FD's Guide to Growing Hefty Autos in Small Places.

Ok guys i have been dragging my knuckles on this for too long. This thread will be dedicated to my actual grow technique. I will have everything in here from the way i germ seeds to the way i harvest and everything in between.

ill cover my soil mixes, teas, water adjustments, feeding schedules as well as the recipes for the soil and teas that i use. My goal is to teach how to grow the bud lumps you see in the small pots i use. I feel if you use this you may have the same success that i do when it comes to autos in small places.

Bare with me as i will update this on the regular, but will be locking it to get it all organized.

 

[GoTgReEn]

Hey jus got my bubbler and air stone im using tap water which is at ph 7.3! My problem is after i ph the water to 6.5 leave it a while it gies bk to the original Ph of 7.3 is this gunna be a problem using biobizz all-mix! Should i ph to 6.5 wait an hour and then feed to plants? Please any advie would be great! First auto grow 3 afghan kush ryder under 400w mh/hps

 

[AndyBotwin]

Hey jus got my bubbler and air stone im using tap water which is at ph 7.3! My problem is after i ph the water to 6.5 leave it a while it gies bk to the original Ph of 7.3 is this gunna be a problem using biobizz all-mix! Should i ph to 6.5 wait an hour and then feed to plants? Please any advie would be great! First auto grow 3 afghan kush ryder under 400w mh/hps

Hey Dalyboy, I have a similar situation with my tap water. You can Google it and find lots of speculation on why it occurs, but my only concern was dealing with how it might affect my grow. My method is to not pH the solution until just before I give it to the plants. If you want to add the nutes and then let then let it continue to bubble for a while that's fine, but I would not adjust pH until you're ready to pour, otherwise you'll probably have to do it again. Once I started doing this with my last grow, I had no more issues with pH swings.

One other variable is that temperature can affect pH. Often tap water is colder than room temperature, so I never do any testing until the water has reached the same temp that it will be when I give it to the plants.

 

[GoTgReEn]

Hey Dalyboy, I have a similar situation with my tap water. You can Google it and find lots of speculation on why it occurs, but my only concern was dealing with how it might affect my grow. My method is to not pH the solution until just before I give it to the plants. If you want to add the nutes and then let then let it continue to bubble for a while that's fine, but I would not adjust pH until you're ready to pour, otherwise you'll probably have to do it again. Once I started doing this with my last grow, I had no more issues with pH swings.

One other variable is that temperature can affect pH. Often tap water is colder than room temperature, so I never do any testing until the water has reached the same temp that it will be when I give it to the plants.

thanks for the speedy reply! thats exactly what i have done left it for half hor then feed it to my ladies! hopefully it wont spike th Ph! I am also doing a comparison hrow with a 11ltr sqaure pot and a 10 ltr airpot so im hoping the bubbled water will boost the airpot even more she is doing better than the other already!!

 

[ganjafarmah]

Thanks for this great info. I figured that there was a suitable alternative to purchasing the PH up/down. Sorry if I sound like a dork by being completely blown away by this probably common information. I am a complete NOOB!...soon to be VET though! :thumbs:

 

[d0t]

What a great thread for my first post, ill be pulling up a chair from now on. very valued information thanks to the OP, i myself after reading this will be incorporating Water The Key into my garden(s) in future.
thanks again FD for this post.

 

[Auto king]

Do forgive my ignorance, but with this "oxygenated" co2 water, are you talking about watering with nutrient feed or without nutrient feed?

 

[Eschatos]

Auto king, I believe is with or without nutrients. By the way, you meant O2, not CO2, right?

 

[AndyBotwin]

Auto king, I believe is with or without nutrients. By the way, you meant O2, not CO2, right?

Correct. The idea behind bubbling the water is to get more oxygen to the roots, and it works with or without nutes.

 

[Pyxis]

I've been wondering about this for a while. Can anyone tell me if oxygen saturated water holds it's oxygen when sealed inside an an airtight container? I bubble a 25l bottle but don't require it all at once. Thanks in advance for any advice

 

[Dankbudds]

This is my first post. I found this site yesterday after searching the internet day in and day out trying to find information as good as this. There is no thread in any other forum better than this. The information provided by this man is the best youll ever see, in my eyes anyway. I was looking for information, but now its overload. I think I like overload. So hold on one second and let me give you this... VERY VERY VERY :thread:

Ok so Im new to this growing thing and thought about incorporationg some methods I use for my fish tanks but opposite. Opposite meaning all plants are already under water. so getting oxygen to the medium is harder. I have all south american fish so tds, gh, kh, ammonia have to be nonexistant. The PH levels have to be very acidic for these fish so living in a city environment can be a pain in the ass. The tabs and the dropper testers are ok but not that accurate. I have a tap water purifier for my tanks. its about 60 bucks and was probably the best investment I could have bought. My ph levels from tap went from 8.0-8.5 with tds ranging from 500-800, to 6.0-6.5 and tds ranges from 0 to 10. Its very hard to get an accurate reading of the ph because everything is out of the water. Ive added electrolites to stabilize the ph levels to arounf 6.5. Ive used this for 1 plant as an experiment under cfls and worked ok. the only thing i left out was the electrolites. I didnt know how the plant was going to react to something used to stabilize water for fish. also my kh and gh levels went from 100 to 0. Happy fish....but happy plants? 1 more thing, chlorine is nonexistant also. You can get about 75 gallons out of this before changing out the filter. The container is transparent so you can actually see the material inside the container trapping all the tds as time progresses. the dirstions tell you when its time to change the filter due the color. Still what about oxygen?...

Im still a little confused on using a airstones to oxgenate water but I do it anyway just to make me feel better. This brings me to something that ive been thinking about for awile now. H2O2...hydrogen peroxide....

All it is, is pretty much ozone. Been taking some refridgeration classes and learned alot about this. people have been using H2O2 for years for self healing. Now using it for your plants maybe a little different. Ever see the ground after a rain storm? It kind of has this haze to it. also you can smell it. before or after it rains you can tell what rain smells like, thats ozone or h2o2. If you notice the grass looks REALLY green. I figure by adding some hydrogen peroxide to your water will put that "extra" oxygen molecule out there for whatever to use. So can this be done instead of using an airstone? Of course moderation...

Another thing I had a question about..
Do you use your "tea" instead of the other nutes that are out there? I was also confused on how you split the gallons. From what I read (i tried to work today..lol) you mix it all together and then drain the water into 2 different gallon jugs? Then add the rest water?...I was kind of confused...

Again,
Thank you very much for this awsome thread....