Mephisto Genetics Mephisto LED vs HPS Sour Crack AF-SOG!
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Just finished whole thread.....
I believe this test is very accurate.
Many growers that are familiar with hps/mh looking to leds as an upgrade will most likely get the same results as the mephisto team.
Learning curve is a factor but thread s like this will help educate people like me who are interested on leds but are comfortable with hids.
I applaud you Mitch and the whole mephisto team.
Now if we send gbd an hps to compare with his dialed in led kit, I'm sure the opposite of this thread would happen. I.e. the leds out performing the hids.
I like the hypothesis that the leds could be summer lights while the hps are winter lights.
Loads of great info.
Cheers mates!
I believe this test is very accurate.
Many growers that are familiar with hps/mh looking to leds as an upgrade will most likely get the same results as the mephisto team.
Learning curve is a factor but thread s like this will help educate people like me who are interested on leds but are comfortable with hids.
I applaud you Mitch and the whole mephisto team.
Now if we send gbd an hps to compare with his dialed in led kit, I'm sure the opposite of this thread would happen. I.e. the leds out performing the hids.
I like the hypothesis that the leds could be summer lights while the hps are winter lights.
Loads of great info.
Cheers mates!
mephisto
AFN Authorized Vendor
yes it's been a learning curve and as we know with our beloved autos there's less margin for error than with photoperiods where you have some time to work around problems.
but importantly also, it showed us our original recipe for an afsog under hps works better than with the new setup.
if all goes to plan, round 2 will commence at the beginning of May, and by that time ambient temperatures should be much higher carrying through to July where daily it's around 30 degrees, so it should be a better test-bed for using leds.
also we are hoping to have a couple of extra leds in there
cheers mitch
We could surmise that four of these leds equalling 280 watts would easily compare with 600 watts of hps and possibly out yield it.
This has me very intrigued in leds. The only drawback for these fixtures is the price.
I'm not trying to hijack, but if everyone bears with me after a few dabs, I like to do some math to justify me(anyone else) that uses hps , getting a rad setup like aforementioned...I may have an extra 4x4 tent just lying around in need of leds... who knows...any who...
Several dabs later....
Now if my calculations are not correct remember I'm technically intoxicated here, nature of the beast....
The power savings using 280w of leds compared to a 600w (630w) hps is equal to .35kw/hr. Or 350 watts per hour if you will.
My locality charges around $0.15 kw/hr. At .35kw/hr savings that equals $1.26/day & $459.90 per year of power saved.
These fixtures are about $1000 USD correct?
Now remember my scenario had four of them. Why not... We're not all led masters the first go, I'd like success if I'm going for it.
That power savings works out to 8.7 years later I will break even on the initial investment on the fixtures. (4.35 years if I was tang )
That seems like a long time just to break even....
Keep in mind this isn't bashing leds at all, it's pretty amazing that 280w or less can compete with 600w.
You have my attention. Now so do leds...
All that aside if I can turn a 350g/m2 strain into a 450g/m2 strain from switching to leds , I would get the return on investment a lot sooner than in the 8 odd years of just power savings.
At that point I'm really sold.
To me the idea of Just dropping four to five large on a possibility is pretty hard to do.
Again I applaud your team and everyone else hear at afn blazing new grounds with each day.
Edit.
I think my math may have been off somewhere I have a feeling...
This has me very intrigued in leds. The only drawback for these fixtures is the price.
I'm not trying to hijack, but if everyone bears with me after a few dabs, I like to do some math to justify me(anyone else) that uses hps , getting a rad setup like aforementioned...I may have an extra 4x4 tent just lying around in need of leds... who knows...any who...
Several dabs later....
Now if my calculations are not correct remember I'm technically intoxicated here, nature of the beast....
The power savings using 280w of leds compared to a 600w (630w) hps is equal to .35kw/hr. Or 350 watts per hour if you will.
My locality charges around $0.15 kw/hr. At .35kw/hr savings that equals $1.26/day & $459.90 per year of power saved.
These fixtures are about $1000 USD correct?
Now remember my scenario had four of them. Why not... We're not all led masters the first go, I'd like success if I'm going for it.
That power savings works out to 8.7 years later I will break even on the initial investment on the fixtures. (4.35 years if I was tang )
That seems like a long time just to break even....
Keep in mind this isn't bashing leds at all, it's pretty amazing that 280w or less can compete with 600w.
You have my attention. Now so do leds...
All that aside if I can turn a 350g/m2 strain into a 450g/m2 strain from switching to leds , I would get the return on investment a lot sooner than in the 8 odd years of just power savings.
At that point I'm really sold.
To me the idea of Just dropping four to five large on a possibility is pretty hard to do.
Again I applaud your team and everyone else hear at afn blazing new grounds with each day.
Edit.
I think my math may have been off somewhere I have a feeling...
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~ $530 with delivery in Еurope
Wow that's a big difference. Does that include us delivery?
I still love that at worse case scenario the light will cover a 2x2 area only using 70w , that's pretty remarkable.
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