Mephisto Genetics White Crack and Kis Organics Soil

[slowandeasy]

Here’s my newest - 2 1/2 days old - Gotta say I love this 6500k T5 for starts - I get enough heat from light with dome on and light above dome few inches and then I direct a fan to blow on dome and light and I’m able to keep plant in the 83-86 range day or nite and plant seems to respond very well to the 6500k.color - Sour Livers

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Hey MOB, I have a handful of 6500k Cobs. I like to run a mixed spectrum, typically 4 to1. For flower an example, I put a 6500k in the middle and one in each corner of a 4x4 tent. 55 watts each. For veg I like 2 6500k to every 1 3500k.

 

[slowandeasy]

Just finished planting 2 more seeds. They were ready, I had a really nice tail. So there are 6 new ones all together. 4 are a SAG Mystery Mix and 1 Grape Rolex and 1 Legend Berry OG. Lets see what happens, I will be on top of my top dressing game!

 

[MrOldBoy]

Hey MOB, I have a handful of 6500k Cobs. I like to run a mixed spectrum, typically 4 to1. For flower an example, I put a 6500k in the middle and one in each corner of a 4x4 tent. 55 watts each. For veg I like 2 6500k to every 1 3500k.

BTW - I goofed on how old my gal was, she is 4.5 days old in that pic ... 5 days above ground this AM so by next weekend she should be ready to transplant - I will once again try and “push” out of rootmaker but suspect I’ll end up snipping sides and slide seedling out - will be curious how your little girls come out - I do know you’ll love their root system compared to traditional starter pots / solo cups ....

Lights - I like mixing but not sure I would go with 6500 in flower but I can see a 5000k in flower in the middle.

 

[MMMi]

I'm jelly watching all you guys tending new babies. Looking good.

This pest thing has caused me to pretty much re-evaluate my grow from top to bottom. I knew one day I would have to deal with pests in some capacity. It's been a learning journey, and it really changes how I look at everything. How many spaces, how many plants, staggered or not, which grow method. Learned a lot, studied a lot. Almost wish this happened before I consolidated into a single large tent. From an IPM standpoint -- multiple tents for veg/flower is easier to deal with than one tent to rule them all. But alas...

I have 2 4 assed monkeys in coco that are getting very close. Interesting that the phenos are so different. One is a short squat fat little bush. The other is probably twice the height, a little lankey. Both have nice fat juicy buds. Both of these were affected the least by the gnats or thrips. Sticky's at the base of these two were always pretty good.

Then I have 3 of my LOS plants probably mid-flower. They are dainty, and a bit pale. Not sure if that's not enough feeding, the pest pressure, or both. I've been snipping the fan leaves if they get > 1/3 crunchy. Then douse the trash in h202 and remove from grow room. One of them has very slight pink leaves. Dainty.

The OG plan was to stagger monthly for a perpetual. New plan is to harvest the coco, get the LOS plants within 2-3 weeks of finish, then start new seedlings. This way I can apply some preventatives to the seedlings, pull them out and nuke the tent before flower. I really don't want to have a lot of downtime.

With regard to the pest situation....

Gnat pressure has peaked according to sticky traps. The yellow ones are now picking up some thrips (now that I know what to look for with a magnifying glass, lol). I reserved half of the nematodes for a followup application, will do that tomorrow. Not sure if the 2nd half is still alive in the fridge -- hell, not sure if the 1st half was alive either since I don't have a microscope.

I also applied Stratiolaelaps scimitus predatory mites. I saw one on a sticky trap, so I know at least one was alive in the container. HA. I have some of this left as well (again, not sure they are still alive -- been kept on cool basement floor for a week). Will re-apply a bit of this to the plants, and will also put some of this in my soil tote, my EWC bag and my Ancient forest bag just in case. 50,000 is too much for my small grow.

Knowing what I know now I probably should have done a targeted knockdown first. Targetted spinosad on the worst plants fan leaves only, then predators. Maybe a soil drench with neem/azamax/dr zymes before predators too.

I overreacted a little bit and just wanted to do "something". I know more now. My issue is pretty mild, considering. Nuisance pests.

Now I have to evaluate which growing method I'm going to stick with. I have a bunch of coco left, and a bunch of megacrop still. I think running dual systems/methods is more work. And whether I do perpetual.

If I choose to go coco, I'll go sterile this time and fuck all the beneficial bacteria.
If I choose to go LOS, I'll be preventative spraying and regularly top dressing with neem meal.

All said and done... for me.... the promise of 'just watering' comes with a cost. I just gotta see if the juice is worth the squeeze here.

This weekend is a feeding weekend. I'd apply neem meal now, but I don't want to kill/irritate whatever good mites I have.

 

[MrOldBoy]

I'm jelly watching all you guys tending new babies. Looking good.

This pest thing has caused me to pretty much re-evaluate my grow from top to bottom. I knew one day I would have to deal with pests in some capacity. It's been a learning journey, and it really changes how I look at everything. How many spaces, how many plants, staggered or not, which grow method. Learned a lot, studied a lot. Almost wish this happened before I consolidated into a single large tent. From an IPM standpoint -- multiple tents for veg/flower is easier to deal with than one tent to rule them all. But alas...

I have 2 4 assed monkeys in coco that are getting very close. Interesting that the phenos are so different. One is a short squat fat little bush. The other is probably twice the height, a little lankey. Both have nice fat juicy buds. Both of these were affected the least by the gnats or thrips. Sticky's at the base of these two were always pretty good.

Then I have 3 of my LOS plants probably mid-flower. They are dainty, and a bit pale. Not sure if that's not enough feeding, the pest pressure, or both. I've been snipping the fan leaves if they get > 1/3 crunchy. Then douse the trash in h202 and remove from grow room. One of them has very slight pink leaves. Dainty.

The OG plan was to stagger monthly for a perpetual. New plan is to harvest the coco, get the LOS plants within 2-3 weeks of finish, then start new seedlings. This way I can apply some preventatives to the seedlings, pull them out and nuke the tent before flower. I really don't want to have a lot of downtime.

With regard to the pest situation....

Gnat pressure has peaked according to sticky traps. The yellow ones are now picking up some thrips (now that I know what to look for with a magnifying glass, lol). I reserved half of the nematodes for a followup application, will do that tomorrow. Not sure if the 2nd half is still alive in the fridge -- hell, not sure if the 1st half was alive either since I don't have a microscope.

I also applied Stratiolaelaps scimitus predatory mites. I saw one on a sticky trap, so I know at least one was alive in the container. HA. I have some of this left as well (again, not sure they are still alive -- been kept on cool basement floor for a week). Will re-apply a bit of this to the plants, and will also put some of this in my soil tote, my EWC bag and my Ancient forest bag just in case. 50,000 is too much for my small grow.

Knowing what I know now I probably should have done a targeted knockdown first. Targetted spinosad on the worst plants fan leaves only, then predators. Maybe a soil drench with neem/azamax/dr zymes before predators too.

I overreacted a little bit and just wanted to do "something". I know more now. My issue is pretty mild, considering. Nuisance pests.

Now I have to evaluate which growing method I'm going to stick with. I have a bunch of coco left, and a bunch of megacrop still. I think running dual systems/methods is more work. And whether I do perpetual.

If I choose to go coco, I'll go sterile this time and fuck all the beneficial bacteria.
If I choose to go LOS, I'll be preventative spraying and regularly top dressing with neem meal.

All said and done... for me.... the promise of 'just watering' comes with a cost. I just gotta see if the juice is worth the squeeze here.

This weekend is a feeding weekend. I'd apply neem meal now, but I don't want to kill/irritate whatever good mites I have.

Neem is best worked into soil mixed and then top dressed once monthly - Neem can kill beneficials too, so don’t overdo .... If you go LOS and cover containers with shower caps, the bad bugs won’t be able to complete their life cycle and all should be good ....

Good luck whatever your choice!

 

[slowandeasy]

BTW - I goofed on how old my gal was, she is 4.5 days old in that pic ... 5 days above ground this AM so by next weekend she should be ready to transplant - I will once again try and “push” out of rootmaker but suspect I’ll end up snipping sides and slide seedling out - will be curious how your little girls come out - I do know you’ll love their root system compared to traditional starter pots / solo cups ....

Lights - I like mixing but not sure I would go with 6500 in flower but I can see a 5000k in flower in the middle.

I can tell that the Rootmakers wont be as easy to PUSH out the bottom. I will give it a go when the time comes, but wont be surprised if I have to cut them too, they seem a little too ridged/strong...but we will see in 10-12 more days. The amount of starter soil is a little bit greater in the Rootmakers.. but I believe 10-12 days veg is about the amount of time they need to transplant best. This new Starter Mix is very clean feeling. Light, and Airy feeling. I really like it so far. I got it from Amazon and opted to wait longer and paid for shipping, because I had a feeling it was higher quality than Jiffy or Micracle Grow Starter soils available around here. I had 4 cups of Starter mix warming up overnight to clone yeaterday. But when Insaw the seeds were ready I used the 2 cups to plants the seeds.
This is a PERFECT side by side example with only a few days between them.. so we can see how much different the seedlings root system develope. Today is day 2 on the Rootmakers. I assume the new seedlings will be above ground tomorrow, so 3 to 4 days difference above ground. We will use the 12 days above ground as my approx tranaplant day. The one thing I like about cups is that I can see the root development with clear cups. So no guessing on if/when they are ready to transplant. Cups hold less soil, so they should need transplanting sooner. The goal is to produce roots quickly. However, you can slow root production down easily if you over water them...even just once.

 

[MrOldBoy]

I can tell that the Rootmakers wont be as easy to PUSH out the bottom. I will give it a go when the time comes, but wont be surprised if I have to cut them too, they seem a little too ridged/strong...but we will see in 10-12 more days. The amount of starter soil is a little bit greater in the Rootmakers.. but I believe 10-12 days veg is about the amount of time they need to transplant best. This new Starter Mix is very clean feeling. Light, and Airy feeling. I really like it so far. I got it from Amazon and opted to wait longer and paid for shipping, because I had a feeling it was higher quality than Jiffy or Micracle Grow Starter soils available around here. I had 4 cups of Starter mix warming up overnight to clone yeaterday. But when Insaw the seeds were ready I used the 2 cups to plants the seeds.
This is a PERFECT side by side example with only a few days between them.. so we can see how much different the seedlings root system develope. Today is day 2 on the Rootmakers. I assume the new seedlings will be above ground tomorrow, so 3 to 4 days difference above ground. We will use the 12 days above ground as my approx tranaplant day. The one thing I like about cups is that I can see the root development with clear cups. So no guessing on if/when they are ready to transplant. Cups hold less soil, so they should need transplanting sooner. The goal is to produce roots quickly. However, you can slow root production down easily if you over water them...even just once.

Rootmakers you’ll be able to see their little roots coming out the small bottom and side holes - My gal was 5 days old this AM and is almost halfway there ..... I actually have some Organic Jiffy Starting Soil and yes the mix is light - my last girls were started with LOS and I mixed in peat moss and some perlite and screened the soil and they turned out good but I did have the one that was wacky so perhaps my mix wasn’t mixed - anyways this time I had some remaining left over and I saw that Jiffy Mix so I grabbed it and mixed in some LOS - so far so good .....

Been super careful watering this gal in fact in five days I’ve only watered once and that was yesterday but you are oh so correct the first 10-12 days are critical which is way when you have limited bullets to fire you pick the weapon you’ve hit the target with many times and for me that’s my little T5 setup ..... Next year when I’m not in a “need situation“ I give a direct plant a shot but honestly transplant shock is not a concern - I remember when I first came across AFN I read no transplant and no spray feeding - I’m like what - both proved to be false at least for my grow.

 

[grower789]

Here is a bottom bud, nothing on this plant is bad....its all quality. Even the small stuff is good. This small bud will press a few big Dabs!View attachment 1144882

Real Nice Slow.

 

[grower789]

How many days did this one go for Slow?

 

[slowandeasy]

How many days did this one go for Slow?

Just above 80 days. The Preflowering stage took a little longer than expected, but that is most likely due to the lack of any top dressings. I suspect that with top dressings every 2weeks atarting at preflowering will help to speed up the preflower/flower stage. I may do small weekly top dressings vs every 2-3 weeks. The low profile Earthbox juniors may benefit from consistent t6op dressings as an additional food source during the flowering stage. I notice that hunger starts to show at preflower, so I will be top dressing ahead of that to get the food there quicker. I am totally happy with the results and know that I have a ton of potential to improve. Which is awesome, because the Quality is very high and yield is on point with what it shoukd be for White Crack. The yield will improve, with the top dressings, and will be above average. The looks , smell, taste, and Rosin yield is awesome. I have a Coco White Crack Flushing now, chop in 3 days. She is smaller, but is in a 1/2 gal pot and looks really nice. Yield will be smaller, but decent. The pheno is different, not as many leaves and not as big. I think the Organic plant had denser buds, but the plant was bigger and the stems were much larger. I only have a handful of WC seeds left. So once I get my new tents up I will be doing my breeding. Have to preserve White Crack for myself and want to create some new crosses. It presses Rosin very well for me. So I want to keep that around!