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@Mañ'O'Green how many KW does your solar panels produce? I hope you feel better soon bud. Saw your post
Design is 6.78 Kwh reality is closer to 5.9 Kwh

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Holy shit! Ms. MOG was going to buy some more of the Gluten Free Cup4Cup flour when she read the ingredients - Shit, shit shit shit no wonder I am sick. It makes excellent pie crust.

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My Cherry Blueberry Pie is Killing me slowly.

I am allergic to anything from a cow!


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Third thing on the list is milk from a cow! How did I miss that..............
 
Really? Can you point me to the source for that cost and replacement schedule? My seat of the pants arithmetic suggests that if those figures are accurate, the electric F150 may not be as attractive as I figured. I'd be surprised if an electric F150 could save $40k in fuel in three years even if prices stay at current Canadian levels of ~~$2/l.

I guess we will see what happens with the electric F150. I know which way Ford is betting. They have so many reservations already that they are increasing production capacity from 80,000 per year to 150,000 per year ( Ford Making More F-150 Lightning Electric Pickup Trucks to Meet Demand (motortrend.com) :biggrin:

The Toyota Prius completely took over the taxi industry in large Canadian centers in the space of a couple years. Nothing with four wheels could compete even at gas prices a decade ago. Good luck finding a non-hybrid taxi in Vancouver B.C. nowadays. I would not be surprised to see hybrid taxis killed by full electric before long. I expect that the F150 will do a similar upset in compatible commercial operations over the next several years. I will be watching with great interest.
I'm just making a guess since there's no actual info on these yet. But gotta assume a work pickup truck is gonna take quite a bit more juice and abuse then a personal car. Average price of a Tesla battery replacement is about 13k per battery... But not really any others to compare to right now. All electric vehicle batteries sold on the US are warrantied for 100k miles but only for complete failure, meaning if you charge it overnight and it only gets 50 miles on that charge, even when it's 2 years old, nothing is covered. Commercial vehicles usually carry more miles and much more wear then personal vehicles. Combined with it being a 1st generation ford electric, I'd expect plenty of issues. I totally agree electric work trucks are a big part of the future, but I'd wait until at least the 2nd or 3rd gen for them to iron out some issues that won't get laid on the buyer. We specifically didn't buy a Ford Mach-E for the wife just due to the costs of the unknown. Super fun car to drive though
 
So... do I do the garden area with the same edger stones as out front for the sake of continuity, or do I do landscape timber/wood of some sort, or cinderblocks? Dug out part of where the drainage will be going back there, at least the part in the garden area which will be covered with pea gravel as a walkway around the AC unit and to the utility box stuff. Once the rest of the crap gets hauled away Tuesday I'll be able to dig the rest of the drainage for the dogs' area as well. Going to do drainage rock under the fence with cinderblocks over it along the fence line to keep them for trying to dig under any more than they already have. Still debating what exactly to do for ground cover back there, was going to do pea gravel over all of it but I could also do some sort of native creeping groundcover instead, and keep the pea gravel strictly for walkways. Idk, I'll figure it out I'm just tired now lol.
 
You're gonna need like half an acre of land to spread all that out :crying: But I'm pretty sure you'll figure it out and I can't wait to see how you do it :d5:
They're basically all going to be trained to a trellis besides the peppers and sweet potatoes, so it should work out! I do have a tendency to go overboard (hah!) but I pretty much always find a way to make it work! Gonna have to nestle some canna plants in there too :rofl:
 
Let me break this one apart a little bit. Having been fully electric for almost 10 years now and tried out a couple different vehicles I've hit the snags and range anxiety head on.

I hear a lot of people say that the vehicle range on one charge, and the amount of time it takes to recharge are two common reasons why they don't like them.

Range is basically a non-issue any more. People just don't like change. For some people, a full electric probably will not work and thats ok. Charge time? Yes. A very real issue. My first electric car just plugged into the wall. Small battery and it could trickle charge overnight. Getting a rapid charger elimnates that quickly but a charge unit is $500-1000 and then you need an electrician to run a large amp circuit to mount it to. Literally a dryer plug. Newer cars with large multi-hundred mile packs, they will basically require a rapid charger and if you run it down to say 5% battery could take a full day to recharge. But, you just get used to plugging your car in when you get home just like your phone. Those huge packs should last several days for most people.

Charging at work is becoming more available and shoot, the couple times I didn't have enough to get around? Find a charger near a bar and stop off for a break. 15min is enough time on the fast charge to add significant miles.

... I understand they are expensive, but how is the cost comparison to a gas engine? Is it worth owning an electric car, or perhaps even a hybrid?

I would not push anyone to trade in a reliable vehicle for a new electric. However, anyone looking for a new car should seriously consider an electric option. I mean a new Honda Accord or Toyota Camry pushes $40k pretty easy these days. The new Nissan Leaf has a 200 mile range for $35k. It's just an idea. My first electric car was a 2013 Leaf, for $35k, and it only got 75 miles on that tiny old pack. There were maybe 3 times I needed to go further and just rented a car for the day. Quite the improvement on just that model from gen 1 @75miles of range to gen2 with 200+ for the same price.

I wish they had continued with cars like the Chevy Volt. It was electric for 30 or 40 miles and then switched to the gas engine. No range issues, just plain old gas engine when you need it. If you were only short trips, all electric. I know loads of people were in the high 800 to 1000 miles without needing to fill up. A really nice compromise



Until you're completely shut down and need $40k in batteries. Every 3 years

Early gen1 cars? Yes. The new cars? Not so much. There are finally plenty of old Teslas running around and the SOH, state of health, on their batteries is still above 80% after 10+ years and several hundred thousand miles of driving. There was a lot of bad battery chemistry early on. Most of that is significantly better now. I was quite surprised at how well Tesla did from the get go. PS I cannot stand Elon, however, I am glad that he is petty and whiny. If anyone makes a faster electric car than his, he doubles down on "whiny brat" mode and makes the next Tesla Model faster again. That I can appreciate.

You also have to remember that maintenance on an electric car is basically 0. No oil changes, no filter changes, belts, spark plugs, etc. Far fewer moving parts. It's very possible that even on a work/industrial use level that battery swap will even out with general maintenance. I do think there will still be times where a good old fashioned gas engine is going to be the answer.

Ok, I think I wrote enough of a book. Hah! Sorry. Just something I like to talk about and I haven't got much social contact re-established yet so you all get to hear me prattle on. Thanks for listening to this old man yell at a cloud.
 
I could chime in, but on second thought I'll just keep it on my side on the screen...
 
I could chime in, but on second thought I'll just keep it on my side on the screen...

Nah friend, I like a dissenting opinion. You won't hurt my feelings. I know there are significant drawbacks to the E-cars. Even if you just think they're plain ugly. Which, eh, yes I think most are. Oogly like catfish.
 
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