Mephisto Genetics Tyrone Special K.I.S.S grow journal

[Pops]

Thanks Pops!
Why did you start using Oxysorb?
It tooks me hours of reading and guessing to decide to use it (in my curing jars now)
Any more tips you want to share?

Because learning the hard way sucks. I have to slog through stuff like this:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Marijuana_Cultivation/Curing
"During the cure the chlorophyll in the leaves turns to sugars, which is what gives the marijuana its taste and aroma."

I just want gouge my eyes out to stop the pain. It is wrong on so many levels... and this is something newbies read to learn how to cure weed! Insanity, madness...the blind leading the blind.

HB
We have been inundated with a Quagmire of info, that can be overwhelming.
Kiss is the way for me.
Oxysorb
I have owned and sold 10 restaurant over the yrs. I learned that air is bad on food and if you take the air away it will last longer. We used cryovac to take the air out.
So why not for marijuana. So around the 1990 or so I started use products like oxysorb. now use the same as you have. I believe that you get a better cure, but thats me. I do not use any Humidity packs at all. Just Oxysorb. I have never had a problem.
I hope this helps you, with you have going on.
I too, just need the pain to go away.
Pops

 

[4n12c]

If odor is a concern, drysift or bubble can be made and then added to edible/s.

However, raw edibles (non baked goods) will still mostly have THCA rather than THC present with this method which for recreational use is non desired. But for baked or heated goods.

You could also try a slow crook pot with coconut oil, that should be more controllable odor wise than the oven with higher temperatures and non submerged material.

 

[HubbaBubba]

So... Decarb... remove CO2 from cannabinoids so they can fit some human receptors.

Anyhow, there is a lot of decarbing going on in weed. In the picture every orange arrow is a decarb reaction.
13 of 'em in the picture, I bet there are lots more....almost 100 known cannabinoids

 

[4n12c]

Decarboxylation is a primary a result of heating and the thereby after properties of the Cannabinoids is varying (alot of which We dont know yet) but we do now, that THCA is non psychoactive whereas THC is.

Non decarb THCA also gets in our system, however EC1 modulation is far from what it is when decarbed THC is ingested.

However, when using a vaporizer or other means where the herb is heated, decarboxylation is not needed.

I would only be focusing on decarb for edibles.

 

[HubbaBubba]

when using a vaporizer or other means where the herb is heated, decarboxylation is not needed.

There is the tricky bit.
How much does a vaporizer decarb at 180C? 50%?

Yikes, a vaporizer is perfect for oxidation of THC to CBN, hot and lots of oxygen airflow.
Maybe the resin guys are on to something with the instant flash to vapor?

Here is an ancient graph, 25 years old. Full Decarb in 7 min at 145C in oil form.
What if my weed is already 50% decarbed from the jar cure? (heat accelerates, but is not needed for decarb)

After 7 min at 145C.... the THC DROPS, lowers, decreases... because it is changing to CBN?

Does this mean: don't let your weed slow roast in the vaporizer?
If you can't finish the bowl... power off and suck the temp down below 100C?

 

[HubbaBubba]

This seems really helpful, hope you like it:

Lower temps for less CBN in my daytime energetic high, later boost the temp to 400 and say good night...

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[HubbaBubba]

And here is their graph for flavor:

both graphs are from their video: http://tinyurl.com/nveum4d

 

[4n12c]

Hey Hubba,

Check out this :

"Cannabis Vaporizer Combines Efficient Delivery of THC with Effective Suppression of Pyrolytic Compounds" http://www.cannabis-med.org/data/pdf/2004-01-1.pdf

 

[HubbaBubba]

Check out this :
"Cannabis Vaporizer Combines Efficient Delivery of THC with Effective Suppression of Pyrolytic Compounds"

Hey, thanks!
I like the Volcano from Storz & Bickel, I use the mini version, the Crafty.

"CBN, there was no significant change under vaporization"
They only did a partial vape of the herb, maybe more CBN towards the end?

I do not understand oxidation rates for THC to CBN, the stuff is a mystery.

 

[Corgy]

And here is their graph for flavor:
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both graphs are from their video: http://tinyurl.com/nveum4d

wots the Y-axis numbers..........?