Indoor Testing the eazyplug pyramid mini.

Once again I have been undone by auto flowers but thanks to my set up which is especially designed to deal with the vagaries of autos while simultaneously keeping me in a manner to which I have become accustomed, I have made an end run around them. Let me explain....


It's pretty clear due to many posts (reddit) that the Blue Powers F4 have a disproportionate amount of rubbish genotypes with regard to structure. I pruned the fuck out of the Three BP taking the lower 3 sets of branches off two of them and the lower two off one. They looked fine after that but were obviously going to be a bit small. I was due for my next run in February 5, but then I discovered that my biggest BP was in fact a male, I don't mean it hermed because it did not have any pre pistils like the other two, then I saw it was in fact covered with pollen sacs so she had an early death.

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The roots are dying off perfectly and to my surprise there is no algae at all, even in the cracks where the light gets through, so that must mean it needs to get a foothold in order to spread.
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I have the two mango isles that will come down in a week or less, and the Blue Nerdz on the right a couple of weeks after, so it looked like I could start three more right now which I did.
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2 mango phenos plus a Blue Nerz nearly three weeks behind
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Not wanting to grow another unknown quantity I dropped three Grape Deebo as it's tried and tested.

They came up fast one in under two days and two under three days
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I'm happy I was able to fix up the two Blue Power because I'm sure they'll have quality buds, and they could still stretch their way out of trouble.

However it's not all bad news because this has prompted me to reevaluate how I start the plugs, I am not confident that the pyramid slurry mix is consistent with it's nute additives, because there's definitely different textures when the plug is dry. I used to just soak the plugs, but now I am soaking them in pH'd water thoroughly then I squeeze the water out then check the ppm and I keep doing that till I get the plugs down to 2-300 ppm that way I can know they all begin from the same base. It's possible that the BP's are just extremely sensitive and need very little nutes, at any rate these new Grape Deebo have had their plugs prepared like that, although that doesn't explain the male.

This is my last Blue Nerds auto and it's produced it's normal large tight buds with the fruity smell but no purple at all yet!
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And here's a few more Mango Isle shots.
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What pH are you feeding them at?
Howdy DM! another year another year of slavery to the girls. I use the indicator drops and I like to keep is slightly warm yellow to yellow, which would be around pH5.9 to 6.1, I don't get much variation probably because I mix up the nutes 10L at a time. I am really kicking myself for not actually testing the ppm of the plugs earlier even with a bad meter, but I only recently got a bluelab ppm meter because I wanted to be more precise on the ppm of each individual nutrient and I suddenly got curious because I'm thinking you can get the occasional 'hot' plug just a hypothesis at the moment.
 
I just checked their site and see they recommend 5.8.

Either I never saw that, or it wasn't there when I was using these.

I wasn't adjusting my pH, and was around 6.5. I wonder if that relates to the issues I had, all plants were stunted, smaller than soil grows by at least 50%
 
Nice clean operation you got going. I’m keeping an eye on your Blue Powers as I’ll be running one in my next grow.
 
I wasn't adjusting my pH, and was around 6.5. I wonder if that relates to the issues I had, all plants were stunted, smaller than soil grows by at least 50%
I'm not convinced that would make that kind of f difference, or anything of that nature with Autos, this is why I have become more sane since I began growing single strain grows, I have stopped trying to attribute what is likely gene related to something else. If I was still growing clones and photos then I would definitely do tests with 5.8 and 6.5 pH both running 1;1;1 NPK all the way through just to see what would happen.

Nice clean operation you got going. I’m keeping an eye on your Blue Powers as I’ll be running one in my next grow.
Cheers, I'm documenting my grow in more detail on grow diaries I'm thinking of getting one of these autopot trays and put a pyramid on some clay balls just to test it out.

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I'm not convinced that would make that kind of f difference, or anything of that nature with Autos, this is why I have become more sane since I began growing single strain grows, I have stopped trying to attribute what is likely gene related to something else. If I was still growing clones and photos then I would definitely do tests with 5.8 and 6.5 pH both running 1;1;1 NPK all the way through just to see what would happen.


Cheers, I'm documenting my grow in more detail on grow diaries I'm thinking of getting one of these autopot trays and put a pyramid on some clay balls just to test it out.

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Since its essentially coco in a latex foam matrix, you should be able to put it on a rockwool base.
 
Blue Nerdz did it's thing and finished up with no purple which is ironic because I thought she'd look good splitting the mango isles, ended up chopping an entire branch off by mistake I didn't realise till I went to hand it, but I will now be able to compare and early 9w harvest to a 10w,

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All three Grape Deebo have set my mind at rest they all appear to be fast growers so fast that they weren't able to stand up till after two weeks, but I'd much prefer that because they will stand up eventually and I like a plant that grows fast and tall, hopefully I can finally see if three owls can all produce quality buds.

And the Blue Power looks like they are going to get very frosting, as they all seem to do, there's never been a problem with the quality of the buds as far as I've seen just the bad growth structure. I have two mini pyramids and I'm going to run another BP in that with extremely light nutes like I might use almost none until the plants asks me. Also instead of getting burned again I will run a Redball in a mini first too. If the Redball come out normal and the BP is still runty then I will have conclusive proof there is a genetic problem with the F4. But I'm a bit bunched up at the moment so I might have to wait a while.

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Wa wa wee wa, these Grape Deebos are the fastest growing autos I've had so far, total opposite in every way (except bud quality, hopefully), so my plan to grow a known quantity to ease my Blue Power induced PTSD, has worked a charm, and in the meantime I have ascertained that Redball, Master Bruce and Galaxy Brain all look like good structure which is what I was planning on next. Tossing up between 3 Redball or 3 Master Bruce, next and I'm open to requests, I don't really mind which one it is.

The spindly weak stems where none of the beans could support themselves for over two weeks did not bother me because to some people it's a light problem but to me it indicates good growth. I have been proved correct because the shortest of the three which was in fact normal size is the smallest plant by a lot and also had a small bit of the deformed twisted leaf growth that ruined the Blue Powers, but it quickly shrugged that off.

I am beginning to formulate an idea that while we all recognise a stunted plant when we see one, no one thinks about the possibility of stunted roots because you dont' see them. But with the pyramids you get a very good idea what the roots are doing. I could see that the Blue Powers were putting out even roots but they were noticeably sparse. I further suspect that stunted roots also make the plant exhibit necrotic dying leaves instead of simply fading. Of course the leaves and the roots are interdependent.

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Black panels are working great, I can't believe I didn't do this earlier.

The Blue Powers are chunking up very slowly but well, I may even be able to get an ounce off each plant if I am lucky. These will be the most expensive buds I've grown, in terms of time, space, power, and equipment.

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At least the buds look fire!!!
 
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