Mephisto Genetics First run LOS, featuring Ripley's, Fugue, and Creme Stomper

Here are some plants grown the wrong way. Been flushing for a week.

Ghost Toof

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White Crack

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Thank you so much for the recognition .... do appreciate that and you too @slowandeasy - helps when you get those comments ..... I am here at AFN for the knowledge but then comes the acknowledgements and the sharing of info, helping others and those too are good feelings ....

Karanja is hot and source of NPK, especially Nitro ..... recommended soil bake for minimum 10 days but longer is better ....

I feed Karanja to my worms and they turn out castings that are rich - Karanja will add weight / size / population when used in a worm bin ..... I cannot stress this point enough ....

You can buy all the ingredients needed for a LOS Grow and you’ll do great but if you really want the finest you’ll do as I’ve started to do and as @Organic Sinse has been doing for years and that is build fine compost bins .... Sinse has the art and science of building a worm bin that produces compost / castings that are directed to each growth cycle phase - she’s a teenager, ok she wants this so she gets Worm Bin [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG] castings ....

I hope to get to Sensi level, myself I’m using a lot of purchased ingredients and im working on my own - In this my first LOS grow I have my worms and castings .....

Myself what I bring is passion and desire to grow ANYTHING, I’m an organic guy who has always treated the soil with respect but never really connected LOS and growing, I thought until November of last year - growing organic meant FFOF and bottles of fish this and guano that - liquid seaweed - kelp - bottles full of promises / magic stuff, I thought that was Organics and IT AIN’T but as I said I love to dig outside in the dirt and always composted, etc sompassion and desire is there ......,I simply want the best, don’t think you’ll get much debate on quality ....

When I see your buds / yields or @slowandeasy and others using coco or full blown hydro with autopots or some of the crazy DWC grows I think wow but then I go back to my Street Dealer and he sold me LOS Weed and how much better it was and the taste and I think, yea I want that, it was so Flippin sweet, cost a little more but worth it, and this other must be hydro grow weed and then it struck me ..... what the flip, wonder how much pesticide I’ve smoked, Monsanto oh no .... that was turning point, I had to grow my own organic and thought FFOF but Dealer LOS stuck in head ..... then cam AFN, I joined and got into the organic thread and member recommended I listen to KIS Podcast and Coots - I did and I learned so much from listening to Coot himself and I associated with him, I’m a West Coast 1960-1970 Baby Boomer Era .... I smoked before I grew and my garden career started when wife ask me to plant flowers in 1977, I was hooked on gardening and Mother Earth News and Organics ..... thru the years I practice Ruth Stout https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Stout methods of Organics and here we are today, learning more about Karanja and the like .....

Back to Karanja, you can top dress with but limited amounts, myself I have not, @Organic Sinse may have more input on that - for top dress I use Gro-Kashi, Craft Blend and BuildaBud Compost from BuildaSoil, some Malibu Compost, kelp, my worm bin compost and worms - multiple dressings of that - it is so good to put living compost into your pot bro, killer I’m telling ya .....

Karanja helps aid in pest prevention and when applied in conjunction with Neem it really kicks up the value ..... Karanja will make your worms, squirm, they Flippin love it, they will grow bigger and reproduce faster ..... their castings will be rich in nutrients, nutrients your plant will take up and use when they want it ..... Karanja, Neem, Barley, Kelp, Alfalfa are all great foods for the worm, in return castings produced will be far superior to most commercially available ....

On soil it is important to have soil at Field Capacity BEFORE you transplant .... When I transplant I take an empty transplant container and mold soil around ..... oh that reminds me, add micozzie root stuff to soil when you put into final pot before transplant ....

Real good sources of fertilizer is feed stores, I’ve gotten 50 lb. bag of organic kelp, alfalfa meal and pellets plus alfalfa, straw, oyster shells, grains and cover crops seeds, tea seeds and lots of other goodies such as big drain pans for pots, real McCoy corn brooms to sweep grow area $5.69 btw made in USA and lots of good stuff if you haven’t visited your local feed store, it’s worth a visit .....

Start slow .... rather see you produce a killer plant and the very best you can, success breeds success .... maybe you’ll win over @slowandeasy - hehe .....

Wishing you nothing but the BEST of Grows!

Peace,
OB

Please Note: In pics it shows transplant at normal soil level, MISTAKE Don’t Do ....

Rather have soil higher in the middle and allow for mulch and top dressings to follow .... Another goof was top dressing too close when young so a mound of soil above main soil line and amend in that area for starters eliminates that issue ..... Mound soil almost to top of pot, top dressings and mulch will bring up and all important feeder roots will grow into mulch ...... Note: CONTRARY to popular belief marijuana DOES NOT NEED A TAP ROOT, in fact, marijuana grows better in a wider flatter pot than a taller skinny pot and No Tap Root required ..... Note on the transplant and all the roots on that baby, do you see a tap root? I’m using rootmaker pot, btw which prunes the roots right out of the gate, that tap roots that sprouted was pruned ......

If you have a ten gallon pot, maybe use and fill with gallon or so of drainage - 22-26 quarts of soil and leave rest for top dressings and mulch ..... next grow thinking 10 gallons or 20 gallon and two plants, let them compete for roots space!
 

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Mob, os you guys have made this thread so cut through the bs informative. Great thread here

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Karanja is hot and source of NPK, especially Nitro ..... recommended soil bake for minimum 10 days but longer is better ....

I feed Karanja to my worms and they turn out castings that are rich - Karanja will add weight / size / population when used in a worm bin ..... I cannot stress this point enough ....

You can buy all the ingredients needed for a LOS Grow and you’ll do great but if you really want the finest you’ll do as I’ve started to do and as @Organic Sinse has been doing for years and that is build fine compost bins .... Sinse has the art and science of building a worm bin that produces compost / castings that are directed to each growth cycle phase - she’s a teenager, ok she wants this so she gets Worm Bin [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG] castings ....

I hope to get to Sensi level, myself I’m using a lot of purchased ingredients and im working on my own - In this my first LOS grow I have my worms and castings .....

Myself what I bring is passion and desire to grow ANYTHING, I’m an organic guy who has always treated the soil with respect but never really connected LOS and growing, I thought until November of last year - growing organic meant FFOF and bottles of fish this and guano that - liquid seaweed - kelp - bottles full of promises / magic stuff, I thought that was Organics and IT AIN’T but as I said I love to dig outside in the dirt and always composted, etc sompassion and desire is there ......,I simply want the best, don’t think you’ll get much debate on quality ....

When I see your buds / yields or @slowandeasy and others using coco or full blown hydro with autopots or some of the crazy DWC grows I think wow but then I go back to my Street Dealer and he sold me LOS Weed and how much better it was and the taste and I think, yea I want that, it was so Flippin sweet, cost a little more but worth it, and this other must be hydro grow weed and then it struck me ..... what the flip, wonder how much pesticide I’ve smoked, Monsanto oh no .... that was turning point, I had to grow my own organic and thought FFOF but Dealer LOS stuck in head ..... then cam AFN, I joined and got into the organic thread and member recommended I listen to KIS Podcast and Coots - I did and I learned so much from listening to Coot himself and I associated with him, I’m a West Coast 1960-1970 Baby Boomer Era .... I smoked before I grew and my garden career started when wife ask me to plant flowers in 1977, I was hooked on gardening and Mother Earth News and Organics ..... thru the years I practice Ruth Stout https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Stout methods of Organics and here we are today, learning more about Karanja and the like .....

Back to Karanja, you can top dress with but limited amounts, myself I have not, @Organic Sinse may have more input on that - for top dress I use Gro-Kashi, Craft Blend and BuildaBud Compost from BuildaSoil, some Malibu Compost, kelp, my worm bin compost and worms - multiple dressings of that - it is so good to put living compost into your pot bro, killer I’m telling ya .....

Karanja helps aid in pest prevention and when applied in conjunction with Neem it really kicks up the value ..... Karanja will make your worms, squirm, they Flippin love it, they will grow bigger and reproduce faster ..... their castings will be rich in nutrients, nutrients your plant will take up and use when they want it ..... Karanja, Neem, Barley, Kelp, Alfalfa are all great foods for the worm, in return castings produced will be far superior to most commercially available ....

On soil it is important to have soil at Field Capacity BEFORE you transplant .... When I transplant I take an empty transplant container and mold soil around ..... oh that reminds me, add micozzie root stuff to soil when you put into final pot before transplant ....

Real good sources of fertilizer is feed stores, I’ve gotten 50 lb. bag of organic kelp, alfalfa meal and pellets plus alfalfa, straw, oyster shells, grains and cover crops seeds, tea seeds and lots of other goodies such as big drain pans for pots, real McCoy corn brooms to sweep grow area $5.69 btw made in USA and lots of good stuff if you haven’t visited your local feed store, it’s worth a visit .....

Start slow .... rather see you produce a killer plant and the very best you can, success breeds success .... maybe you’ll win over @slowandeasy - hehe .....

Wishing you nothing but the BEST of Grows!

Peace,
OB

Please Note: In pics it shows transplant at normal soil level, MISTAKE Don’t Do ....

Rather have soil higher in the middle and allow for mulch and top dressings to follow .... Another goof was top dressing too close when young so a mound of soil above main soil line and amend in that area for starters eliminates that issue ..... Mound soil almost to top of pot, top dressings and mulch will bring up and all important feeder roots will grow into mulch ...... Note: CONTRARY to popular belief marijuana DOES NOT NEED A TAP ROOT, in fact, marijuana grows better in a wider flatter pot than a taller skinny pot and nomtap required ..... Note on the transplant and all the roots on that baby, do you see a tap root? I’m using rootmaker pot, btw which prunes the roots right out of the gate, that tap roots that sprouted was pruned.
You won't convert me, but you guys do an excellent job. I am impressed with the results, but it is not for me. Just like DWC. I used to do DWC, but it's not for me. If I lived at my childhood home, I most certainly would give LOS a try.
 
Here are some plants grown the wrong way. Been flushing for a week.

Ghost Toof

wQwWmdG.jpg


CDDZaEz.jpg


White Crack

1OTrrOO.jpg


lIPEPnv.jpg

Some more nice work .... What ya thinking on grams / watt on those girls?

You’re working in a 8x8 ya?
 
You won't convert me, but you guys do an excellent job. I am impressed with the results, but it is not for me. Just like DWC. I used to do DWC, but it's not for me. If I lived at my childhood home, I most certainly would give LOS a try.

You never fail until you quit trying!
 
You never fail until you quit trying!
I never started trying LOS, but my weak attempt at "Organics" was nothing spectacular yield wise. I knew it was not going to yield well and truly not Organic. You guys have a different approach. We can't expect to feed the plants with Organics and get Chemical results. Building the soil and keeping the living parts moving below the surface is the right way. I am sure if I had a different situation I would give it a go. I will leave this to you guys, and sit back and watch/learn. Maybe someday we will move and I could do this. Until then, you guys show me how you pull this off with the results you get. I like the planning and preparing you guys do, everything has it's purpose. Lots of good stuff going on, just not for me. I would enjoy moving one day and doing outdoor grows for fun. My old house would be perfect.
 
Here are some plants grown the wrong way. Been flushing for a week.

Ghost Toof

wQwWmdG.jpg


CDDZaEz.jpg


White Crack

1OTrrOO.jpg


lIPEPnv.jpg
What size pot did you use on these? My "Organic" attempts were for surely were effected by small pot. Right off the bat, Organics and small pots don't balance each other out like Coco and nutes. Plants get rootbounding effects and run out of Steam in flower using small pots does not allow for the plants to have enough food for the full grow. You wind up playing "catch up" which never works like Nutes do. I am excited to watch your LOS grow. I know you will do a great job, but I won't be used to seeing your plants in big ass pots! Good luck
 
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What size pot did you use on these? My "Organic" attempts were for surely were effected by small pot. Right off the bat, Organics and small pots don't balance each other out like Coco and nutes. Plants get rootbounding effects and run out of Steam in flower using small pots does not allow for the plants to have enough food for the full grow. You wind up playing "catch up" which never works like Nutes do. I am excited to watch your LOS grow. I know you will do a great job, but I won't be used to seeing your plants in big ass pots! Good luck

Pot Size is oh so important in LOS Grow ..... In fact the Seven Gallon Pots are being taxed and plants that take over 76-80ish days ..... For a normal photo period type pots size anything less than 40 dry quarts is NOT recommended - so a 15 gallon will hold 60 quarts but you only use 40 quarts so 15 gallon for photos minimum .....

Autos are quicker so I thought I’d try a seven gallon but in retrospect 10 gallon would be smarter, thus advised @Roasty McToasty, even though he has seven gallons waiting ....

Breaking Free, aka Sam’s Crack is NOT in a 7 Gallon, her container holds 60 dry quarts and she has about 54 dry quarts or 13.5 gallons of soil in a 15 gallon sip container ... On top of soil is mulch, Gro-Kashi, Craft Blend and Kelp top dressed and straw and a plastic cover over everything, thus bugs all but eliminated with plastic mulch ..... as I continued to Top Dress it buildups and over time over the top of container, plastic cover holds it all in place ..... probably have 65 dry quarts of soil - 54 plus another 11 quarts of top dressings over the grow .....

Don’t want anyone to get wrong impression but Sam was grown with a goal in mind and that was to win a Battle and have something I could be proud off and I wanted the best so I put a lot of thought and study into, including over 80 hours of podcasts and trial and error from my first, think this is Organics FFOF Grow, we know how those turn out .....

I also like helping folks too, so AFN fits my lifestyle, retired 42 yrs SheetMetal .... Personality demands I stay busy ...... @Roasty McToasty has obvious talent and he wants to try LOS, so me help and I will learn from Roasty and you too slow, I always look forward to your comments :pass:

Peace!

Thanks @Delta9Heavy :cheers:
 
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