Indoor GreenBean's Grows
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Looks like I’m going to need to get a little medicated tonight and pull the plants out of the 4x4 and do some heavy, interior and lower defoliation. Sherb will be the main one. There’s a lot of leaves and fruits in the space now. Which is great, but could lead to issues down the road.
Just an update on the regiment I've got going on now. It has obviously changed since the very start of this thread. Probably a long read.
Tents: Indoors - Gorilla Shorty 4x2 which is now becoming my seedling/staging tent. Outdoors - Gorilla Lite Line 4x4.
Nutes: FloraFlex. Very, very occasional Recharge. Little Silica here and there.
Lights: 4x2 - Atreum 3 bar LED array w/ 320W Meanwell. 4x4 - Atreum 4 bar LED array w/ 480w Meanwell. Both fully dimmable, etc. LOVE THEM.
Pot size. Sherb is in a 10 gallon as my bigger pot = bigger plant experiment. Sage Scout and Strawberry Nuggets are in 5's - both could go much bigger in a 7, or 10. Glue Sniffer and AMR are in 7's. Which is probably my favorite size pot. 10 gallon is nutty! 5 is cool for the smaller strains, but requires constant monitoring of water for me. Sometimes I do feel lazy.
Light cycle: 6PM - 12PM. So on at night, off during the mid-day times. Works best for year round, for me.
PAR/PPFD. Right now in the 4x2 it's right around 500. In the 4x4 I'm at 1000.
Light height: 4x2 = 24". 4x4 = 18".
CO2? I made a homemade CO2 - yeast bomb on my last run and yielded a 15 oz GSC. So I have zero way to monitor the PPM of the CO2, I'm not buying a meter....yet. But superstition is science, sometimes. 4x2 has a Pro CO2 canister in it, and 4x4 has an Exhale 365 bag, and a yeast bomb.
If you're interested in Co2 canisters/bags. Look on eBay. I get my exhale bags from a guy who says he lives "just down the street" from the maker. And he's generally about 15% cheaper than elsewhere online. Think I got my last Exhale from him for $26 shipped? It was fresh too.
Medium: I use Mother Earth coco bricks 5 lbs, at $13 online. I puff them up with tap water and a little Cal Mag. Nothing special. Then I mix that with about 20% perlite and 10% vermiculite. Then I mix that with about 25% Happy Frog. Sometimes I will use plain old soil from my veggie garden.
Feeding: I generally feed an hour or so after lights on. I always stagger my PH between 5.9 and 6.2. PPM I will check usually once I begin upping the nutes.
Seedlings: A little recharge to start in water for the first 7 days. Maybe a little Cal Mag here and there. Then I will wean them onto about a 25% FloraFlex V1 and V2. Around Day 14, I will up it to around 40%. And so on.
Veg: Once they are on their way, then I will begin the week 1 schedule of FloraFlex No Call Mag system and pretty much stick to that the whole way through veg. It calls for 4g of V1 and V2 per gallon of water, but I will monitor the leaves to see if they are getting overloaded. If I start to see bluing, I will back off to to 2g for a bit and then monitor from there. And I will usually end up around 3g of V1 and 2 it seems. I will supplement with silica about once a week. And I will recharge maybe once a week at most. Maybe once every couple weeks. I'm not totally sold on Recharge. But I have it.
Flower: Basically the same as above, but I'm on the B nutes now, and I'm generally pushing TF out of the plants to see how much they will take. So here, I'm essentially following the FlorFlex flower schedule to the mark. Haven't seen anything nutty going on yet. But I'm constantly observing my leaves.
All watering/feeding is done to about 20% runoff every time. Vac up the runoff with my shop vac and I use it on something outdoors, I like to experiment out there sometimes too.
Foliar spray: I have the Florflex V and B foliars and I've never been a big user of sprays indoors. But I have been toying with these since I have them. I see no negative effects. But can't 100% say that it's a game changer either.
Flushes? Case by case basis, but if I see a need to flush, I will run a 10% nute solution through. Vac it up, and done.
Training: You can read back through the thread. But I will first generally top at the 5th or 6th node no matter the age. But I do try to do it as soon as possible. I'll do a little bending and tying/pinning here and there a few days after topping, and once they start holding the shape I like, I will remove the ties and let them grow vertical. They sort of form a "crown" shape that I like. Once they are big enough, I will tie the branches to the pot grommets and pull them wider as the plant gets bigger.
Grommets: I install them myself so I can have the spacing I like. Sounds like a PITA, but it's really not. I can grommet a pot in 10-15 minutes. And I use the soft garden wire for all tying/pinning/grommeting.
Defoliation? Yes. Once the plant starts showing me what she's going to provide, then I will generally clear the lower, and inner canopies the whole way through. Any small buds at the bottoms that are plainly going to be a waste of the plant's time, get stripped as well.
Don't be afraid to experiment is my motto. Enjoy the ride!
Think that's about it. Maybe some of the above will help others?
Tents: Indoors - Gorilla Shorty 4x2 which is now becoming my seedling/staging tent. Outdoors - Gorilla Lite Line 4x4.
Nutes: FloraFlex. Very, very occasional Recharge. Little Silica here and there.
Lights: 4x2 - Atreum 3 bar LED array w/ 320W Meanwell. 4x4 - Atreum 4 bar LED array w/ 480w Meanwell. Both fully dimmable, etc. LOVE THEM.
Pot size. Sherb is in a 10 gallon as my bigger pot = bigger plant experiment. Sage Scout and Strawberry Nuggets are in 5's - both could go much bigger in a 7, or 10. Glue Sniffer and AMR are in 7's. Which is probably my favorite size pot. 10 gallon is nutty! 5 is cool for the smaller strains, but requires constant monitoring of water for me. Sometimes I do feel lazy.
Light cycle: 6PM - 12PM. So on at night, off during the mid-day times. Works best for year round, for me.
PAR/PPFD. Right now in the 4x2 it's right around 500. In the 4x4 I'm at 1000.
Light height: 4x2 = 24". 4x4 = 18".
CO2? I made a homemade CO2 - yeast bomb on my last run and yielded a 15 oz GSC. So I have zero way to monitor the PPM of the CO2, I'm not buying a meter....yet. But superstition is science, sometimes. 4x2 has a Pro CO2 canister in it, and 4x4 has an Exhale 365 bag, and a yeast bomb.
If you're interested in Co2 canisters/bags. Look on eBay. I get my exhale bags from a guy who says he lives "just down the street" from the maker. And he's generally about 15% cheaper than elsewhere online. Think I got my last Exhale from him for $26 shipped? It was fresh too.
Medium: I use Mother Earth coco bricks 5 lbs, at $13 online. I puff them up with tap water and a little Cal Mag. Nothing special. Then I mix that with about 20% perlite and 10% vermiculite. Then I mix that with about 25% Happy Frog. Sometimes I will use plain old soil from my veggie garden.
Feeding: I generally feed an hour or so after lights on. I always stagger my PH between 5.9 and 6.2. PPM I will check usually once I begin upping the nutes.
Seedlings: A little recharge to start in water for the first 7 days. Maybe a little Cal Mag here and there. Then I will wean them onto about a 25% FloraFlex V1 and V2. Around Day 14, I will up it to around 40%. And so on.
Veg: Once they are on their way, then I will begin the week 1 schedule of FloraFlex No Call Mag system and pretty much stick to that the whole way through veg. It calls for 4g of V1 and V2 per gallon of water, but I will monitor the leaves to see if they are getting overloaded. If I start to see bluing, I will back off to to 2g for a bit and then monitor from there. And I will usually end up around 3g of V1 and 2 it seems. I will supplement with silica about once a week. And I will recharge maybe once a week at most. Maybe once every couple weeks. I'm not totally sold on Recharge. But I have it.
Flower: Basically the same as above, but I'm on the B nutes now, and I'm generally pushing TF out of the plants to see how much they will take. So here, I'm essentially following the FlorFlex flower schedule to the mark. Haven't seen anything nutty going on yet. But I'm constantly observing my leaves.
All watering/feeding is done to about 20% runoff every time. Vac up the runoff with my shop vac and I use it on something outdoors, I like to experiment out there sometimes too.
Foliar spray: I have the Florflex V and B foliars and I've never been a big user of sprays indoors. But I have been toying with these since I have them. I see no negative effects. But can't 100% say that it's a game changer either.
Flushes? Case by case basis, but if I see a need to flush, I will run a 10% nute solution through. Vac it up, and done.
Training: You can read back through the thread. But I will first generally top at the 5th or 6th node no matter the age. But I do try to do it as soon as possible. I'll do a little bending and tying/pinning here and there a few days after topping, and once they start holding the shape I like, I will remove the ties and let them grow vertical. They sort of form a "crown" shape that I like. Once they are big enough, I will tie the branches to the pot grommets and pull them wider as the plant gets bigger.
Grommets: I install them myself so I can have the spacing I like. Sounds like a PITA, but it's really not. I can grommet a pot in 10-15 minutes. And I use the soft garden wire for all tying/pinning/grommeting.
Defoliation? Yes. Once the plant starts showing me what she's going to provide, then I will generally clear the lower, and inner canopies the whole way through. Any small buds at the bottoms that are plainly going to be a waste of the plant's time, get stripped as well.
Don't be afraid to experiment is my motto. Enjoy the ride!
Think that's about it. Maybe some of the above will help others?
Lookin stellar brotherman!!!
Thank you.
Thanks for the rep @420Forever !
FYI folks. This is what I use to feed in a larger tent when shit starts getting cramped, or I want to run a scrog.
Just a simple $15 pond pump in a panty hose and about 10’ of 1/2” tubing. It’s a true sanity saver.
Just a simple $15 pond pump in a panty hose and about 10’ of 1/2” tubing. It’s a true sanity saver.
I decided to take last night “off”. No plants, no internet, no beer, nothing. I checked pot weight and decided that they go could go till morning. Sometimes I like to randomly feed before lights out. Seems like they’ll put on some nice growth afterwards. Again, sometimes superstition is science. At least for me. Anyway, pulled Nugs and Sage Scout out did some lower canopy cleaning and a little more grommeting to level their canopies a bit more. And that gave me enough room to get in the tent to work on Sherb.
Strawberry Nuggets:
Sage Scout:
Sherb:
Family portrait, getting cramped:
Strawberry Nuggets:
Sage Scout:
Sherb:
Family portrait, getting cramped:
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