Establishing Credibility Guidelines for Breeders

[Son of Hobbes]

what i'd like is a venue to sell seeds through!

Have you looked at Strainly's platform? Alan with Strainly seems like a pretty straight shooter and I see it popping up more and more, just honestly haven't talked to anyone that's USED it to buy or sell.

 

[SOOTDAWG]

We just now got over an incident going through the auto flower groups on Facebook ( yes just a lil while ago) where a certain breeder or so-called breeder (reseller) Instigated a full spam session to all the grow groups associated with them over a little fight over a seed sale..... or once seeds got to the person and that person complained and they had proof but it’s usually vice versa 99 to 1 . this is not good business ethics and it’s been brought forth on this form before with this reseller GB (breederlofl).......It’s the new growers getting happy over a few extra seeds..some pretty pictures and some magical name made up for resale.......We have thousands of people thinking these people are legitimate breeders and backin their names............Lately with our Facebook group ive been adding more members as I’ve been dropping links everywhere.....We’ve been getting more of those post and share giveaways being posted that I’ve had to remove.... onelovegenetics is going to town...on their resells

 

[Sour D]

Seems to me at this point - carry on as you have been doing. I think the whole market place, at least in the States is too volatile. You can have some of the most creative people that are the nicest guys but they may not be here tomorrow cause they are lousy business people---most creatives at anything are, You've got the big companies who are already jumping through the individual states hoops and regulations who "should" be reputable but here again the marketplace is so volatile, those with deep pockets may not be here tomorrow.
Personally, like @Dichoti I'll be sticking with the folks who already have a proven track record.
That said, coming up with some sort of plan for when things calm down a bit is a good idea.

@Olderfart , "in fairness, testing has to be done by growers who have proven that they know what they are doing. " I think you also need to give it to those who don't know what they are doing cause they are the ones that will find a weakness because they don't know any better.
I had some friends that worked in a traveling petting zoo. They had a chimpanzee and a standing bet of $500 that you couldn't put a toy in the cage and have it last more than 5 minutes. They constantly had major toy manufacturers like Tonka etc stop by with toy prototypes to see if it would hold up. They never paid out the $500.
My $2------$.02 adjusted for inflation

 

[Dabber]

just honestly haven't talked to anyone that's USED it to buy or sell.

I think Rocbud was on Strainly and no longer is I believe

 

[Olderfart]

Seems to me at this point - carry on as you have been doing. I think the whole market place, at least in the States is too volatile. You can have some of the most creative people that are the nicest guys but they may not be here tomorrow cause they are lousy business people---most creatives at anything are, You've got the big companies who are already jumping through the individual states hoops and regulations who "should" be reputable but here again the marketplace is so volatile, those with deep pockets may not be here tomorrow.
Personally, like @Dichoti I'll be sticking with the folks who already have a proven track record.
That said, coming up with some sort of plan for when things calm down a bit is a good idea.

@Olderfart , "in fairness, testing has to be done by growers who have proven that they know what they are doing. " I think you also need to give it to those who don't know what they are doing cause they are the ones that will find a weakness because they don't know any better.
I had some friends that worked in a traveling petting zoo. They had a chimpanzee and a standing bet of $500 that you couldn't put a toy in the cage and have it last more than 5 minutes. They constantly had major toy manufacturers like Tonka etc stop by with toy prototypes to see if it would hold up. They never paid out the $500.
My $2------$.02 adjusted for inflation

Your $2 - Hardy Har Har!

I hear you on the need to try seeds with noobs like me as well, but I think a few growers that know what they are doing would be the first priority - it would be unfortunate and unfair for a good breeder to get damaging feedback from some incompetent who screwed up a grow in spite of good genetics. Once we know what good growing can produce, moving on to how seeds handle screwups would be a good continuation. Hey, I already did my bit torturing some Mephisto beans... And I gotta say, they took it like champs. Mephisto!

 

[pop22]

Thanks, I'll take a look!

Have you looked at Strainly's platform? Alan with Strainly seems like a pretty straight shooter and I see it popping up more and more, just honestly haven't talked to anyone that's USED it to buy or sell.

 

[1trickcomanche]

Any breeder should be able to show the Pedigree of their lines. If infact they did create them. Every breeder should be proud of the work they have done and should have Documentation of it like photos of at least the parents of the lines. Any breeder that is not transparent in how they got to where they are makes me question there integrety. Talk is cheap. Im no Profesional Breeder my slef but I take pride in my work. Another thing is Customer service. That Has to be Top Notch.

 

[DragonSeeds]

Hey guys, happy to sponsor some grows, just let me know who is interested and what they would like to try out and we'll take it from there. Willing to cooperate with any and all and if you have questions by all means ask away!

 

[Trichome farmer]

Hey guys, happy to sponsor some grows, just let me know who is interested and what they would like to try out and we'll take it from there. Willing to cooperate with any and all and if you have questions by all means ask away!

hey dragon seeds hows it going look forward to seeing some of your strains grown here on afn heres a quick question what would you say is your biggest baddest strain and which one of your strains would you say is more suited to the experienced grower not for the novice

 

[Yourmom]

My biggest gripe is with the utter lack of proffessionalism exhibited in customer service by certain companies, several of which are promoted on this site.

I found my self this last year unfortunate to experience some truely awful and unforgivably arrogant amateurism by companies who simply seem incapable of providing a basic level of acceptable service.

As a result i now feel it would help the sector enourmously to have big companies (the very thing I always wanted to stay out of this industry)to set the standards for delivery and communication.

As we move out of the shadows, its time the resellers stop blaiming their incompetence on third parties and the 'secrecy' of the sector. If you cant provide efficient turn around of orders then get out of the game.if you cant keep your stock manifest up to date and sycnhed with your web site, begone. We are the customer and throwing out a few free beans to cover your ongoing mistakes is not a solution. Hire more staff, update your proceedures do what it takes or watch everything you worked towards crumble and disintegrate, because this shoddy behaviour will not gain you,loyalty, and as more competent players emerge, i for one suffer no misguided sense of loyalty to you and will opt to spend my hard earned green with those that have their shit together.