Return of the Mush Room

Gotta Ask a Question...... :pass: ...who tells us that it is the psilocybin in Magic Mushrooms that is the Active ingredient..?

Who tells us it is the THC/CBD or any range of cannabinoids in cannabis that make them Work...Who...?...and do we Trust them to be telling us the Truth...or are they trying to Blind us with Science..?

Coz I'll tell you what my Homework says...

The most common drugs we misuse ourselves..

Tobacco..cannabis...and even your magic mushrooms

Through to cocaine..heroin..even methadone..

to the Prescription drugs the licenced drug dealers peddle....(doctors)..:biggrin: ..codeine..morphine...

Every single one of the contains one common ingredient...Alkoloids.


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It Always comes back to Alkaloids.....:pass: ..commonality... maybe we Are all talking about the same medicine after all...and we are just being Blinded by Science as to Source...



Thoughts to Ponder...:pass:

boom! science :biggrin: ppp
 
Hi Mossy, I am far from a chemist but you got my attention with this topic. Even if they are all alkaloids I am not sure what to make of it? Appears there are many different types of alkaloids. Over 12000 and counting. Interesting but does it change anything?
 
Hi Mossy, I am far from a chemist but you got my attention with this topic. Even if they are all alkaloids I am not sure what to make of it? Appears there are many different types of alkaloids. Over 12000 and counting. Interesting but does it change anything?

Alkaloids Alkalise..Alkalising increases oxygen..oxygen is Life...My Honest opinion degenerative nerve pain is the nerves screaming for oxygen..cos they are dying..but then..I'm not the chemist either..I'm the patient...and..it Works for me..

And..you know..goverments and big pharma wouldn't keep Secrets from us.........................................would they...?... :pass:

Appears there are many different types of alkaloids. Over 12000 and counting. Interesting but does it change anything?

IMO...no..Basic forms..they all do the same job...(Mainly pain-killing..and if you over do it High)....just different Doses...

Pick me brains after New Year if you want....:headbang:..I'm just about ready to go on leave... tag me...
 
Alkaloids Alkalise..Alkalising increases oxygen..oxygen is Life...My Honest opinion degenerative nerve pain is the nerves screaming for oxygen..cos they are dying..but then..I'm not the chemist either..I'm the patient...and..it Works for me..

And..you know..goverments and big pharma wouldn't keep Secrets from us.........................................would they...?... :pass:



IMO...no..Basic forms..they all do the same job...(Mainly pain-killing..and if you over do it High)....just different Doses...

Pick me brains after New Year if you want....:headbang:..I'm just about ready to go on leave... tag me...
10/4 after the break it is. Don't tell me we need a new forum for it...please? :rofl:
Enjoy the break.
 
Gotta Ask a Question...... :pass: ...who tells us that it is the psilocybin in Magic Mushrooms that is the Active ingredient..?

Who tells us it is the THC/CBD or any range of cannabinoids in cannabis that make them Work...Who...?...and do we Trust them to be telling us the Truth...or are they trying to Blind us with Science..?

Coz I'll tell you what my Homework says...

The most common drugs we misuse ourselves..

Tobacco..cannabis...and even your magic mushrooms

Through to cocaine..heroin..even methadone..

to the Prescription drugs the licenced drug dealers peddle....(doctors)..:biggrin: ..codeine..morphine...

Every single one of the contains one common ingredient...Alkoloids.


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It Always comes back to Alkaloids.....:pass: ..commonality... maybe we Are all talking about the same medicine after all...and we are just being Blinded by Science as to Source...



Thoughts to Ponder...:pass:
Don't get fake science confused with real science fake science usually has an economic gain the true potential of science will never be achieved as long as we are governed by an economic system
 
Thats me calling it like it is. Ive done many shrooms and everything else thats an old school shot caller thats reformed saying i find it insulting. Have any of you seen one of ur friends stab another friend and almost kill him because he was tripping on shrooms n thought our other buddy was a wolf attacking his chickens? Have you ever had the devil tell you to kill ? Shrooms right their. If ur a dark person they take you to dark places. These are real true trip stories thats why i say its bull shit no shrooms this is a weed site.
I hear you bud and those are unfortunate experiences. I would not advise anyone to grab a bag n see what happens, my interest is in the therapeutic applications of shrooms and in my limited experience this is best achieved with microdoses. I'm very interested in developing an understanding of the way people use shrooms beneficially and this thread gives us the opportunity to share that knowledge and experience. Peace
 
I hear you bud and those are unfortunate experiences. I would not advise anyone to grab a bag n see what happens, my interest is in the therapeutic applications of shrooms and in my limited experience this is best achieved with microdoses. I'm very interested in developing an understanding of the way people use shrooms beneficially and this thread gives us the opportunity to share that knowledge and experience. Peace
My apologies i should have kept my opinions to myself. Stay safe in ur journeys. To anyone else i offended im sorry it wasnt my place to say anything but im done in here. If anyone wants to talk trees im here for that. Stay safe n b cautious.
 
My apologies i should have kept my opinions to myself. Stay safe in ur journeys. To anyone else i offended im sorry it wasnt my place to say anything but im done in here. If anyone wants to talk trees im here for that. Stay safe n b cautious.

No need to feel you offended anyone, I understand your fear and people are free to express opinions if it is in a civil and informative matter. I just want people to understand that I myself at at my wits end with my medical issues. The migraines are as bad as ever again, and I feel so defeated by it. They also mess with my psychological well being so bad that I feel for ME trying micro-dosing can't hurt. I have never touched mushrooms in my life as I don't want to trip out, but I can't take much more pain or the savage depression I get after a bad spell.

I found this on migraine.com, "Beginning with the Migraine prodrome and continuing through the postdrome (see Migraine Phases), levels of neurotransmitters such as serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine are affected. This can have a serious impact on mood and can increase suicidal ideation."

So that is one big issue that I really need to deal with, if I even can. I have been through countless pharma drugs, and two almost killed me. So one has to weigh that risk that is just as bad or worse than what psilocybin may do if it doesn't agree with me.

I feel that what most people here want are the same thing, something to heal them. My stepson over the holidays told me his anxiety was cured by a fairly large dose, I myself can't risk that but I am happy he found relief. I hope many more can.
 
My apologies i should have kept my opinions to myself. Stay safe in ur journeys. To anyone else i offended im sorry it wasnt my place to say anything but im done in here. If anyone wants to talk trees im here for that. Stay safe n b cautious.
No need to apologise ma pal. We had an exchange of views and its important we have a balanced discussion here. Your point of view is valid and a degree of scepticism is healthy in a discussion like this. :pass:
 
I used to do loads of shrooms, when I was around 17-23 we did shrooms or LSD aprox. 3x a week for 6 years and it was completely crazy life period.... In the end I almost wasnt able to tell reality from the trip, so I was like fuck it, thats already too much and stopped... Then I was experiencing flashbacks for almost 2 years (when You are clean and suddenly You feel like your high af and tripping balls) which was def. not cool when happened when I was in the meeting for example .. Not cool at all...

Overall its like with everything, over-use and You can fk you up real bad.. Stay in the "moderate" use and Youll be awarded ...

As for the Jc420bigbud post.... From my experience being aggressive, self harm etc. on the "trip high" is always connected to some psych illness that the "user" doesnt know about(or ignored). Its not the shrooms fault, they just showed the potencional of psych illness for that spec. user. Also I cant recommend using when having some issues in real life, because You can 100% count on having "bad trip" then. And not having experienced psychonaut around when this happens to someone is just a problem waiting to happen...

For example, when my gfriend almost died because of her tumor around the heart (which we didnt know about at that time) snapped and she almost died (5% chance of survival on the fist day) I would have 100% killed myself on full dose because of that deep depression and "shes gonna die" feeling (and I know my ways to get back on track, but even I as an experienced psychonaut/trip guide wouldnt risk it in this situation), but microdosing was perfect and it got me in the ideal state of mind... But thats quite logical..

Right now I feel that perfect/proper use of hallucinogens (for me) is :

-"Microdosing for the win. (1 week microdosing, then 3weeks nothing.. rinse and repeat)"
or/and
-"Once a year Im doing proper shrooming session (or lsd), just to get "in sync with my inner self" (at least thats how I call it ;) )... "

and obvious advices ;)
-If your tripping for the first time (or under the tenth time) always get some experienced psychonaut with You. NEVER do that alone, its just a stupid unnecessary risk...
-never do full trip dose when depressed or having some schizophrenia, etc. issues... Microdose only.
-always remember, when things go south, swallow vitamin B3 + C and Youll feel better in 10-15 minutes. works like a charm... (or puke and then drink at least half litre of milk, similar effect, but you need to puke first so your stomach is working faster.)
-treat psychedelics with enough respect
-MAIN ADVICE (mostly used when doing shrooms/lsd alone, but applicable everytime) : always remember to repeat to yourself : !!Its not real, its not reality. Its only in my head!! (Edit: but not like hysterically like it sounds to me when Im reading it back :-D just smile, believe that its not real and take a deep calm breath ;-) ) when You start to experience something You dont like... never forget that or you will startle yourself... . this will get you from most of the issues easily and it should be first thing to remember(I know that sometimes its hard for a new user, but it saved me countless times ...)
 
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