Grow Mediums AFN Communal Autopot Test Summer 2018

[Unique]

I’m in the NOT flushing crowd. Why starve your plants when they need it the most? Some talk about the taste or ash burning a certain way, and I say BS, cure your weed properly and it will taste amazing and burn beautifully.

to each their own man, what you may like someone else may not and just because you may not notice a difference doesn't mean others can't!

 

[pop22]

Actually, their lab tests prove exactly what I've been saying, flushing causes the plant sacrifice itself to FEED the buds. The levels of the most easily transportable nutrients goes UP in the buds. Unless you starve the plant long enough for the buds to die, you accomplish nothing.

And as to their comment about bud tasting like burning hair, well we all know many hydro growers think that when to comes to nutrients, more is better and too much is just enough, THEN they ad 15 other nutes they don't need! It would take weeks of "flushing" to get rid of all the crap they've fed them. Some of the best DWC growers I've seen run LOW nutrients, usually around 600 - 650 ppms. No need to flush buds grown with a little common sense.

Flushing is a total waste of time and and damaging to the plant. Science, plant biology, explains why. And of course a nutrient company will try to convince you otherwise, how else can they sell you "flushing agents" ( now you really are putting Chems in your plants! )........

I've done several grows of organic and nutrient solution side by side and have long offered a bet that no one can tell the difference. Many have tried, no one has ever been able to tell. Flushing is just an old, hippie myth.

Can’t copy and paste the text so here’s the link.
https://manicbotanix.com/hydroponic-nutrient-science/
Click on the last topic and it will go straight to the chapter, or you can scroll down up to you. Good info, kind of straddles both sides of the fence.

 

[pop22]

You know, there's a modern version of "flushing" going around. Its claimed pouring boiling water into you pot to kill the roots speeds up the process........... I'm just dying to see that one catch on......

 

[pop22]

one last thing. Where is an analysis of harvestable organic bud? What nutrient levels will you find in bud grown in supersoil? Remember, the ionic form of the compounds and elements produced organically are identical to those from a bottle.

There is good science and science perverted to prove your point.

 

[HemiSync]

to each their own man, what you may like someone else may not and just because you may not notice a difference doesn't mean others can't!

I’m not sure why you seem to be taking my post to someone else personal. The OP was asking for opinions and I offered mine. Sorry if I offended you somehow.

 

[Frank Nitty]

I’m not sure why you seem to be taking my post to someone else personal. The OP was asking for opinions and I offered mine. Sorry if I offended you somehow.

That's just how it goes... Its sad...

 

[hesgone13]

If you think flushing works.....please do so.......as someone on this thread said....there are many different ways to grow herb..........but think about it for a minute.... if flushing is necessary for the reasons put forth.....why does no other crop we consume by eating, smoking, of drinking need it? Fruits, vegetables, grains and tobacco all have taste issues and are not flushed before harvest and consumption! Think of the massive amounts of fertilizer, both chemical and organic dumped on all kinds of grows every year......you don't think they would need flushing??

 

[idiopathic neuropathy]

Oh fk... not another flushing debate.... can we get back on the autopots testing please?

 

[hesgone13]

No prob! Someone asked a question.....and as usual, things evolved from there!

 

[johnp540]

Actually, their lab tests prove exactly what I've been saying, flushing causes the plant sacrifice itself to FEED the buds. The levels of the most easily transportable nutrients goes UP in the buds. Unless you starve the plant long enough for the buds to die, you accomplish nothing.

And as to their comment about bud tasting like burning hair, well we all know many hydro growers think that when to comes to nutrients, more is better and too much is just enough, THEN they ad 15 other nutes they don't need! It would take weeks of "flushing" to get rid of all the crap they've fed them. Some of the best DWC growers I've seen run LOW nutrients, usually around 600 - 650 ppms. No need to flush buds grown with a little common sense.

Flushing is a total waste of time and and damaging to the plant. Science, plant biology, explains why. And of course a nutrient company will try to convince you otherwise, how else can they sell you "flushing agents" ( now you really are putting Chems in your plants! )........

I've done several grows of organic and nutrient solution side by side and have long offered a bet that no one can tell the difference. Many have tried, no one has ever been able to tell. Flushing is just an old, hippie myth.

It’s all in the reading bud. Most elements in the flushed sample were lower some about the same, a couple a little higher. Kind of debating the same thing though. Lol like I said the reading straddles both sides of the fence. Most people do use too many nutrients, they can thrive with a lot less, in the right amounts of course. Just like cannabinoids have an entourage effect so do the nutrients, they all compliment each other.
Yes at the end of the day it is science. Some people aren’t willing to accept that. I want someone to sway my thoughts and beliefs, change my mind make me believe, as someone who’s willing to learn, I have to think like that. I used to do a two week flush, but I’ve employed a 3-5 day flush after a tapering down of nutrients, and it works for me. Sometimes I flush with plain water (most water contains some minerals), sometimes I use molasses and yucca extract or yucca alone, it’s a natural flushing agent, washing away excess salts. My thing is if it works for someone why bother, we’ve all heard it before, except for those that are just learning, then let them decide for themselves. Like I said previously it’s science and there’s always going to be supported information on both sides of the fence, hence the egg and broccoli reference lol And to be honest this guy, (from Australia I believe) does sell nutrients, not sure about a flushing agent, but he’s got a dog in the fight. It’s something I came across I thought I’d share, let people form their own opinion. Some are too biased and won’t budge, me I’m willing to learn. That’s what it’s all about.