I know I may have come across a little harsh earlier but this is because I love to help people and I hate to see people get screwed. I was helped earlier in growing from someone on another forum and to this day I am still so great full. My message is not that you need to spend tons of money to grow good pot, it's absolutely the opposite. My favorite are Cree cobs just based on appearance, cost, efficiency, and performance. I went with Amare technologies but there are dozens of companies like tasty led, go green led, Area 51 that offer smaller and smaller lights for much less money then any of the commercial led companies and they out perform most. I recommend this to people who want more or want to start out going balls deep.