?

Is this, "If you grow it legally, you can own it legally" actually in the law or is it just how things actually work?

 

[Frankthetank]

So in CA a grower can have a stash of a good number of pounds sitting around your home? Say harvest 6 indoor plants, 4x annually, get 3.5 oz./plant and have a stash of 1 years worth = 84 oz. = 7 pounds. But in CA I presume many grow outdoors and get >1 lb./plant or even more? If assume 6 plants x 4 grows/year x 1 lb./plant = 24 pounds. A household could have that much (or more) without getting busted or it?

For ex., say you are not home and a fire (or mud slide, flood, toxic gas leak, etc.) is approaching your property. Police enter to make sure no one is in the house (sleeping), save your pets and farm animals, etc. and they find your stash. [I presume such no-permission-granted 'trespassing' by gov't agents is fully legal here]. Once the immediate threat passes, which is more likely in CA: Are you going to be prosecuted (fine, community service or jail time)? Or will they just confiscate your stash and not charge you? Or will you eventually get your pot back with an apology?

Is this, "If you grow it legally, you can own it legally" actually in the law or is it just how things actually work?

All I can tell you is what the law states. In any and every hypothetical situation…. I always, and I do mean always…. Take a hypothetical helicopter to a hypothetical tropical island and live there in peace.

 

[WildBill]

All I can tell you is what the law states. In any and every hypothetical situation…. I always, and I do mean always…. Take a hypothetical helicopter to a hypothetical tropical island and live there in peace.