Breeding etiquette


i understand whats in the link you posted , what i didnt understand is what you had posted/typed

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Lol yeah man I meant plant. I've seen strains, not from seed banks but strains that growers have worked to a level of consistency where they all grow uniformly if all seeds come from one mother plant which was seeded by one father.

Strains tho... has nobody else ever seen a weed grow from seed with only one phenotype? Takes years but... Mendo Purps? Lavender? Orange Crush? norcal Purple Kush?

like, plant an alder point seed and It will be light and fluffy and fruity and grow like the females next to it.

i can't name a breeder who sells a strain like that off the top of my head, probably because they haven't just worked that strain for 20 years like has happened with some of these classics.

hope that helped, answer being most definitely yes there are old school strains with only one pheno because they have been back worked so long

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lol thats rude, it's clearly not common sense haha like by definition


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agreed. Isolate and work he pheno until it is guaranteed from seed then you can name.

thing is, with CBD strains like cannatonic and sour tsunami, the significance of that cut is the high CBD. There is 1:4 chance of getting the CBD cut of sour tsunami. So, if you were to revert a clone and backbreed fem seeds... Pretty relevant which one it is. Still, I prefer labeling as "sour tsunami CBD cut" "sour tsunami super sour cut" etc

it is common sense and wasnt meant to be rude , the common sense is you are taking (female strain) and crossing it with (male strain) , see the common sense ? female crossed with male

dunno how to spell it out any clearer

peace
 
i understand whats in the link you posted , what i didnt understand is what you had posted/typed

peace

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it is common sense and wasnt meant to be rude , the common sense is you are taking (female strain) and crossing it with (male strain) , see the common sense ? female crossed with male

dunno how to spell it out any clearer

peace


K first of all i know, (female) x (male) but I am aware that it is not common sense for all, as is evident by some posters. Maybe some people have had a strain for a long time, got a male, dusted a new strain and view it that way. You're plenty clear with your explanation, and plenty rude with the common sense comment.

as for strains with a single phenotype, meaning no recognizable differences between the plants... If we aren't counting the obvious difference in gender, well then I provided for you clearly, and you said you already knew, that this happens around f6-f8.

dunno how to spell it out any more clear.

peace
 
K first of all i know, (female) x (male) but I am aware that it is not common sense for all, as is evident by some posters. Maybe some people have had a strain for a long time, got a male, dusted a new strain and view it that way. You're plenty clear with your explanation, and plenty rude with the common sense comment.

as for strains with a single phenotype, meaning no recognizable differences between the plants... If we aren't counting the obvious difference in gender, well then I provided for you clearly, and you said you already knew, that this happens around f6-f8.

dunno how to spell it out any more clear.

peace

dude what you clearly typed was different phenos per "plant" ive never seen a plant grow one pheno on one branch and another pheno on another branch , thats why i questioned what you meant

For me, if you have more than two phenos coming from one plant then you didn't breed anything. You just made some seeds.

notice it now ?

just because "some" people do not realise its female X male does NOT mean it is not common sense

no need getting all worked up because you mistakenly thought i was being rude

id appreciate it if you would chill out a bit as im doing my best to remain calm with you

peace
 
My b0b your feeling nice tonight! Going to buy a lottery ticket! :rofl: :rofl:

@horfvitdown did you not see the tag under b0b name?

"Cranky Old Fart" you know vs the new just came out stinking the place up... B0b is a classic classy fart ;) :grin:

horfvitdown here you go:
http://www.gobookee.org/marijuana-botany-clarke/


That is a link to a most excellent book! It's a bit wordy and without a little science background might be a bit hard to read but none the less it will explain things so well to you... I'm still going thru (lol don't get to far as I keep re reading what I read to understand and know it better)

Edit: DOH the book is Marijuana Botany (like first and or second link), btw I'm Yoda a crazy ass pain fart :bong: ;) :rofl:
:Sharing One:
 
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BoB's a great guy know's his shit and aint afraid to say what he thinks. A trait that is diein these days.
 
dude what you clearly typed was different phenos per "plant" ive never seen a plant grow one pheno on one branch and another pheno on another branch , thats why i questioned what you meant



notice it now ?

just because "some" people do not realise its female X male does NOT mean it is not common sense

no need getting all worked up because you mistakenly thought i was being rude

id appreciate it if you would chill out a bit as im doing my best to remain calm with you

peace


Lol I shoulda spelled it more clearly I guess.
this is a thread about breeding. So, when I say "more than one pheno coming from a plant" i specifically meant in seed form.
obviously I didn't mean separate clones, and I should think common sense would have clarified that so I didn't feel I needed to. Clearly you either knew what I meant or felt like you had more of an argumentative stance in semantics over asking me politely to clarify.
you respond to my words without inference. And I responded in kind.


not trying to start an argument dude, I respect your knowledge. Any sarcasm picked up from my end is just because I know how to deal with cranky old farts without getting all worked up.


still, when a new grower comes into a forum like this and asks a very relevant question, and the response is a snappy answer stating that the noob should have known that without asking because it was common sense. That's rude. Female x male does not seem common sense to me, it seems an educated statement. It's really a 50/50 guess if you don't know already. How is it common sense to not list the oldest first, or the most stable or familiar strain? What if you view the world as pollen to impregnate with and not pretty buds that can have seeds put in them?


i guess my point is, if you pay enough attention to people, there is not a lot of common sense, so when common sense can answer a question but someone still asks it, then the question clearly is not answered by common sense OR the person doesn't have any. Either way, telling them to use the common sense that clearly isn't there is along the same lines of simply replying by telling someone to be more educated. That's what they were trying to do.


im only pointing this out because I'd hate it if this forum became as unfriendly to new people with questions as some of the other similar online forums.


btw, pheno being the outward appearance of the plant based on physical observation and not genes... I have seen two phenos on one plant. Buds form differently in different environments regardless of where the roots are. I know thats some next level weed growing shit but yeah I have seen a root mass in one room, branches fed into three different rooms with different humidity, light and temps, and dense was definitely affected. Really, nobody else on here has ever done that to test effects of temp and light penetration to lower buds??? Why do you think they are all fluffy and stuff compared to the larger buds? That actually leads to the point that observable phenos could be argues to exist on every single weed plant because the lower popcorn pretty much is never identical in structure and resin production to the colas.


either way, didn't mean to stir you up.I think you were rude when answering a question about breeding. If someone asked "when do i flush my auto" then Muddy makes a thread, clarifies they probably mean "cleansing" and directs them politely to the answer. He doesn't say "he leaves change color, common sense".


sorry if I upset you my pointing out how rude that seems to me, I think I'm entitled to that opinion though. I still ink that was rude, if you don't want to talk about it anymore then stop trying to say that wasn't rude from some people's perspective.

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My b0b your feeling nice tonight! Going to buy a lottery ticket! :rofl: :rofl:

@horfvitdown did you not see the tag under b0b name?

"Cranky Old Fart" you know vs the new just came out stinking the place up... B0b is a classic classy fart ;) :grin:

horfvitdown here you go:
http://www.gobookee.org/marijuana-botany-clarke/


That is a link to a most excellent book! It's a bit wordy and without a little science background might be a bit hard to read but none the less it will explain things so well to you... I'm still going thru (lol don't get to far as I keep re reading what I read to understand and know it better)

Edit: DOH the book is Marijuana Botany (like first and or second link), btw I'm Yoda a crazy ass pain fart :bong: ;) :rofl:
:Sharing One:

lmao yeah yoda that book is awesome.

i am a young fart, but still plenty cranky. Just don't like noobs getting scared off, that could be the next Jack Herrer

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My b0b your feeling nice tonight! Going to buy a lottery ticket! :rofl: :rofl:

@horfvitdown did you not see the tag under b0b name?

"Cranky Old Fart" you know vs the new just came out stinking the place up... B0b is a classic classy fart ;) :grin:

horfvitdown here you go:
http://www.gobookee.org/marijuana-botany-clarke/


That is a link to a most excellent book! It's a bit wordy and without a little science background might be a bit hard to read but none the less it will explain things so well to you... I'm still going thru (lol don't get to far as I keep re reading what I read to understand and know it better)

Edit: DOH the book is Marijuana Botany (like first and or second link), btw I'm Yoda a crazy ass pain fart :bong: ;) :rofl:
:Sharing One:

lmao yeah yoda that book is awesome. Thanks btw for posting the links. Way good.

i am a young fart, but still plenty cranky. Just don't like noobs getting scared off, that could be the next Jack Herrer
 
dude you still didnt make sense as to your original post , i did not in fact know what you were trying to say , if you were actually saying more then one pheno from ONE plant itself , not the actual strain but a single plant , thats how your post looked to me and why i questioned it

as for the rest , i stand my ground in saying it was not meant rudely in any way , you are working it up to more then it was/is , and i did not say to anyone to use common sence , just said it is common sence , it does not take everyone in a situation to have it be common

peace ?
 
BoB's a great guy know's his shit and aint afraid to say what he thinks. A trait that is diein these days.


Lol just to be clear I'm not trying to bash bob, I value his posts and knowledge!
just saying what I think. That was a rude response that was both unsolicited and unnecessary.
i also didn't know that once, it is a basic science question and definitively NOT intuitive.

im gonna burn one for all yall tho, hope I cleared up what I meant and @bob I hope no hard feelings. As a self proclaimed cranky old fart i honestly didn't expect that to bother you much and I apologize if it did. Would have phrased it more politely but I didn't expect more than a chuckle from you and maybe a silly emoticon lol:jaw:

Love all you guys and appreciate everything I get from here...

just need to keep it welcoming and inviting to noobs imho

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dude you still didnt make sense as to your original post , i did not in fact know what you were trying to say , if you were actually saying more then one pheno from ONE plant itself , not the actual strain but a single plant , thats how your post looked to me and why i questioned it

as for the rest , i stand my ground in saying it was not meant rudely in any way

peace ?

lol if I could send an emoti-hug I would.
we both could have spelled it all out better haha fuckin cranky stoners.

im sure you didn't mean to be rude bro! I've read enough of your posts to feel like you didn't mean it that way, just wanted to stick up for the noobs a little but really man I apologize for letting all that get steered towards "bob is rude".

i only meant there was probably a more welcoming way to answer that. I figured you'd be like "well sure but screw em haha".

really meant no offense
 
Lol just to be clear I'm not trying to bash bob, I value his posts and knowledge!
just saying what I think. That was a rude response that was both unsolicited and unnecessary.
i also didn't know that once, it is a basic science question and definitively NOT intuitive.

im gonna burn one for all yall tho, hope I cleared up what I meant and @bob I hope no hard feelings. As a self proclaimed cranky old fart i honestly didn't expect that to bother you much and I apologize if it did. Would have phrased it more politely but I didn't expect more than a chuckle from you and maybe a silly emoticon lol:jaw:

Love all you guys and appreciate everything I get from here...

just need to keep it welcoming and inviting to noobs imho

im not in the best health right now and more blunt then humorous due to it

no worries though as most things posted get misinterpreted due to not physically being face to face and seeing what emotion is actually happening

peace

edit, haha i just noticed someone changed my title to "part time"

haha peace
 
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