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Also while I’m thinking I’m spending all my cash on supplies so too poor to buy extra seeds too but anyone feeling generous enough 
to kindly vote for staff drawing 8
https://www.autoflower.org/threads/draw-your-favorite-staff-member-festivus-2019.74890/
I’d greatly appreciate it! Need some free fastbuds originals to try!
Much obliged!
to kindly vote for staff drawing 8https://www.autoflower.org/threads/draw-your-favorite-staff-member-festivus-2019.74890/I’d greatly appreciate it! Need some free fastbuds originals to try!
Much obliged!
@slowandeasy Whats wrong with burying about half a solo cup with bottom removed, in middle of a 5 gallon fabric pot, thats also a final pot?
I seem to see good results. The plant stays in cup mostly for 10+ days or so, in its seedling Soil before reaching the hotter Soil. What's the detriment of doing this?
I seem to see good results. The plant stays in cup mostly for 10+ days or so, in its seedling Soil before reaching the hotter Soil. What's the detriment of doing this?
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Roots in a solo cup buried do not get the chance to grow horizontally like the should. The plant will be smaller, as they will suffer from rootbounding effects. There is zero reason to leave a seedling in a solo cup, unless you actually want your plants to be smaller. Roots need to spread out. Leaving the plant in a solo cup traps the roots, even if you cut the bottom or leave holes. A properly trsnsplanted seedling will do better than one left in a cup....100% of the time. Planting directly into the final pot is optimal, but many people lack space to do so. Autos whole life is based on root growth. Peace, slow
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Don’t get me wrong. I really do wanna understand this. What I don’t get is how they get root bound? The bottom is cut off along with a few cm of height. After I do this, I also cut a vertical line along the solo cup. This makes it easy for me to remove it if I want to, but I’ve never seen the need to. I just leave it there.
I used to just dig a hole and put seedling soil in that hole for seedlings. But I find the solo cup better to control watering. Roots only travel along the solo cup (less than 10cm?) to the abundance of soil beneath it. Do they even need such a big vertical space for first 10 days? After the 10 days or so, they have all the space they need? I always plant into the final pot. Have not seen any difference in growth with or without solo cup. I actually prefer with. But I also don’t have decades of experience so looking to be enlightened! Thanks slow bro!
Don’t quite see the need to transplant imo. What’s the difference especially with autos? A solo cup or similar sized container will hold them for 10++ days max. Then to 1 gal? Then 3 gal? Then 5? Is there an advantage to this compared to straight into final pot?Good point , I think it is a choice you make , If you have not tried transplanting give it ago .
If you grow perpetually and have a dedicated seedling/ veg area, I can see how transplanting can save space and aid in transitioning. If you like to grow many seeds/ clones and pick the best, I get that too! Maybe even with photos as their size can/ may get outta control. Other than that, am I missing something?
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I am the type of person that says that if you are happy with your results, that is all that matters. Autoflowers whole life is linked to roots. When you bury a Solo cup, the roots do not get a chance to branch out horizontally. You are forcing them downward only, until the cup opens. So the upper portion of the pot doesn to have a root system like a fully transplanted seedling or a direct planted seedling. I am not saying your method doesnt work. If it works best for you, keep doing what you are doing. I understand it is easier for your watering, but if you transplant instead water around the OUTSIDE of your pot. The soil will wick and roots will seek moisture horizontally first. That is what you want. If you water right by the stem, the roots willl not grow as fast and will be thinner. If you water around the outside, the roots grow much faster and thicker. Having cloned thousands of cuttings, I have a massive amount of experience with root growth. Proper moisture is the key to rapid root growth. If you have a cup buried, Ibam assuming that you are watering your Cup during the first 2 weeks? If so this is backwards. Watering by the stem is counterproductive to root developement. Good luckx peace slow
Not doubting your experience for a second! I just wanna learn. Like I said, all your opinions matter to me.
I understand about roots needing horizontal space. What I don’t understand is, does it really need a horizontal space larger than the solo cup for its first 10 days or so? If this is the case, wouldn’t all seedling containers be a foot wide? How different is this from someone transplanting a seedling from a 500ml container? With the cup, I get to maintain moisture easier and it wicks into the soil, making overwatering unlikely. It also directs the roots towards the soil below where there is more moisture. The cup dries out faster than soil under it, driving roots downwards and then expands in all directions. Isn’t that what we want? Sounds exactly like what you mentioned too? So why is it bad again?
Why wouldn’t the top part of cup have the same root system as a transplanted seedling? Before transplant, the seedling has the exact amount of room as the one buried. In fact, there is risk of transplanting too late but when you bury it, there isnt.
In hydro, a similar process with net pots but actually makes the plant stronger? With cups showing a bit from soil, I can even see exactly how moist it is.
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