Grow Mediums "...times are a changing"

[Nosias]

How ya doing @Nosias Some great girls I'm very curious about using less coco

On all of my AutoPots grows I have used air domes with the 15L/3.9 gal pots. Hansbricks used them so I used them. Well when the grows were done I cleaned out the pots and saw that the top 2 inches of coco had some roots. The middle section has very very few roots. Of course all of the roots were encasing the air dome with a mesh/ball of spider web like roots 3-4 inches deep. But there was not a tap root and they were healthy and happy ladies. Also all of the roots from DWC/DWC that I see here also do not have a tap root.

I did not pay any attention to these observations. What I did think was "... now that was a waste of coco, space and money". I have used the 2.2 gal pots on a few grows and the ladies grew just like the ladies in the bigger 3.9 gal.

During these days and weeks of staying home I started to read All of the threads from the Auto Pot forum. So b4 I started this grow I was reading a thread from @pop22 and here is what he said, https://www.autoflower.org/threads/multipoint-auto-pot-experiment.53199/page-10

"Nov 8, 2016

I've got a plant right now, that I screwed up. I always water a bit before transplant, mainly to help hold the soil together. I forgot to one and I lost 1/2 the rootball. She stalled for about 4 days, then gave signs she was growing again. I said good, she be small but still productive. Nope......I was wrong........ she's now the biggest plant!!!

Cannabis is an amazing plant. That is the second time I broke a plant had had it become the largest of the group!

Then @2Stoned2Care replied,

Maybe we should start breaking all our girls then : "

Then I saw this video posted in another thread. Well I do not know where I saw it though I swear it was here


Now I know there is something to be learned from everyone and but not everyone is willing to listen and learn. Growing is an acquired skill FOR ME. I am willing to listen, to read and to mess-up. These two reads/Youtube tied themselves together for me and a light went off. So I will let you know how it does.

 

[Nosias]

I used some large pebbles at the bottom when I was low on coco to raise the plants roots a little higher.
Incidentally I use12l airports now, girls roots grow throughout (primary and secondary) so I consider them a great fit for autos.
Good luck

Thanks for dropping by. Yes you can add or you can subtract to get the the volume you want in the pots. Good growing to you. Be Safe stay safe.

 

[Nosias]

Also curious to see the half-pot action. Have the exact same pots in my current grow, and also doing AutoUltimates, will be interesting to compare best of luck for this run bro

Take a look at my post #21 that I just posted here. I now feel I have enough light to make this grow fill a tent. Are you using 100% coco with air domes?
It is always about the roots. If you have a good root system with nutes and enough light then all will be good. If some can grow in a dixie cup then we can grow in 6" of coco. We will see. So far this is the best start I have ever had. The Dutch Passion Ultimate is a nice strain with a nice buzz. Enjoy her.

Thanks for dropping by. Do you have thread started? I would like to follow along.

Say and be safe.

 

[Nosias]

Wont the half pot block light from around the lower part of plant?

I do not believe his really will not be an issue. The sides will grow up and over the top of the pot. I will remove most of the small buds close to the main stem anyway.

Do you have a thread stared?

 

[Groff]

Take a look at my post #21 that I just posted here. I now feel I have enough light to make this grow fill a tent. Are you using 100% coco with air domes?
It is always about the roots. If you have a good root system with nutes and enough light then all will be good. If some can grow in a dixie cup then we can grow in 6" of coco. We will see. So far this is the best start I have ever had. The Dutch Passion Ultimate is a nice strain with a nice buzz. Enjoy her.

Thanks for dropping by. Do you have thread started? I would like to follow along.

Say and be safe.

I've mostly done RDWC and coco. There is a very old thread of mine where I grew coco in 20L airpots, and the roots shot straight out the bottom. So I got a container with an airstone and greated a massive rootball below the 20L airpot !!

You seem to know your stuff. See, to me this is basically DWC but with coco. The only problem is if accidentally you let the medium dry, you will kill the plant very quickly, as the air will dehydrate your roots pretty quick. If a pump fails in DWC, you still have several hours to fix things.

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[Nosias]

I've mostly done RDWC and coco. There is a very old thread of mine where I grew coco in 20L airpots, and the roots shot straight out the bottom. So I got a container with an airstone and greated a massive rootball below the 20L airpot !!

You seem to know your stuff. See, to me this is basically DWC but with coco. The only problem is if accidentally you let the medium dry, you will kill the plant very quickly, as the air will dehydrate your roots pretty quick. If a pump fails in DWC, you still have several hours to fix things.

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So you think the air from the bottom of the pot, either from an air stone or air domes, maybe the reason the plant does NOT send out a tap root. Very interesting. Since I found auto flowering ladies they are all that I have grow.

From what I have seen the pots doe not dry very fast. The coco stays wet for me for several days with the lights on and it stays wet for weeks after I harvest. I have turned off the rez at harvest and just let the ladies try to go dry b4 I cut 'em down. That can take a week so I believe things will be ok if the water runs dry in its tray. As I seem to have developed a habit of 4-5 daily trips to see the tent, I hope I never let them go dry.

PS What I know comes from a love of the plant and my need to learn. As I am a real slow learner I have a lot of open sky ahead for me to explore.

Be safe

 

[Groff]

@Nosias - be careful. Yeah, coco is great because it is able to hold vast amounts of water while at the same time air, which is great. It is really complicated to waterlog a plant, unlike with soil. At this stage, no doubt, the plant is not sucking a lot of water, so it seems the coco will maintain moistness for a long time. After you harvest, coco stays wet for weeks exactly because of this property, plus low heat and no plant to feed

Problem is when they get really big. They'll be consuming 2 to 4L per day, depending on many factors. That means you can fill in the rez in the morning and it will be empty in the evening. In your case, it will be dangerous to have the air blowing into the roots. Just 1 day can kill them. So moral of the story, nevel let that coco run dry for too long!

tap root? I never mentioned tap root. That will always happen, it is just how they are made. After which they differentiate.
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[Jimmythenugg]

Then I saw this video posted in another thread. Well I do not know where I saw it though I swear it was here

It was me that posted it... here https://www.autoflower.org/threads/...er-container-no-it-was-not.76876/post-2264085
Here, some stuff good stuff from him.
I have a seed soaking right now to try this (a royal creamatic), been soaking 24 hours so gonna chk him in another day then imma do exactly like he says.

 

[Jimmythenugg]

Do you have a thread stared?

Not yet though i might write up my current grows. Mish mash of stuff photos and autos.
Also awaiting some coloidel silver so might do a mash up between my current favs...
Hmmm, prolly worth a journal.

 

[Nosias]

Not yet though i might write up my current grows. Mish mash of stuff photos and autos.
Also awaiting some coloidel silver so might do a mash up between my current favs...
Hmmm, prolly worth a journal.

Be safe.