New Grower Hope She's Gentle. It's My First Time! - Think Different

[ThaGreenBandit]

Day 7
Soil PH: 6.6
Height: 2"
Temp Range: 82.8° - 95.2°
Humidity Range: 29% - 53%
Not sure if she grew any over night, or if she's looking taller because I propped her up a bit straighter with some soil. She seems to be healthy, and it appears that another set of leaves coming out. After running to the store for some sticky strips, I opened up the cabinet to vacuum it out before hanging the strip, and, low and behold, guess who I catch slipping? That pesky fricking gnat, chillin' on the wall, and before it could zip outta there, I vacuumed the little bastard up. Done deal. Hung up the strip just in case, though. Other than that, it like all quiet on the western front. Y'all come back now, ya hear? [emoji111]

 

[Trapper]

Cruisin'

Little hot though

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

Cruisin'

Little hot though

Yeah, I'm really starting to get concerned about the temps, but not sure what I can do. If you got any suggestions as to how I can cut the heat back, please, clue me in!

 

[Trapper]

Only thing I can think of is a poor man's swamp cooler...big bucket of Ice water behind a fan....not efficient and a pain in the ass....all other solutions are expensive.

 

[Joedirt]

indoors!

 

[JAYAR]

Hey bud nice setup looks inconspicuous lol I may be able to help with the high temps as I used to battle those issues when I ran a 600w HID. It's your extraction. You're sucking the air out from the grow room through the carbon filter and back out to the ambient atmosphere. Then it's being sucked back in through your intake (do you have an intake? couldnt tell from the pics) so basically you're recirculating hot air back and forth.

You need your carbon filter inside the tent, then you want the inline fan to suck air through it and then exhaust it into the wall or ceiling.

Right now you have it set up like this I think:
Ducting in the grow room---->inline fan pushing air out to----->the carbon filter

You want it like this:
carbon filter----> ducting that leads out-----> inline fan that pulls air through the filter-----> ducting that hooks up to the wall or ceiling.

^^ This way the hot air that is extracted does not recirculate back through your intake. Sorry bro I suck at explaining lol.

 

[Trapper]

If that's the solve, it's going to help immensely.

I did notice that your scrubber is outside the cab and that you are effectively using the fan to pull air out of the cab and PUSH it through the filter and while that approach will work, it's not optimal...In THIS case you're dealing with high temps to begin with...so the hot air you are removing from the top of the enclosure is just getting reintroduced right away....if you could get the scrubber filter in the cab and draw air through it, then expel the air somewhere other than right where it will get re-introduced, I bet that would drop the temp considerably.

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indoors!

It is indoors....

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

Hey bud nice setup looks inconspicuous lol I may be able to help with the high temps as I used to battle those issues when I ran a 600w HID. It's your extraction. You're sucking the air out from the grow room through the carbon filter and back out to the ambient atmosphere. Then it's being sucked back in through your intake (do you have an intake? couldnt tell from the pics) so basically you're recirculating hot air back and forth.

You need your carbon filter inside the tent, then you want the inline fan to suck air through it and then exhaust it into the wall or ceiling.

Right now you have it set up like this I think:
Ducting in the grow room---->inline fan pushing air out to----->the carbon filter

You want it like this:
carbon filter----> ducting that leads out-----> inline fan that pulls air through the filter-----> ducting that hooks up to the wall or ceiling.

^^ This way the hot air that is extracted does not recirculate back through your intake. Sorry bro I suck at explaining lol.

Welcome to my grow, Jayar, and thank you very much for stopping through with some helpful advice! I have no intake, as I was attempting to make a system that was as close to being a closed system as possible so I could get maximum effectiveness out of the boost bucket. I originally planned on placing the fan and filter inside the cabinet, but it is only 22" deep, so I wasn't sure how I was going to fit the fan,filter, and lights up in there. I also had to keep in mind that since I live in an apartment (just started the process of house hunting so this won't be an issue for too much longer, hopefully), I couldn't cut any holes in the closet walls to run ducting to other rooms so the hot air could be totally removed from the immediate area. Since last week, I actually removed the cabinet from my closet, and placed it out in the open, in my room, in an effort to control the temps a bit more. I am, at this moment trying to figure out a way I can stuff the filter and fan back inside the cabinet without them getting in the way of the light. I was also thinking of saying screw it, and cutting a hole in the side so I could draw in some cool air with a PC fan. Yeah, I definitely won't be in the running for stealth grow of the year! "oh that thing on top? Errr... it's a diy award I won at home depot. Yeah, that's it!"

If that's the solve, it's going to help immensely.

I did notice that your scrubber is outside the cab and that you are effectively using the fan to pull air out of the cab and PUSH it through the filter and while that approach will work, it's not optimal.. IN THIS case you're dealing with high temps to begin with...so the hot air you are removing from the top of the enclosure is just getting reintroduced right away....if you could get the scrubber filter in the cab and draw air through it, then expel the air somewhere other than right where it will get re-introduced, I bet that would drop the temp considerably.

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It is indoors....

Thanks, as always, for the helpful info, Trap. You and Jayar really have me brainstorming as to how I can get things switched around, and get the exhaust crammed inside of the cab. So, to get optimal usage of the inline fan, I should suck the air into the filter instead of blowing it out of the filter like I currently am?

 

[medi]

Without intake you aren't getting enough air circulation which will open you up to mold and mildew among other things. Trust me when I tell you it can go from perfect to omgwtf really fast. You could always get a booster fan for the intake just make sure you do it as low in your cab as possible so it's drawing the coldest air in the exterior room that is available. Good luck!

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

A good PC fan should do the trick, right? At Best Buy looking for a solution to the problem right now.