Ruderalis. an unsolved puzzle

[CanadianStorm]

I'm laughing reading this because I was down this path last year.
First of all are PURE ruderalis hard to find (YES)...
Are ruderalis from eastern europe hard to find on the web, no...

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It did take me about 2 weeks every night searching for a seed bank/ breader to have what I was looking for.
I too live in Canada, and getting the seeds from CannaPot took about 3 weeks because most seeds are sent via Euromail.

I'm into my 3rd grow of ruderalis to create my own seed supply.
See pictures bellow.

I'm in the process of creating an auto hybrid of Cannatonic which will be an auto.
Cannatonic is mostly sativa, so as Teide said, if you don't want to introduce Indica into your auto, you better start off from scratch.
Easy??,...no....
The pictures attached are an F1 of Cannatonic/Ruderalis.
The Bastards (using proper English), have the height of Cannatonic, but flower after about 30 days.

Is selling pure Ruderalis in North America worth it,...maybe (without getting caught?,...stay under the radar!!).

The future of pot is definetly feminised seeds to make sure the customer gets flowers only (ok, maybe without contamination from a male).
Also, if the world supply is only female,....you have to buy seeds from a supplier!!!!, not make your own (WTF!!).

What about those of us ( LIKE ME) that want to make a seed run?

So while we're a head of the game in 2020, do I encourge someone selling Ruderalis,...yes and no...
Yes to make some photos which are not Auto's down the road...
And no because every time we introduce a new strain on the market, people find a better way to corrupt what already exists.

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This Russian Auto got me confused
Auto Russian (aka Russian Automatic) is derived from the highly regarded strain AK-47. Several different AK-47 selections were chosen to cross-breed with the ruderalis-based Skunk auto-flowering genetics that Exotic Seed works with. This combination produced automatic offspring with good height and a columnar structure sufficient to support the heavy, resin-laden flowers that form these extremely desirable buds. Auto Russian is an especially odoriferous strain redolent of ripe fruit. Yields are good at 450 gr - 500 gr/m2 indoors in only 11 weeks from germination. The effect is very relaxing.

Are you sure those are pure c. Siberian Ruderalis?

 

[Proph]

Let me clear up what I meant by easy to find, lol. Im in the US.. Im also part of our wanna community... I go to expos and am well known in forums and social media.. So I'm kinda plugged in. So for people like me, finding pure landrace autos from theira A was zz origin is not too difficult at all because I know people. With that said, I've never seen or bought ruderalis from a seed bank, so I can imagine them being hard to find without knowing people who make those trips and are doing preservation projects..

 

[GeorgeCloney]

No I made a harvest from 1 of 4 plants this morning ( that is the Cannatonic Rudy hybrids),....got about 20 seeds.

The usual harvest from the rudy/rudy are a little less because I'm selective on getting genes from the best plants.

A message to you ( CANADIANSTORM),

Where exactly did you find your seeds?
Those I got were via Austria,..
My German is'nt the best ( ok I cheated with Google translator),... and found that my seeds originated from Estonia.

After having read your post,....I saw a lot of what I was thinking about last year.
Is there a market for PURE Rudy's absolutely!!!
I just question, who's hands they end up in at the expense of making $1000?????

Was going to the gulag worth $1000, ..?? not sure,....you may want to save the seeds dearly,...right?

 

[Proph]

This Russian Auto got me confused
Auto Russian (aka Russian Automatic) is derived from the highly regarded strain AK-47. Several different AK-47 selections were chosen to cross-breed with the ruderalis-based Skunk auto-flowering genetics that Exotic Seed works with. This combination produced automatic offspring with good height and a columnar structure sufficient to support the heavy, resin-laden flowers that form these extremely desirable buds. Auto Russian is an especially odoriferous strain redolent of ripe fruit. Yields are good at 450 gr - 500 gr/m2 indoors in only 11 weeks from germination. The effect is very relaxing.

Are you sure those are pure c. Siberian Ruderalis?

Sounds like AK47 auto crossed to skunk auto to me..
Or auto ak47 crossed to auto skunk since they said the cross resulted in auto seeds..

 

[GeorgeCloney]

Well,
This is what I can tell you of my 3rd grow crossing the Rudy seeds...

Plants flower in about 60 days.
Males are usually about 30-40cm's high.
Females 20 to 30.

The actual look of these growing is pathetic,..the nodes are far apart...and leaves grow all crooked.
When in flower, the smell is very discrete, and sweet...not skunky like regular indica/sativa.
They only smell ( on your fingers) if you rub the leaves,...not outright in a room.

The plants I've had so far only seem to grow 3 leaves,..sometimes 5 (and all are dark green, regarless of feed).
They seem to do better under my elcheapo blurple, than an actual TS1000 from Mars Hydro .

One last thing that is odd,...
If I don't feed them and the solo cup goes dry for 4-6 days....these f**kers will not die!,
The leaves drop and go limp,..but the plant lives on,...and groes new leaves until flower.

The pictures you saw in a previous post are also a sativea/Rudy mix,...so don't judge on that.

 

[CanadianStorm]

No I made a harvest from 1 of 4 plants this morning ( that is the Cannatonic Rudy hybrids),....got about 20 seeds.

The usual harvest from the rudy/rudy are a little less because I'm selective on getting genes from the best plants.

A message to you ( CANADIANSTORM),

Where exactly did you find your seeds?
Those I got were via Austria,..
My German is'nt the best ( ok I cheated with Google translator),... and found that my seeds originated from Estonia.

After having read your post,....I saw a lot of what I was thinking about last year.
Is there a market for PURE Rudy's absolutely!!!
I just question, who's hands they end up in at the expense of making $1000?????

Was going to the gulag worth $1000, ..?? not sure,....you may want to save the seeds dearly,...right?

I picked it up between the Dniperpetrovsk oblast and Donbass. My Canadian ass drove all the way back to France with it lmao

 

[CanadianStorm]

Well,
This is what I can tell you of my 3rd grow crossing the Rudy seeds...

Plants flower in about 60 days.
Males are usually about 30-40cm's high.
Females 20 to 30.

The actual look of these growing is pathetic,..the nodes are far apart...and leaves grow all crooked.
When in flower, the smell is very discrete, and sweet...not skunky like regular indica/sativa.
They only smell ( on your fingers) if you rub the leaves,...not outright in a room.

The plants I've had so far only seem to grow 3 leaves,..sometimes 5 (and all are dark green, regarless of feed).
They seem to do better under my elcheapo blurple, than an actual TS1000 from Mars Hydro .

One last thing that is odd,...
If I don't feed them and the solo cup goes dry for 4-6 days....these f**kers will not die!,
The leaves drop and go limp,..but the plant lives on,...and groes new leaves until flower.

The pictures you saw in a previous post are also a sativea/Rudy mix,...so don't judge on that.

And yes those rudys dont want to f***** die lolllll thats why its a very good option to to bet on recessive genes, just at the limit where you can think about cloning . Cant make mothers until the 3rd and 4th generation sadly.

 

[GeorgeCloney]

In the future,
Mail the seeds home.
Never travel with seeds.

 

[GeorgeCloney]

Storm,
PM me
My latest seed run is about 3 months old, and I keep them in the refridgerator.

I think we have an oppertunity for something here as we've discussed.
My hybrid project is just for myself, no profit intended.
I have a medical license and not willing to loose that for something not worth while.

Let me know.
Cheers,
GC

 

[Disburped]

Or just buy some regular haze seeds from Top Tao Seeds and breed with it. May speed up your project by a decade and the smoke is crazy if you harvest too early, don't do it. I don't think 30 days is normal it's too warm, that is why it grow like a runt.